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corpuscollossus posted:Should've farmed Cathorla off to an eastern european side and got him back. He's a bargain at twice that price. Wegner thought "Well I already have Ramsey and Ozil no need for Fabregas" What a loving mistake..
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Got Sanchez instead! *hoists up shorts*
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NNick posted:Wegner thought "Well I already have Ramsey and Ozil no need for Fabregas" Remember posters saying he shouldn't buy Fabregas because we already had Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere, Rosicky, Flamini, and Arteta for three midfield spots. No way could Fabregas break into that midfield. Only Ramsey on form would keep him out, smdh
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RVProfootballer posted:Remember posters saying he shouldn't buy Fabregas because we already had Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere, Rosicky, Flamini, and Arteta for three midfield spots. No way could Fabregas break into that midfield. Only Ramsey on form would keep him out, smdh Eh it's more that buying cesc would have required playing Ozil or Ramsey out of position, and would be a weird place to spend a bunch of money. If no one else comes in though, then yeah not buying Fabregas will turn out to be a pretty fake and gay decision.
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Not that you're wrong but it's been one loving game, you guys do know he's been playing for Barcelona for the past few years right? They're pretty good too
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Cesc "Epogen" Fabregas
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People laughed when i put schurrle in the fully sick xi but he has only gone and won the world cup since. What a loving player.
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Where can I watch video highlights of matches? Not on the official PL premier league site, not on NBC sports.
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blue footed boobie posted:Eh it's more that buying cesc would have required playing Ozil or Ramsey out of position, and would be a weird place to spend a bunch of money. If no one else comes in though, then yeah not buying Fabregas will turn out to be a pretty fake and gay decision. First sentence is correct, the squad is not crying out for a Fabregas type of player anymore, not when Ramsey and Ozil are there. The second sentence is not correct unless you think Fabregas is a feasible option for the more defensive minded midfield role, in which case lol. If there's anyone from that Chelsea midfield I could magically sign for Arsenal its Matic, not Fabregas.
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Tetrix posted:Where can I watch video highlights of matches? Not on the official PL premier league site, not on NBC sports. This usually has just the goals: http://www.goalsarena.org/
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Steve Evets posted:First sentence is correct, the squad is not crying out for a Fabregas type of player anymore, not when Ramsey and Ozil are there. The second sentence is not correct unless you think Fabregas is a feasible option for the more defensive minded midfield role, in which case lol. If there's anyone from that Chelsea midfield I could magically sign for Arsenal its Matic, not Fabregas. Neither Ramsey nor Özil will play every game, even assuming neither gets injured. Fabregas is an Özil-type buy; he was available, not absurdly overpriced, and would have improved the starting squad and depth massively. It's all fantasy because I guess he went to Chelsea to win trophies and Arsenal probably had as good a chance of signing him as United, but it would have been sick as hell to have him back.
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wenger didn't sign Fabregas because it would have hindered jack wilshere's progress and that owns
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arteta and rosicky will be well out of it within a year tbh and could easily have been shipped out for a few pounds to make space. he's a retard
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Steve Evets posted:First sentence is correct, the squad is not crying out for a Fabregas type of player anymore, not when Ramsey and Ozil are there. The second sentence is not correct unless you think Fabregas is a feasible option for the more defensive minded midfield role, in which case lol. If there's anyone from that Chelsea midfield I could magically sign for Arsenal its Matic, not Fabregas. Lol you people are so delusional it owns
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lmaoboy1998 posted:wenger didn't sign Fabregas because it would have hindered jack wilshere's progress and that owns What progress? He's been poo poo every time I've seen him for the last 2 years.
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Haggis Heed posted:What progress? He's been poo poo every time I've seen him for the last 2 years. And that owns.
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lmaoboy1998 posted:arteta and rosicky will be well out of it within a year tbh and could easily have been shipped out for a few pounds to make space. he's a retard This!!!!!!!!
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He's still decent but he's 33 ffs. Arteta is way past it though. Anyway, I don't think placating either of them was the reason Wenger decided not to bring Cesc back.
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African AIDS cum posted:Lol you people are so delusional it owns Agreed, thinking that a midfield trio of Fabregas Ramsey and Ozil will work or that Wenger would actually leave one of them on the bench is deluded.
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Wengy posted:He's still decent but he's 33 ffs. Arteta is way past it though. Anyway, I don't think placating either of them was the reason Wenger decided not to bring Cesc back. Any reasonable rumors about his wages? I'd guess Wenger was priced out, even if he'd tried to get him back.
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Steve Evets posted:Agreed, thinking that a midfield trio of Fabregas Ramsey and Ozil will work or that Wenger would actually leave one of them on the bench is deluded. It would work and it would be the sickest midfield in world football. But even if it didn't Fabregas has played in the Arteta role before and done reasonably well. and one of Ozil and Ramsey will likely be tired injured at any one time so it's not like he'd never get games there either. in addition to all this, NOT getting him gives a rival a huge bargain for a sort of player they didn't have. overall the man's a big time dipshit
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RVProfootballer posted:Any reasonable rumors about his wages? I'd guess Wenger was priced out, even if he'd tried to get him back. Guess you don't know that Wenger outright turned him down. lmaoboy1998 posted:It would work and it would be the sickest midfield in world football. But even if it didn't Fabregas has played in the Arteta role before and done reasonably well. and one of Ozil and Ramsey will likely be tired injured at any one time so it's not like he'd never get games there either. in addition to all this, NOT getting him gives a rival a huge bargain for a sort of player they didn't have. overall the man's a big time dipshit Every half decent team in the league would be rubbing their hands together at the prospects of facing a midfield with absolutely 0 defensive ability. And it would make sitting deep with 10 men behind the ball and watching Arsenal pass themselves to death and counter the easiest thing ever. I'm deluded yet people suggesting that one of Ozil Ramsey or Fabregas should restrict their play by sitting deep and being responsible for tough tackling in midfield while at the same time employing peak tiki taka is sound reasoning. Steve Evets fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Aug 19, 2014 |
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lmaoboy1998 posted:It would work and it would be the sickest midfield in world football. But even if it didn't Fabregas has played in the Arteta role before and done reasonably well. and one of Ozil and Ramsey will likely be tired injured at any one time so it's not like he'd never get games there either. in addition to all this, NOT getting him gives a rival a huge bargain for a sort of player they didn't have. overall the man's a big time dipshit Yeah, all of this basically. Fabregas wasn't a necessity but he would have done us wonders.
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RVProfootballer posted:Any reasonable rumors about his wages? I'd guess Wenger was priced out, even if he'd tried to get him back. He probably thought Cesc was going to hinder Wilshere's development lol
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Steve Evets posted:Guess you don't know that Wenger outright turned him down. The thing is Chelsea played him in that 'restricted' role yesterday and he still got a tasty assist. The man owns. I'll make this even simpler: Wilshere, Cazorla, Rosicky and Arteta played over 100 games between them for Arsenal last year and Cesc Fabregas is better in their position than every single one of them.
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Most of those players picked up a lot of games on the wing, where Cesc isn't really very good. And you soundly really want cesc to play instead of Arteta. Anyway, what would have happened if Cesc had signed is that Cesc would take Ramsey's spot and Ramsey would get played out left. It would have been cool and good.
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Steve Evets posted:Guess you don't know that Wenger outright turned him down. Dementia is setting in, poor Wengy  blue footed boobie posted:Most of those players picked up a lot of games on the wing, where Cesc isn't really very good. And you soundly really want cesc to play instead of Arteta. Ramsey wouldn't have gone anywhere. I'm also not convinced Fabregas would be much worse than Arteta in the holding role, though I agree he obviously isn't the ideal defensive midfielder (Wenger will never sign the ideal defensive midfielder). In any case, I'm sure City fans aren't too sad that Toure, Fernando, and Fernandinho can't all play at the same time. Then when one of them gets injured or loses form, they can have a nearly full strength midfield, rather than signing loving Kim Källström in January as cover.
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there is no dimension on which '33 year old Everton legend' mikel arteta is better than Cesc Fabregas
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lmaoboy1998 posted:there is no dimension on which '33 year old Everton legend' mikel arteta is better than Cesc Fabregas Actually his eyebrow game is several tiers higher
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lmaoboy1998 posted:The thing is Chelsea played him in that 'restricted' role yesterday and he still got a tasty assist. The man owns. Matic was the 'restricted' player, not Cesc. One of Matic or Ramires, or even both of them will support Fabregas and allow him to play. Cazorla played mostly in the wide areas. Yes Fabregas is better than Cazorla out wide, but Sanchez is better than both of them out wide. Fabregas has never been played in a position where he has to put in more than token defensive work in midfield, and I don't see how people would expect him to suddenly be able to absorb the defensive midfield burden. Arteta isn't the greatest, but the fact that he is a more limited player than Fabregas makes him more suited to a more limited role. In other words it would be criminal to tell Fabregas to sit there and play in a restricted area and play 5 yard passes with whoever is nearest, and then be responsible for breaking up the oppositions play, which he isn't good at doing in the first place. Only Wilshere and Rosicky play in Fabregas' natural position, and while Fabregas is better than both and would have improved the depth in that area, it would have also meant that you would have had a situation with Ozil Fabregas and Ramsey, all 3 of whom are too good to drop but only two of them can be fit into the core of the side effectively. It would have taken half the season to figure out which combo works best and Wenger probably thought it better to just get what we actually needed around what we already had than to keep tinkering. Bottom line, bringing Fabregas back either means playing a daft, unbalanced team, or regularly benching one of Ozil, Fabregas or Ramsey. It wasn't a no brainer to bring him back and the fact that Fabregas looks good on a football pitch doesn't mean it was a bad decision.
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"Arsenal should buy Fabregas and play him as a holding midfielder" A literal thing that was said on these forums. Holy poo poo.
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Fabregas is also a better striker than Olivier Giroud. Play him up top imo.
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"Hmm, this team just doesn't have space for Cesc Fabregas" A literal thing said by Arsenal fans on this forum. Holy poo poo.
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blue footed boobie posted:"Arsenal should buy Fabregas and play him as a holding midfielder" Arteta is not some defensive maestro!
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peanut- posted:"Hmm, this team just doesn't have space for Cesc Fabregas" It's pretty clear I wasn't against buying Fabregas. It's just that the opinions coming out of here are bizarre.
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