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I was really close to pulling the trigger on Blockscape a week or so ago, and then some research made it sound like development had slowed or stopped and I bailed out. I'm definitely the sort of person who want more adventure/exploration in their sandbox game. Creative mode does nothing for me, even if it is lovely. Definitely going to wait and see if it gets monsters/survival stuff.
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Is anyone in the Everquest landmark thing and able to compare it to minecraft for us?
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Sep 19, 2014 05:42
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Anias posted:Is anyone in the Everquest landmark thing and able to compare it to minecraft for us? My wife got into the beta for a little bit borrowing a friend's account. So I don't have any serious review of it, but she didn't like it much. It's certainly pretty but they locked everything down super tight. You run around, claim a chunk of land, and become a supreme landlord who can forbid anyone from doing anything in your zone. If you don't log in and pay some in-game currency every single day, the game erases everything you did and makes the plot available to the next person who comes along. Claiming land isn't all bad, griefing in Minecraft can certainly be an issue and it's nice to have fixes, but it makes the world feel very sterile. Everyone's house is equidistant apart and might as well be it's own world for all it integrates with its neighbors. There was also no survival mode that I saw, but that was months ago. It was just creative mode except you had to manually collect building materials.
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Sep 19, 2014 06:29
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Enzer posted:Also gently caress vanilla's lack of decorative building blocks. I was just thinking it would be really good if we could make Japanese houses with paper walls / doors etc. and the correct looking raised floors etc.
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Sep 19, 2014 07:38
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OwlFancier posted:You can be a terrible programmer and still be better at working with a particular program than a skilled programmer. I have no formal training in development yet I am working as a Pro Dev in Java. but whilst I know Java well. (recently passed OCA Exam) but I have no real idea how the minecraft stuff works. as there is no design documents or Flowdiagrams showing how it all fits together. Domain knowledge is the hardest thing to get in any job. more so in programming.
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Sep 19, 2014 07:44
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xzzy posted:Having been through a couple mergers/acquisitions in my day (one of which was a software company), it seems to take about 4-6 months before changes begin in earnest. There's usually some shuffling in upper management right off the bat (especially to replace the new billionaires who are on their way out), but the rank and file workers do okay initially. Then once plans are laid out and the bigger company identifies what people are redundant, that's when people get their pink slips. It may have already started.... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/18/microsoft_layoffs_round_2/
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Sep 19, 2014 07:49
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Anias posted:Is anyone in the Everquest landmark thing and able to compare it to minecraft for us? It's not a lot of fun and voxels aren't the future we were hoping for. It's extremely finicky and buggy with placing down shapes.
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Sep 19, 2014 08:52
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Well goddamn, blockscape has certainly come a long way since last I looked at it  I hope it goes somewhere, while it looks neat for building stuff it could use some polish, also some gameplay as I sort of need block games to have something other than building in them.
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Sep 19, 2014 10:17
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Enzer posted:Also gently caress vanilla's lack of decorative building blocks. I'm sorry to be a bit behind the times, but I took a quick look and couldn't find the answer. Is this just a texture pack, or a mod? Is there a page with more info? These blocks look great.
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Sep 19, 2014 10:35
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thenakedflip posted:I'm sorry to be a bit behind the times, but I took a quick look and couldn't find the answer. Is this just a texture pack, or a mod? Is there a page with more info? These blocks look great. Originally it was just a texture pack and we used a custom bukkit plugin to use unused block meta data to get those in, but now it is an actual mod using CS2, so everything showed has full crafting recipes and such. The mod is unfortunately not publicly available as it was made for the WilsonSMP server and is only available through their custom launcher. If we ever close down the server I will probably do one last update to make sure its available for whatever is the most current version of minecraft and make a public post for it. It is designed to be used with SMP's Revival resource pack and a good number of the block textures shown there are either extra unused textures SMP created/edited versions of his textures or textures I have made. We're a huge fan of SMP's work and I've been slowly adding additional CTM support or animated textures where applicable to the version of the pack we use. Our version is actually about twice the file size of the vanilla pack now because of the additions and alterations. Enzer fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Sep 19, 2014 15:40
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Anias posted:Is anyone in the Everquest landmark thing and able to compare it to minecraft for us? That runs on this http://procworld.blogspot.com/ Which I've posted several times.
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Sep 19, 2014 18:45
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I have to agree with the basic consensus so far: there's a lot of really promising titles out there, and I really hope they can grow beyond just having a pretty world you can place/remove blocks in. Throw in some real gameplay and survival elements and any one of them could be pretty incredible. Also, Custom Stuff 2 is pretty rad overall but as I understand it, it isn't updated yet? I mean there must be some reason it's not super prevalent if it's really as powerful and diverse as it looks, to say nothing of all the possible content packs.
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Sep 19, 2014 20:55
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Anias posted:Is anyone in the Everquest landmark thing and able to compare it to minecraft for us? With all those concerns hanging over you, it kinda kills your motivation to invest a lot of effort into it unless you're a pure solo-builder.
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Sep 19, 2014 21:13
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I find a big part of what makes me prefer Minecraft over other games is the responsiveness of the engine. In Minecraft when you right click you play a block, in many of the clones when you place a block there's often a noticeable lag. It may not be much lag between action and response but I find it enough to be a severe detriment to play.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:21
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Vib Rib posted:Also, Custom Stuff 2 is pretty rad overall but as I understand it, it isn't updated yet? I mean there must be some reason it's not super prevalent if it's really as powerful and diverse as it looks, to say nothing of all the possible content packs. It's at 1.7.10 right now. I don't think any mod is going to be up to 1.8 this soon after the release. CS2 is not super prevalent because it's a toolkit, not something you can run right out of the box. Plus it only really does mostly cosmetic stuff, you can't define new mechanics or even do ranged weaponry (last I checked, anyway). The integration isn't as seamless as it could potentially be, I remember adding some new crops and they didn't get the little glimmer effect when you put bonemeal on them. Mind you, I had to set it like this: onBonemeal[0] = "world.setBlockMetadata(position, 2);"; There's been a bunch of stuff added to the mod since I started toying around with it, I've made a few suggestions (some which even got implemented) but there's still a lot it just can't do. Like, if I wanted to divide up armours into "heavy" which reduced movement speed and knockback, and "light" which gave less protection but didn't hamper movement speed - no go. There's no way I can do that in CS2. But if I go out, learn Java, make me own mod - I could do that. Which is why, I think, people don't go nuts for CS2. Not just because of the trouble in putting together your own stuff, but because existing mods alter the game way more. They add in nukes, or crazy-rear end portals to weird places, or insane magic designed by an idiot, or hundreds of poorly-conceived creatures, or catgirl maids. CS2 does... blocks, mostly. Blocks and items. It's great for adding to vanilla, it's just not so great at changing the flavour.
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Digital War posted:I find a big part of what makes me prefer Minecraft over other games is the responsiveness of the engine. In Minecraft when you right click you play a block, in many of the clones when you place a block there's often a noticeable lag. It may not be much lag between action and response but I find it enough to be a severe detriment to play. I also have this issue, minecraft in general is quite sharp, reminds me of half life a lot, that really crisp feeling you get with older engines and less so with modern ones. I don't like that a lot of the clones feel very floaty and unresponsive.
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E: Sorry, CS2 coming up in this thread has made me talk too much modding; I'll move it to the other thread.
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Sep 20, 2014 02:45
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I think EQ landmark is a great tool that's being improperly used and if they set up the way claims and materials worked differently and maybe even had instances and large-scale terrain building they could have an amazing creation system.
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Sep 20, 2014 03:59
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You shall not pass! I might do Wrath of Bong next. ewe2 fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Sep 21, 2014 |
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Sep 21, 2014 02:57
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1.8 has introduced lag into my single-player world. Like, I'll mine a block and it'll take a second or two to disappear. Reducing video options and setting Java priority to high makes it happen less often, but that it's happening at all in a single-player game makes Minecraft unplayable for me. What a bag of poo poo.
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mr sad posted:1.8 has introduced lag into my single-player world. Like, I'll mine a block and it'll take a second or two to disappear. I still haven't seen any explanation for why this is. I submitted the bug during testing and it was brushed off as an old issue, which is BS to me because I have never had this problem before.
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I was getting that with 1.8 as well, but I sorted it out eventually. I strongly suspect it's related to garbage collection somehow, or at any rate the problem actually gets worse if the VM has more memory allocated to it. At least that's what I've observed. Don't use custom arguments to java, or at least don't gently caress with the default memory settings. Also don't raise the render distance above 16, even though it lets you now. Also, if you've got a monitor capable of more than 60 frames/sec, lower the limit back to 60. And use Java 7. Kilroy fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Sep 21, 2014 |
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people have been saying it's a result of creeper and other mobs pathfinding ai, so try playing on peaceful if you haven't yet. of course, im one of the lucky ones who has seen nothing but performance improvements in 1.8, so idk
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Actually now I'm not having trouble with higher framerates and render distances. I can still get the issue to reappear though, along with periodic lag, by allocating more memory to the VM. You could improve performance of 1.7 by giving it more memory, but it seems that doing the same with 1.8 will give negative results.
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Kilroy posted:You could improve performance of 1.7 by giving it more memory, but it seems that doing the same with 1.8 will give negative results. This could be a generic Java bug report for any java application for what it's worth. Java is essentially goldilocks with regard to memory. Anias fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Sep 21, 2014 |
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Sep 21, 2014 12:16
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What 'destroys' an underwater fortress for spawning purposes? I want to steal as much of the structural prismatine as I can but I also want to keep the Guardians spawning.
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MikeJF posted:What 'destroys' an underwater fortress for spawning purposes? I want to steal as much of the structural prismatine as I can but I also want to keep the Guardians spawning. Nothing will destroy it, you can level it all and they'll still spawn, it's sort of a biome thing, like witch huts and nether fortresses.
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wyoming posted:Nothing will destroy it, you can level it all and they'll still spawn, it's sort of a biome thing, like witch huts and nether fortresses. Sexy, time to turn the spawning space into a cobble box.
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Sep 21, 2014 14:55
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Vib Rib posted:I really hope he didn't actually pass away. I was emailing him before about doing sound design for him, I'll send him something, asking what's up.
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Sep 22, 2014 02:27
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Dear Microsoft now that you own Minecraft can you please make it so boats don't break, ever, for any reason, because it's loving stupid and nobody likes it or has ever liked it.
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Sep 22, 2014 09:32
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boat + iron = reinforced boat, tada, give me 20 billion dollar please
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Sep 22, 2014 12:38
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Minecart + water = boat, also still minecart so you can drive out of the lake and onto a track, or add a log flume to your rollercoaster.
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horse mans posted:boat + iron = reinforced boat, tada, give me 20 billion dollar please Until you hit ice.
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Sep 22, 2014 14:23
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Hobo By Design posted:Until you hit ice. Then it's Minecraft: Tokyo Drift.
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xzzy posted:Then it's Minecraft: Tokyo Drift. No, then you put the "Nearer, My God, to Thee" record into the jukebox.
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xzzy posted:Then it's Minecraft: Tokyo Drift. Back when saddles were first put into the game, if you could manage to get a pig on ice it would go berserk and zoom around. Back when you'd just have to spawn an a snowy ice world by chance. 
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Sep 22, 2014 20:04
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wyoming posted:Back when saddles were first put into the game, if you could manage to get a pig on ice it would go berserk and zoom around. Oh my god, I had completely forgotten about how ice worlds used to be a thing.
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It's pretty bullshit that you still can't craft saddles.
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Eric the Mauve posted:It's pretty bullshit that you still can't craft saddles. Seriously, what the hell else are you going to use leather for?
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Speedball posted:Seriously, what the hell else are you going to use leather for? Making a full walk-in closet full of sets of leather armor dyed every different possible color. And multiple enchanting stations fully upgraded with bookshelves. And book n quills full of Creeper x EnderMite fanfic.
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