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ghost sex posted:Red was saying it's been that way up through to gen6. Drowzee and hypno have never been able to learn Dream Eater by any method other than tutor or TM. Their dream eating has never been anything more than pokedex flavor text. That thing also says that Pidgeot flies at Mach 2, and we all know that's not quite accurate. Darth TNT posted:A pair of dangly dice on a rearview mirror don't make a pimp mobile. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. 
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Crosspeice posted:You should be using Repels all the time, no point fighting wild Pokemon, you get all the exp you need from trainer battles.
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Aug 11, 2014 09:11
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PassingPie posted:Their dream eating has never been anything more than pokedex flavor text. That thing also says that Pidgeot flies at Mach 2, and we all know that's not quite accurate. Drowzee and Hypno (And Munna and its horrific eyed evolution) are all based on the myth of the Baku, the chimeric elephant-snounted dream eater Munna can learn Dream Eater. Drowzee can't.
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Simply Simon posted:I tried this for Diamond and found out that my team always was juuust at the level of the wild Pokemon (or the level of the highest-leveled possible) so the Repels never did anything. Which is a pity because gently caress slow-rear end Diamond and its caves full of Golbats. It kinda works for most games if you fight every trainer and slowly build a team of six across the game, doing things otherwise will kinda screw with that a bit, but I've been successful in every generation so far with Repels always working.
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Aug 11, 2014 09:15
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PassingPie posted:Their dream eating has never been anything more than pokedex flavor text. That thing also says that Pidgeot flies at Mach 2, and we all know that's not quite accurate. Imagine living in a world where birds constantly break the sound barrier.
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Aug 11, 2014 09:19
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Really, the Pokedex entries are all a bit suspect. e:  
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Aug 11, 2014 10:44
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The Pokedex is one of the reasons I want a soft Pokemon reboot. Rewrite all the Pokedex data from scratch so that it actually makes goddamn sense.
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Aug 11, 2014 15:40
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Wailord weighing so little actually makes sense, though. After all, he's the Float Whale pokemon- how else does he hover around above land? (Besides, you know, how all the other fish do it. Which is magic.)
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Aug 11, 2014 17:04
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Pokemon regions are very humid. Water Pokemon are swimming in the air-water. Duh. It's science.
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Aug 11, 2014 17:08
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Frocobo posted:The Pokedex is one of the reasons I want a soft Pokemon reboot. Rewrite all the Pokedex data from scratch so that it actually makes goddamn sense. http://awkwardzombie.com/index.php?page=0&comic=011011
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Aug 11, 2014 17:22
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Asator posted:I have never noticed all the little details in the Strange House music before now. In game it's extremely quiet, so it's hard to make much of it out, but then when you turn it up everything else (like, say, the wild battle music) becomes really loud. ...I never really even knew it had music, so I clicked on the link, and holy crap. This sounds like something out of a Horror game like Silent Hill or something.
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Aug 11, 2014 19:18
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The Strange House is pretty great. One of the better atmospheric areas in the series for me. It's a lot like the Old Chateau, but done much better here I think.
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Frocobo posted:The Pokedex is one of the reasons I want a soft Pokemon reboot. Rewrite all the Pokedex data from scratch so that it actually makes goddamn sense. This is the exact opposite way to do it, change the game to take the Pokedex data into account Moon jumping diamond feet fire horses for everyone absolutely anything fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Aug 12, 2014 |
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Aug 12, 2014 01:38
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absolutely anything posted:This is the exact opposite way to do it, change the game to take the Pokedex data into account The landscape is in constant turmoil as Larvitars eat entire mountains. Then they grow up into Tyranitars and knock down said mountains and bury rivers. Oh and Entei's barking causes volcanoes to erupt. It's ripe material for a constantly shifting dungeon! (with a high chance of very fatal cave-ins) 
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Ramengank posted:It's ripe material for a constantly shifting dungeon! (with a high chance of very fatal cave-ins) You know what worries me? In XY you can have wild Graveler "swoop down from the ceiling." They weigh like 500 pounds!
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StandardVC10 posted:You know what worries me? In XY you can have wild Graveler "swoop down from the ceiling." They weigh like 500 pounds!
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Aug 12, 2014 05:21
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There's some serious potential for creepy stuff in Pokeworld. I'm glad the Strange House exists.
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Glazius posted:There's some serious potential for creepy stuff in Pokeworld. I'm glad the Strange House exists.
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 #31. My Afternoon with Bianca  Alright! Spooky night over. Spooky day begin. Let's see if anything cool lives around here!  Yeah, yeah that's pretty cool!  Cute but I don't know about cool!  Very festive, I like that. Yup. Maybe I should catch something from here.  Eh, you'll do.  Choro Notes: Spoink and Grumpig are unique to Black2 version. White2 version has Numel and Camerupt instead.    Choro Notes: Reversal Mountain Reversal Mountain is like Opelucid Town in another area that varies between Black2 and White2 version. In White2 the Volcano is active and full of fire and steam as opposed to . . . you'll see. (This is why Camerupt appear here in White2 instead of Grumpig.) Strangely enough, they mixed up the map descriptions if you look at the top of this update. White2 describes it as "A volcano with a record of a huge eruption long ago." It's even got it's own music:  Music: Reversal Mountain (White2 Version)But really this is the one you should listen to for the rest: Music: Reversal Mountain (Black2 Version)- - -  Choro Notes: Everyone complaining about the encounters in this area:  Choro Notes: they flat out give you a max repel right at the entrance. Not that you're wrong to complain about the encounters in here: all that lives here are Spoink/Grumpig, Boldore, Woobat, Skorupi and Excadrill. It's really a boring selection.  Oh yeah, spraying that.  Ah.   Yes? Bianca?   . . . do you wanna just bum off my repel?  I can, sure.  Choro Notes: Bianca works like the team-ups in other games: She'll fully heal both parties after each battle.  Right Right!  - - -  Bianca? Maybe you should look forward. Got some holes in the floor up ahead and all.  Choro Notes: In addition, all wild encounters will be double encounters. This is handy in case you wanna ruin some Excadrills days. You know, out of spite. Spite or training. Spite Training.  so I left on a journey to find out!"Yeah? How'd that go? "Oh! Check this out."  O-oh, you gave it a hat. That's, uh, something you're capable of. Yeah.  The wh—  BWHOA, GEEZ.      Choro Notes: Bianca will always default to starting with her Musharna. She's also got her Stoutland and a Mienfoo with her.       Uh, Bianca? You're actually doing pretty good . . . "C="     Choro Notes: This is the absolute WORST thing you could do versus Redjru.   Choro Notes: Same-type bonus+Adaptability+Mystic Water+Rain conditions. The only thing worse you could've done was dress your monster up in a Blue Basculin costume. Swanna RESISTS water-type moves and that happened.  Yeah, yeah those fish scales got in them swan eyes pretty good . . .  "Yes! Please! C="   legendary Pokémon Heatran will appear." Choro Notes: If you're not paying attention, you can completely miss this: the shadow is the sign of a door.    Bianca your Musharna is kind of tough, just saying.   for me."Yeah, yeah. I can relate to that I guess.  Choro Notes: There's nothing out the obvious cave to the right, however it does give you just the right angle to barely see the Shadow Ball TM from the previous update hidden behind the Spook House.  Choro Notes: A feature added in Black2/White2 is if your Repel runs out, it will ask if you just wanna use another. IT IS THE BEST FEATURE.  Choro Notes: Scary Face just lowers the target's speed sharply. It's not really that useful for Basculin.  Yes. "Yes! C="    "Actually there was a really nice trainer back that way! C=" - - -   Hmm.  Choro Notes: False Swipe is a physical Normal-type move that can't reduce the target past 1 HP. It's meant for capturing monsters.   Choro Notes: In White2, this is a Fire Gem and a Flame Orb! The Toxic Orb badly poisons the holder, similarly the Flame Orb burns the holder. There are reasons you would want to do this, mostly triggering abilities, hucking them with Fling or donating them with Switcheroo or Trick.  Choro Notes: Iron Defense sharpy raises the user's defense stat. Jawnie really does not need this. Intimidate gets the work done and a turn used Iron Defensing is a turn not used biting poo poo.   "For instance! Musharna? Hates eating dreams about clowns. I wonder if they *snrk* taste funny?" Bianca, yes, thank you.  what I want to do . . . " Well if it's fun, do it. How's the pay? "P-R-E-T-T-Y good."   Ah, I should really go find about about dragons or something. You know how it is working for her and all.   Yeah, good luck with that.  Yeah, yeah.   Good chat. Good chat.
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This was quite uneventful. Bianca however still shows she's a surprisingly great character. And I really need to try a Basculin once.
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Darth TNT posted:This was quite uneventful. Bianca however still shows she's a surprisingly great character. That's one of the big failings of Black2/White2, The places that ARE new are usually really bland. When plot does happen it happens quickly and suddenly and then it's over and we all continue on our ways. It's the opposite of Black/White, basically.
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Aug 26, 2014 21:47
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Man, this place is way cooler in White2. Oh well.
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Shoulda got a skorupi, they own bones, yo.
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I can confirm that Drapion does, indeed, own bones. Very nice team member, Night Slash all day erry day. And it might be a mistake by GF, but maybe the map descriptions are also reversed. Eh? Eh?
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Aug 26, 2014 23:11
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Boring section, but really chill music.
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majormonotone posted:Man, this place is way cooler in White2. Oh well. You mean "hotter" right? Because it's an active volcano and all... But I think that Reversal Mountain's gimmick is kind of interesting. Actually, both versions reminds me of Lava Reef Zone from Sonic 3.
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Wait, I'm lost, because I beat Black 2 eons ago and I don't remember. Is Heatran really not there? After all of that? Then what was the point?
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SonicRulez posted:Wait, I'm lost, because I beat Black 2 eons ago and I don't remember. Is Heatran really not there? After all of that? Then what was the point? Heatran is there, but they keep telling you: You need the Magma Stone. The Magma Stone is not in Reversal Mountain.
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Aug 27, 2014 03:32
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SonicRulez posted:Wait, I'm lost, because I beat Black 2 eons ago and I don't remember. Is Heatran really not there? After all of that? Then what was the point? If you get the lava stone (which is on an island in the middle of fuckin' nowhere in the post game) you can bring it to the center room and Heatran will appear.
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Aug 27, 2014 03:33
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Reversal Mountain drove me nuts for a while because there was an area I could see, but couldn't reach. Turned out it was only open on the other version.
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Crosspeice posted:I can confirm that Drapion does, indeed, own bones. Very nice team member, Night Slash all day erry day. It's a credit to the 'mon that I stuck through because as abysmal as Pin Missile is, with +2 Attack off Acupressure it becomes almost good enough and the little guy can tank some serious damage. Of course, everything's far better for the entire line in Gen V. Best Gen.
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Agreeing with the "it's better in W2" comments, overall I just think it's more visually appealing there. B2 has some nice, chill music though.
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Quite a few Pokemon have awkward movepools when they're introduced and you have to wait a few gens to have their movepool properly fleshed out. Gen I had this in spades, since every other move was a normal type move and some types were mostly unusable (Bug, Ghost, Dragon). It's good to see that nearly twenty years on, some Pokemon have been given new life with great moves and abilities. Another tough Pokemon to raise in this game is Volcarona, who can use Fire Spin and Bug Bite. At least you can tutor on Signal Beam and Heat Wave and you can also get Flamethrower eventually. It was tough, but also quite fun. Now it's a murdering machine, but Volcarona are.
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Crosspeice posted:Quite a few Pokemon have awkward movepools when they're introduced and you have to wait a few gens to have their movepool properly fleshed out. Gen I had this in spades, since every other move was a normal type move and some types were mostly unusable (Bug, Ghost, Dragon). It's good to see that nearly twenty years on, some Pokemon have been given new life with great moves and abilities. Flareon jumps to mind. I think that's one of the Pokemon that took the longest to get a decent moveset.
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SonicRulez posted:Flareon jumps to mind. I think that's one of the Pokemon that took the longest to get a decent moveset. I liked Cloyster getting skill link as its hidden ability and kicking everyone's rear end with Icicle spear. (Hell, extend this to anything that learns multi-hit moves and got that ability.) Not sure if new evolutions count, but Togetic getting an evolution to Togekiss pulled it out of the shitheap and made it a top tier annoying bastard. The addition of Fairy type in G6 was just icing on the ParaFlinch cake.
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SonicRulez posted:Flareon jumps to mind. I think that's one of the Pokemon that took the longest to get a decent moveset. Hey hey, it's had Flare Blitz since gen 4! By a very specific glitch. And didn't get it legally until X/Y.
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Crosspeice posted:Quite a few Pokemon have awkward movepools when they're introduced and you have to wait a few gens to have their movepool properly fleshed out. Gen I had this in spades, since every other move was a normal type move and some types were mostly unusable (Bug, Ghost, Dragon). It's good to see that nearly twenty years on, some Pokemon have been given new life with great moves and abilities. Volcarona gets it especially bad because it both evolves so late and it swaps between physical and special focus. A number of pokemon could be saved by just giving them so new moves that actually fit them or at least . While various updates so help, especially for pokemon made before they introduced radically changed game mechanics, they don't make up for design ideas that just don't make sense to begin with like loading special attackers with physical moves in recent games (looking at you Flabebe) or their quest to make defensive pokemon of a type that only resists itself. Gamefreak does kind of run on moon logic at times.
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Speaking of Volcarona, I really don't like how some pokemon don't evolve until basically the post game. When exactly am I gonna get any use out of Hydreigon?
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Manatee Cannon posted:Speaking of Volcarona, I really don't like how some pokemon don't evolve until basically the post game. When exactly am I gonna get any use out of Hydreigon? Gen 5 was in that awkward phase where you were still expected to beat the game at roughly L55 at highest, but a lot of its pokemon (Braviary, Mandibuzz, Mienshao, Volcarona, Hydreigon) don't evolve until right before the absolute end of the game or past the end credits. X/Y is better about that since the Elite 4 brushes up against L60-70, and it's not uncommon to end up higher than that if you've been using the Exp Share. That said, pseudo-legendaries (Dragonite, Tyranitar, Salamence, Metagross, Garchomp, and Hydreigon) are intentionally late evolvers to make up for their superior stats and (with exception of Tyranitar and Metagross) Dragon-typing. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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