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The Ninth Layer posted:Speaking of Hopkins the fight I'm most excited about coming up is Hopkins-Kovalev. Curious about what some of your thoughts are. My thinking on it is that Hopkins is really hard to hit flush and really tough to beat an in inside fight. Krusher's best chance is probably at range, I don't think he'll be able to walk Hopkins down and batter him like he's done other challengers. My gut says Hopkins by decision here; if B-hop does win then he's a top-10 ATG in my book. My thoughts vis-a-vis Hopkins are, regardless of what he says, he's not going to take a fight unless he sees a specific strategy for winning. So if he's willing to fight Kovalev at all, it's because he's got a plan where he thinks he can win. So if you're going to try to predict Hopkins winning or losing, you have to assume that HE thinks he can win, and balance A) the fact that every top boxer always thinks they can win, because you can't be a top guy without having a ridiculously high opinion of yourself, and B) the fact that Hopkins has forgotten more about boxing than most of us will ever know.
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i think hopkins will probably make it ugly as gently caress and win narrowly on points tbh. hopkins isn't gonna be there to hit like kovalev's highlight reel knock outs were and even though kovalev doesn't need to catch you clean to hurt you i think hopkins is crafty enough to survive any tough moments.
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Sep 7, 2014 01:29
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"Ring-a-ding-a-dong". Even Al Bernstein wants this idiot off the broadcast.
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Sep 7, 2014 03:21
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The Showtime announcers are the worst.
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Sep 7, 2014 03:22
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Hey, all of Andre Berto's pieces stayed together!  e: Is this guy really calling Maidana a boxing mastercraft?
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fatherdog posted:My thoughts vis-a-vis Hopkins are, regardless of what he says, he's not going to take a fight unless he sees a specific strategy for winning. So if he's willing to fight Kovalev at all, it's because he's got a plan where he thinks he can win. So if you're going to try to predict Hopkins winning or losing, you have to assume that HE thinks he can win, and balance A) the fact that every top boxer always thinks they can win, because you can't be a top guy without having a ridiculously high opinion of yourself, and B) the fact that Hopkins has forgotten more about boxing than most of us will ever know. I mostly agree with this, but I think you're not giving Hopkins enough credit for being a fight-all-comers guy. There's nobody at LHW he hasn't either fought or tried to fight.
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Why is the Showtime crew making more of a big deal on the count than necessary? Ortiz made the situation a judgement call. At that point, he had spit out his mouthpiece, and had not exactly done much before the 8-9 count interval to indicate he wanted to continue. Many refs let that go, but thats pure discretion.
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Sep 7, 2014 04:11
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Good first round from Taylor. I saw him try to throw a Maidana hooking overhand right. The crowd was clearly staring at a fight in the crowd the whole time.
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Sep 7, 2014 04:27
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This fight rules.
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Sep 7, 2014 04:38
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Sep 7, 2014 04:39
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A Tale of Two Broners
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Sep 7, 2014 04:42
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Taylor is definitely ahead IMO but this is a hometown fight for Broner.
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Sep 7, 2014 04:46
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Taylor's game plan is working great but I think he's going to wear himself out and pay for it when he can't push Broner on the back foot anymore. ^^^^ Also yeah, boxing judges.
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Sep 7, 2014 04:47
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Holy gently caress that was an awesome round of an awesome fight.
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Sep 7, 2014 05:10
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Well that was more entertaining than expected.
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Good fight. Broner saved himself a lot of criticism with that last second knock-down. I felt he was losing the round up until that point.
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Sep 7, 2014 05:11
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can someone give me a summary of the fight / judging?
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Sep 7, 2014 05:18
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Why is the same Showtime interview guy that acts like a prick to every other fighter being nice to Adrien Broner of all people?
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Sep 7, 2014 05:19
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Got to hand it to Taylor. He came and gave it his all and left with no excuses. I thought the judging was pretty fair. Without Broner knocking Taylor down in the 12th I could have seen the fight as a draw. ^^^^Same reason that Paulie is praising him. Do what the hand that feeds you says.
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Marching Powder posted:can someone give me a summary of the fight / judging? from what i saw it was pretty much entirely fought at midrange behind high guards and was very give/take. taylor managed to back broner to the ropes often but it was still pretty even because broner was working well off the ropes. the scorecards were 115-112 and 116-111x 2 which is probably about right considering broner got the knockdown in the 12th and i thought he probably stole a lot of the rounds just by being more active in the last 30 seconds.
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thehappyprince posted:from what i saw it was pretty much entirely fought at midrange behind high guards and was very give/take. taylor managed to back broner to the ropes often but it was still pretty even because broner was working well off the ropes. the scorecards were 115-112 and 116-111x 2 which is probably about right considering broner got the knockdown in the 12th and i thought he probably stole a lot of the rounds just by being more active in the last 30 seconds. muchas gracias
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I missed the Broner fight but I'm glad to hear it was a good one. Think it's interesting that he called out Matthysse instead of, say, the Mayweather-Maidana winner. I don't think I've heard Broner mention Maidana's name since the loss, it doesn't sound at all like that's a rematch he has on his radar.
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I watched this fight with a bunch of people last night. When Taylor came out with a rapper everyone wanted to see him get his rear end beat, then when Broner came out with TWO rappers and danced to the ring the tide turned so hard against him. We wanted to see him get destroyed. I would have paid 100 bucks to see him knocked out 25 seconds into the fight (which is why he does it obviously). It was a good fight though. Another subject, but we are thinking about going to Atlantic City for the Hopkins fight in November. Has anyone gone to fight at Boardwalk Hall? What prices are we looking at for good seats? I don't want to drive all the way to Atlantic City to be 200 rows back.
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The Ninth Layer posted:I missed the Broner fight but I'm glad to hear it was a good one. Think it's interesting that he called out Matthysse instead of, say, the Mayweather-Maidana winner. I don't think I've heard Broner mention Maidana's name since the loss, it doesn't sound at all like that's a rematch he has on his radar. He talked a lot about Maidana and an immediate rematch up until Mayweather-Maidana I was set, at which point he said he'd wait for Floyd to beat him and then avenge his loss. I haven't heard anything about it since Mayweather-Maidana I, though. Based on the fact that Garcia beat him by moving and Broner has lead feet, I think Matthysse will loving murder him and I will be the happiest man in the Northern hemisphere.
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Ribsauce posted:I watched this fight with a bunch of people last night. When Taylor came out with a rapper everyone wanted to see him get his rear end beat, then when Broner came out with TWO rappers and danced to the ring the tide turned so hard against him. We wanted to see him get destroyed. I would have paid 100 bucks to see him knocked out 25 seconds into the fight (which is why he does it obviously). Honestly Boardwalk Hall is small enough that no seats are really that bad.
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fatherdog posted:Honestly Boardwalk Hall is small enough that no seats are really that bad. Seconding this. Know your budget, and stick with it. You'll be able to see everything.
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Sep 8, 2014 02:09
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Hey SituAsian, want to write up the Mayweather GDT thread? We're about a week out and I'm starting to get the hype bug. Maidana is a bigger underdog than the first time around IMO, Floyd seems to have all the advantages here including the knowledge of how dangerous Maidana can be now. Still, nobody besides Castillo has ever gotten a second crack at Mayweather before. Maidana will have gained confidence and lost respect for Floyd since the first match and he should have a better idea of how to pace himself. Chino is one of a handful of guys that can turn it up in a fight at will if he's motivated; he can probably steal rounds and even catch Floyd by surprise throughout, much as he did in their first fight. Mayweather isn't getting any younger too.
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The Ninth Layer posted:Mayweather isn't getting any younger too. I think this is the biggest factor in everything
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The Ninth Layer posted:Hey SituAsian, want to write up the Mayweather GDT thread? I think Floyd's legs are the million dollar question.
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The Ninth Layer posted:Hey SituAsian, want to write up the Mayweather GDT thread? I'll certainly give it a try  Prepare for a LOT of allusions to Jones-Tarver 2.
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The SituAsian posted:I'll certainly give it a try I mean, Roy had a somewhat believable excuse. What was Floyd's for the first fight?
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he hosed too many hot girls all the time because he's loving masculine and straight
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Grittybeard posted:I mean, Roy had a somewhat believable excuse. What was Floyd's for the first fight? He decided to make it closer and more competitive because he wanted to give the fans an entertaining fight, obviously.
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Floyd talking about retirement gonna lose one saturday and fight forever like Roy.
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KidDynamite posted:Floyd talking about retirement gonna lose one saturday and fight forever like Roy. Floyd to win via adalaide byrd decision, then retire.
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http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/9/9/6129975/floyd-mayweather-on-ray-rice-worse-things-happen-not-caught-on-video Floyd offers his opinion on Ray Rice, concludes that worse things happen all the time but just aren't caught on video. Like, say, things Floyd does. 
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Gregor Samsa posted:http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/9/9/6129975/floyd-mayweather-on-ray-rice-worse-things-happen-not-caught-on-video His security guard was reevaluating his own life choices during that conversation.
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Gregor Samsa posted:http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/9/9/6129975/floyd-mayweather-on-ray-rice-worse-things-happen-not-caught-on-video If there anyone's opinion I value on matters of domestic abuse, it's Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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CommonShore posted:His security guard was reevaluating his own life choices during that conversation. Thats not his security , its Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe. I believe he is Floyds advisor/entourage in chief.
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