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Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

I think the Republicans broke the irony meter with this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-YapDAWLkQ

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oxbrain
Aug 18, 2005

Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip and come on up to the mothership.

DemeaninDemon posted:

Who the hell would nuke Middle of Nowhere, USA?

The people who worry most about terrorism live the furthest from anywhere terrorists would bomb.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Venusian Weasel posted:

You're lying. It's not a real Ramirez cartoon unless those cockroaches were labeled "debt".

Remember, you made me do this.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

oxbrain posted:

The people who worry most about terrorism live the furthest from anywhere terrorists would bomb.

"Bomb Oklahoma? Why? We're trying to destroy places not make them better."

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

I think the Republicans broke the irony meter with this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-YapDAWLkQ
This is going to be a problem when we end up allied with Iran against the Islamic State.

edit: very likely under a Republican president

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Aug 24, 2014

Caros
May 14, 2008

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Remember, you made me do this.


You know, this is an incredibly offensive image because of the whole 'Iranians are vile insects' thing. But damned if it isn't one of the more visually impressive pieces of conservative propaganda I've ever seen.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Caros posted:

You know, this is an incredibly offensive image because of the whole 'Iranians are vile insects' thing. But damned if it isn't one of the more visually impressive pieces of conservative propaganda I've ever seen.

I attribute that to it being made while Ramirez was in the early stages of whatever disease he has that makes him cross-hatch the gently caress out of everything, and draw people like worms.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Mister Macys posted:

Conservatives are stealing from a campaign ad used 50 years ago by a Democrat president? What? :psyduck:

That's not even the best or most ironic part. The original ad was criticizing Goldwater for being too hawkish.

MickeyFinn
May 8, 2007
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia some mark ass bitches

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Do you need me to trundle out that revolting Ramirez cartoon with Iran as a sewer grate with cockroaches scurrying out of it?

What I mean is, never mind that every jihadist group I have ever heard of is made up of Sunnis and that Iran is a majority Shia state. I don't think that I have ever seen any Iranian rhetoric that was based on religion, rather than being about western countries meddling in the affairs of the middle east. I'm not going to pretend to be particularly well informed, but even in my dim ignorance the 'Iranian jihadists' thing seems stupid to me. Am I off base here?

Also, I see it is too late for me to ask you not to post it. :(

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 17 hours!
Is Ramirez very old and nearly useless yet?

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Nonsense posted:

Is Ramirez very old and nearly useless yet?

He's 53 and still kicking strong (peddling GOP poo poo through Investors Business Daily).

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Nonsense posted:

Is Ramirez very old and nearly useless yet?

The worst of the conservatives are the most resilient.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
From a few pages back with Reid's comments caught by a tracker, one job I would never do no matter the pay is track Reid at a donor's event in Nevada. It would not surprise me if in a few decades somebody is found in a hole in the desert, and they happened to once be paid by the Republican party of Nevada.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
The original Daisy ad at least had Johnson say, "We must love each other".

Also, part of the reason that it was so effective is that it was the first 60 second political ad. Before it, campaigns would reserve 15-30 minutes to have the candidate deliver a manifesto or to play a film about their character.

Communist Zombie
Nov 1, 2011

Joementum posted:

The original Daisy ad at least had Johnson say, "We must love each other".

Also, part of the reason that it was so effective is that it was the first 60 second political ad. Before it, campaigns would reserve 15-30 minutes to have the candidate deliver a manifesto or to play a film about their character.

Really? In all my poli sci classes, including ones covering media and advertising, not one mentioned this pertinent fact. Hell nothing Ive read about it in my free time mentioned that either.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Communist Zombie posted:

Really? In all my poli sci classes, including ones covering media and advertising, not one mentioned this pertinent fact. Hell nothing Ive read about it in my free time mentioned that either.

If (perhaps) not the first, it was one of the first and started the trend. Bill Moyers hired the agency DDB to make short attack ads for the Johnson campaign and Daisy was one of the series they made for the '64 campaign. Johnson didn't want to run them because he thought they were too uncivil, but Moyers pushed the DNC to but the time anyway and put the ads on air.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Here's the relevant section from Perlstein's Before the Storm:


Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Joementum posted:

The original Daisy ad at least had Johnson say, "We must love each other".

Also, part of the reason that it was so effective is that it was the first 60 second political ad. Before it, campaigns would reserve 15-30 minutes to have the candidate deliver a manifesto or to play a film about their character.

Did anyone watch the longform ads?

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Badger of Basra posted:

Did anyone watch the longform ads?

Yes, because there were only three TV stations and it was playing on all of them.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

DemeaninDemon posted:

Who the hell would nuke Middle of Nowhere, USA?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/12/world/americas/12iht-targets.2184708.html

SavageBastard
Nov 16, 2007
Professional Lurker

Joementum posted:

Yes, because there were only three TV stations and it was playing on all of them.

Television also still had the air of magical holograms appearing in the middle of your living room so people would basically watch anything.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

SavageBastard posted:

Television also still had the air of magical holograms appearing in the middle of your living room so people would basically watch anything.

Plus remote controls, though they did exist, were not yet particularly common so changing the channel usually meant getting up and walking across the room.

Spatula City
Oct 21, 2010

LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING
It was sort of mindblowing when I found out Bill Moyers was a partisan hack as a young man. :psyduck:

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Spatula City posted:

It was sort of mindblowing when I found out Bill Moyers was a partisan hack as a young man. :psyduck:

You're not too much of a hack if multiple Presidents ask you to run fronts for the CIA and you turn them down to focus on domestic civil rights instead.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010


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Ultra Carp

DemeaninDemon posted:

Who the hell would nuke Middle of Nowhere, USA?



Look, when you have that many nukes you can't target them all at New York City or Washington DC. Sometimes you just want to ensure the Green Bay Packers are wiped forever from this Earth.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Fun Shoe

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Plus remote controls, though they did exist, were not yet particularly common so changing the channel usually meant getting up and walking across the room.

Then when "remote control" did finally come out one of the original versions was actually a box with one button that incremented the channel, looping at the last one, and was connected to the TV by a 20 foot long thick curly cord.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Joementum posted:

Yes, because there were only three TV stations and it was playing on all of them.
Ross Perot brought back long form ads, or whatever the proper term is for purchasing an hour of airtime and busting out the charts.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

CannonFodder posted:

Ross Perot brought back long form ads, or whatever the proper term is for purchasing an hour of airtime and busting out the charts.

Infomercials.

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Remember, you made me do this.


Oddly enough, there's only one jihadist roach in Saudi and the gulf.

Niton
Oct 21, 2010

Your Lord and Savior has finally arrived!

..got any kibble?

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Remember, you made me do this.


Israel's immigrant population is attempting to find extra room in Gaza?

A good cartoon.

Acebuckeye13 posted:



Look, when you have that many nukes you can't target them all at New York City or Washington DC. Sometimes you just want to ensure the Green Bay Packers are wiped forever from this Earth.

What's in Montana that would eat that many nukes? Did they just get tired of pinpointing sites and drop the last hundred or so there?

Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets

Niton posted:

Israel's immigrant population is attempting to find extra room in Gaza?

A good cartoon.


What's in Montana that would eat that many nukes? Did they just get tired of pinpointing sites and drop the last hundred or so there?

Nuclear silos in Montana and N. Dakota

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Niton posted:

Israel's immigrant population is attempting to find extra room in Gaza?

A good cartoon.


What's in Montana that would eat that many nukes? Did they just get tired of pinpointing sites and drop the last hundred or so there?

They only knew the general area of the Silo's, so they would just carpet the area.

Niton
Oct 21, 2010

Your Lord and Savior has finally arrived!

..got any kibble?

Alexzandvar posted:

They only knew the general area of the Silo's, so they would just carpet the area.

Oh, that makes sense :downs: Not knowing the area is definitely a good reason.

Hedera Helix
Sep 2, 2011

The laws of the fiesta mean nothing!

Acebuckeye13 posted:



Look, when you have that many nukes you can't target them all at New York City or Washington DC. Sometimes you just want to ensure the Green Bay Packers are wiped forever from this Earth.

I like that the dams on the Columbia are targeted. It's not enough that the upper Willamette Valley gets hit; you also need to send a wall of water crashing down upon the survivors.

The Puget Sound, though... :(

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Hedera Helix posted:

I like that the dams on the Columbia are targeted. It's not enough that the upper Willamette Valley gets hit; you also need to send a wall of water crashing down upon the survivors.

The Puget Sound, though... :(

My Apocalypse plan is safe in both scenarios. :smug:

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Hedera Helix posted:

I like that the dams on the Columbia are targeted. It's not enough that the upper Willamette Valley gets hit; you also need to send a wall of water crashing down upon the survivors.

It's not just that though, they're pretty major sources of power.

Polikarpov
Jun 1, 2013

Keep it between the buoys

Acebuckeye13 posted:



Look, when you have that many nukes you can't target them all at New York City or Washington DC. Sometimes you just want to ensure the Green Bay Packers are wiped forever from this Earth.

SAC's master plan for Russia was so over-targeted that they had multiple megatons tasked on footbridges in the siberian hinterland.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level

The X-man cometh posted:

Oddly enough, there's only one jihadist roach in Saudi and the gulf.

And they're staying the hell away from Turkmenistan

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Azipod posted:

SAC's master plan for Russia was so over-targeted that they had multiple megatons tasked on footbridges in the siberian hinterland.

You can only bomb Moscow so many times, soldier!

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CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost

Niton posted:

What's in Montana that would eat that many nukes? Did they just get tired of pinpointing sites and drop the last hundred or so there?

Those black blobs are there general locations of our ICBMs. Also there is a large airforce base in that region, and it used to host a lot of bombers.

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