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Kalli posted:Top QB's by passer rating: didn't know tight ends could have passer ratings
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Alouicious posted:didn't know tight ends could have passer ratings I honestly was convinced that was how he was going to try to make the NFL even on draft night. I have no idea where I read that but they were talking like it was a done deal.
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Aug 24, 2014 22:14
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Kalli posted:That's almost 5% lower completion percentage then Mark Sanchez. And his QB rating is 25 points lower then Kellen Clemens. I see nothing wrong with that. The math there clearly backs up the Cardinals inevitable victory. Everyone else should just pack it in really.
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Aug 24, 2014 22:17
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Flikken posted:I didn't watch it but did Gordon even play? And I can't say I am too surprised on our first year defensive minded head coach being unable in getting our shittastic offense to get the ball moving. He sure didn't play. FuzzySkinner posted:The only reason you start Hoyer at this point is to make JFF doesn't get hurt against the first three. Hoyer or Manziel, the Browns probably are well on their way to losing double digit games again. Its just a matter of how you want your lovely, disappointing failures to go. Hoyer probably is more consistent with hot and cold streaks, Manziel is probably maddening with titanic 21 year old fuckups mixed with his college bullshit that leads to exciting moments in the midst of losses. I'd love to write off preseason as preseason. Offense is running plain, defense plain. Lot of people with minor injuries being held out, Gordon not playing, etc. But since its the Browns, when they look that lovely through the preseason, I know what it likely portends.
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Aug 24, 2014 22:37
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John Brown posted:It makes me sad that we will never see RG3's full potential. Sure we did, in 2012
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Aug 24, 2014 22:47
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PrinceRandom posted:Instead of mourning Bortles, the qb we had no shot at, you should mourn Bridgewater, the guy we coulda had. Su'a-Filo better be starter quality fairly quickly. Not sure how there could be any player we have no shot at when we draft #1 overall!
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Aug 24, 2014 23:11
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Intruder posted:Not sure how there could be any player we have no shot at when we draft #1 overall! I'm sure as hell not giving up Clowney 
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Aug 24, 2014 23:13
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FizFashizzle posted:Does anyone else remember Jeffersonlives comparing Sanchez's rookie stats to John Elway's? no but i do remember other jets fans downplaying Mark's int's by comparing them to peyton's rookie picks.
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Aug 24, 2014 23:17
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PrinceRandom posted:I'm sure as hell not giving up Clowney No see you must always take the QB over the freakish DE. Julius Peppers doesn't look like he plays with a ton of effort, either. What year is this, again?
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Aug 24, 2014 23:18
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Ozu posted:Yes Kyle Wilson is terrible, even when limited to nickleback. I still like Darren Walls to step up and play outside and opposite Milliner when he comes back. He gets knocked for dropping pick 6s, but he's been in good enough position to potentially makes those plays. Wilson, meanwhile, plays 7 yards off on 3rd and 6. The offense did look very good. But i hope it wasn't fools gold since the Giants are just awful...
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Aug 24, 2014 23:21
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bhsman posted:No see you must always take the QB over the freakish DE. Julius Peppers doesn't look like he plays with a ton of effort, either. I love JJ but I'd trade him for Luck in a heartbeat
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Aug 24, 2014 23:22
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Real hurthling! posted:no but i do remember other jets fans downplaying Mark's int's by comparing them to peyton's rookie picks. There was a point where through their first 3-4 years, Sanchez and Eli's numbers were almost identical. Im definitely a Jets fan who brought that up.
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Aug 24, 2014 23:30
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Ozu posted:There was a point where through their first 3-4 years, Sanchez and Eli's numbers were almost identical. Im definitely a Jets fan who brought that up. Ka is a wheel.
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Aug 24, 2014 23:31
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Intruder posted:I love JJ but I'd trade him for Luck in a heartbeat Well OK then.
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Aug 24, 2014 23:45
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Intruder posted:I love JJ but I'd trade him for Luck in a heartbeat it's ok step away from the edge of the cliff
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Aug 24, 2014 23:53
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OHJoe Theismann posted:“Let’s stop beating around the bush,” Theismann said early in the fourth quarter. “Kirk Cousins has played much better at the quarterback position than Robert Griffin III has. Now, Robert is learning to work out of a pocket. He doesn’t look as smooth or as comfortable throwing the football. I mean, your eyes will tell you everything you need to know. Mike from Fairfax, you're on the air, what do you make of THIS?!
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Aug 25, 2014 00:14
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Yeah you trade watt for luck how is that even a question
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Aug 25, 2014 00:16
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DB Darryl Morris had a helluva good INT on the last play of the Niners-Chargers game.
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Aug 25, 2014 00:19
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Well, with Marcus Martin down, Niners will be stuck with Kilgore at center all year. 8-8 here we come.
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Aug 25, 2014 00:32
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Reading that Garropola post, I just realized EJ went 10/10 for 131 yards and a TD against second stringers. In a parallel universe, EJ's backing up Fitzpatrick and I'm pounding the table for him to start, lol
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Aug 25, 2014 00:34
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Yeah you trade watt for luck how is that even a question Watt is already at an All-Pro level, whereas I'm not entirely convinced Luck is as good as the hype leads one to believe.
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Aug 25, 2014 00:38
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Intruder posted:I love JJ but I'd trade him for Luck in a heartbeat I wasn't in the thread too much last night, did Intruder have a BBP-like meltdown and his brain is broken now?
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Aug 25, 2014 00:49
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Oh cool starting Packers C JC Tretter is out for "multiple" weeks with a knee injury
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Aug 25, 2014 00:55
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Wanvig posted:I wasn't in the thread too much last night, did Intruder have a BBP-like meltdown and his brain is broken now? I think he's been despondent ever since the Arizona game and has only been watching Bortles look competent against 2nd-stringers. 
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Aug 25, 2014 00:55
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bhsman posted:Watt is already at an All-Pro level, whereas I'm not entirely convinced Luck is as good as the hype leads one to believe. Andrew Luck: all hype AAA DOLFAN posted:Yeah you trade watt for luck how is that even a question
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Aug 25, 2014 00:58
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Homestar Runner posted:Andrew Luck: all hype After last night I wouldn't be surprised that you have difficulty parsing what people say without assuming.
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Aug 25, 2014 01:00
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so is deflecting your own lack of intelligence like your gimmick or what
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Aug 25, 2014 01:04
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say no to bats posted:But since its the Browns, when they look that lovely through the preseason, I know what it likely portends. I'm still at a loss as to how a team could just be this incompetent. And it's not been from a lack of trying and the inability to spend money. At least I can point at the Bengals and the Cardinals runs of failure, then go "See their owners penny pinch, doesn't spend money on bringing scouts, coaches, and players. That's why they suck." I can't even remotely say that for the Browns. I've seen them spend money ON EVERYTHING since I've been a kid. Practice Facility? Check, Stadium Upgrades? Check, Head Coaches? Check, Coaches? Check, GM's? Check, Free Agents? Check. The Wide receivers can't catch and the Quarterbacks seem unable to make a loving throw to save their lives. I have no loving way to explain that. None. It sucks because I want to love this team. I want them to take my sundays away from me, I want them to take all my hard earned money away from me for every type of useless nicknack one could imagine having, I want to spend money on tickets, and go to games with my friends. Why the hell should I bother doing any of that? It makes me stupidly angry, you know? I realize I should be numb at a certain point to all of this, but still man.
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Aug 25, 2014 01:06
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Homestar Runner posted:so is deflecting your own lack of intelligence like your gimmick or what Were you always like this or have there been substances involved? Find better ways to respond to posts you disagree with other than extrapolating some ridiculous conclusion that wasn't even inferable. PrinceRandom posted:I'm gonna keep Watt thnks. 
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Aug 25, 2014 01:08
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Honestly, looking at the Texans' record vs the Colts' record tells you everything you need to know about the relative value of a QB vs a defensive end. If your team needs a QB, there is no player too sacred not to trade for Andrew Luck.
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Burger Trench posted:Honestly, looking at the Texans' record vs the Colts' record tells you everything you need to know about the relative value of a QB vs a defensive end. If your team needs a QB, there is no player too sacred not to trade for Andrew Luck. Or the fact that with JJ Watt Watting all over the NFL last year, the Texans still had the worst record in the league because of horrible qb play. I get falling in love with players on the team you root for, but to not take a 25 year old legit franchise quarterback (the most important position in football) is kinda nuts to me.
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49ers Bruce Ellington looked great, like a player who's been missing from the offense all along. Glenn Winston has a good chance to steal Hampton's PS spot. LMJ looked solid. Chris Culliver played well. Eric Reid looks awesome again. Jimmy Ward keeps getting better. Daryl Morris played very well. Michael Wilhoite is definitely going to be the starter. Chris Borland is definitely going to be the primary backup. Sorry Skov (and Moody, who will probably be traded for a 7th). Joe Looney cleaned up his mistakes of the past two weeks, looked decent.  Jonathan Martin looked just fine again.Quinton Patton is going to slip behind Ellington, but will be great depth. Daniel Kilgore looked much better working to his right than his left. Blew a few line shifts. Mike Iupati just looked embarrassing on several plays, but so did Staley. I wonder if they simply had instructions to avoid contact, or if Luiget is just that good (entirely possible). Edit: They're going to try to stash Asante Cleveland on the practice squad. Hid him well. Coldforge fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Aug 25, 2014 |
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Shath Hole posted:Or the fact that with JJ Watt Watting all over the NFL last year, the Texans still had the worst record in the league because of horrible qb play. I get falling in love with players on the team you root for, but to not take a 25 year old legit franchise quarterback (the most important position in football) is kinda nuts to me. You, a Falcons fan, wanna tell me about needing a franchise QB and poor records?
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bhsman posted:Were you always like this or have there been substances involved? bhsman posted:Find better ways to respond to posts you disagree with hmmm yes *dumb rhetorical question* lol come on now anyways have fun with uh, Fitzmagic!
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Aug 25, 2014 01:30
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I'm annoyed we could have had, Watt, Clowney and Bridgewater.
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Homestar Runner posted:hmmm yes *dumb rhetorical question* lol come on now Have fun with a braindead Welker and a successfully trolled Manning I guess, dick. PrinceRandom posted:I'm annoyed we could have had, Watt, Clowney and Bridgewater. Savage gets no love. 
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bhsman posted:You, a Falcons fan, wanna tell me about needing a franchise QB and poor records? Yeah. I am.
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bhsman posted:Have fun with a braindead Welker okay. overreaction. but okay! lol deflecting really is your gimmick
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Shath Hole posted:Yeah. I am. Fair enough, and I see your point but I feel like anyone who goes "But they had JJ Watt and still went 2-14!" is only judging that season by the record alone. It would just as silly to look at Atlanta's record and think elite QBs were worthless because Matt Ryan had a good season and they still stunk up the place. Would you agree?
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