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Magnus Gallant posted:Merks definitely town after that If I'm left alive, irrational merk fear will bubble up and someone will say it was a gambit in about 3 game days. I'll probably get lynched with no case.
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 22:39 |
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# ? May 2, 2024 21:46 |
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merk posted:If I'm left alive, irrational merk fear will bubble up and someone will say it was a gambit in about 3 game days. I'll probably get lynched with no case. There's no such thing as irrational merk fear.
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 22:44 |
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3 game days? How about 3 game minutes. I'm on to you merk!
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 22:44 |
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Magnus Gallant posted:There's no such thing as irrational merk fear. The fear is rational
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 22:44 |
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I'll say it's a gambit now
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 22:48 |
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Tremendous Taste posted:I'll say it's a gambit now At least that's out of the way.
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 22:49 |
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Rarity and merk are scum. Gg
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:19 |
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Rascyc posted:Yeah I don't see the contradiction you're asking me. If you look at my original post, I said I used both the average number that would need to be deposited: my 5 being just shy of that number, which was 6.75, or 7 if you want to round up, you can argue what constitutes shy I guess, but give me some benefit of the doubt I am capable of some elementary math. I kind of get that you are going for my choice of words "pretty good" to graduate a case on me into compelling but you are assuming I was using some relative distances between numbers as many only thought process (which I laid out in my original posts as straight forward as possible I thought). Scum.
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:27 |
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Why would you ever volunteer as the last person without any discussion in thread at all if you are only going to contribute 75% of the average needed to pass the check?
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:28 |
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I figured 21 would be doable for the other three. Seeing what my highest point value is. That's why I figured 6 was fine. 5 is pushing it. we got very lucky this challenge
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:29 |
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merk posted:Why would you ever volunteer as the last person without any discussion in thread at all if you are only going to contribute 75% of the average needed to pass the check? Merk, I like your thought process, but one thing about it is stopping me from voting Rascyc. Why would he, as scum, claim 5?
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:31 |
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Hi. I'm at work / busy day / deadline in Beard Mafia. I'll read and contribute tomorrow morning AEST. Thanks.
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:31 |
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apostateCourier posted:Merk, I like your thought process, but one thing about it is stopping me from voting Rascyc. Why would he, as scum, claim 5? At the time we thought we'd lost the challenge. If he'd claimed higher than 5 then we might have ended up over 27 and then it would be obvious someone was lying.
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:33 |
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apostateCourier posted:Merk, I like your thought process, but one thing about it is stopping me from voting Rascyc. Why would he, as scum, claim 5? He figured we'd have a total of 26 or 25, and he could throw out some WIFOM that everyone was Town but we just failed at contributing enough. He claimed 5 after we "failed" the challenge.
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:33 |
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merk posted:I just realized what you did. That's a pretty lovely / game-breaking way to confirm me as Town. This post makes absolutely no sense given what you claimed to be assuming. At this point, you stated that: 1) you had not received a PM and 2) you were assuming that aC had volunteered and had also not received a PM. If this were true, then the fact that neither of you had received PMs would not confirm or break anything at all since it could be assumed that any scum in the challenge also would not have received PMs. Seems like you thought you had a good way to claim confirmed town, then once you realised that the logic didn't make sense (quite apart from the fact that aC hadn't volunteered) you backpedalled on it. Otherwise I just cannot get my head around what you were thinking with this post.
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:36 |
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Kerro posted:If this were true, then the fact that neither of you had received PMs would not confirm or break anything at all since it could be assumed that any scum in the challenge also would not have received PMs. Scum who didn't receive a PM (and didn't get any points from the challenge) wouldn't know whether Town received PMs (who did get points from the challenge). It's a perfect way to have confirmed two people in the challenge as Town based on mod actions if my assumptions were actually correct.
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:41 |
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Oh okay that reasoning makes sense. Seems like there are a whole lot of assumptions you'd have to make to reach the conclusion that this scenario was game breaking though. Maybe the sort of assumptions you'd want to check.
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:54 |
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Rarity posted:Firstly, 5 is nowhere near 1/4 of 27. Now you saying that you assumed people could contribute enough to make up for it doesn't vibe with this at all. ##vote Rarity "sevenths"
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:55 |
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Gonna go with ##vote Capitalist Scum
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:56 |
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Lumpen posted:##vote Rarity Huh?
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:57 |
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Kerro posted:Seems like there are a whole lot of assumptions you'd have to make to reach the conclusion that this scenario was game breaking though. Maybe the sort of assumptions you'd want to check. What's the purpose of these last two sentences, especially the last sentence? Are you just bashing me for being wrong or does this have anything to do with alignment?
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# ? Sep 25, 2014 23:58 |
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I'm seeing two possible scenarios here (well 3, but the third one seems pretty improbable). 1) Rascyc is scum, contributes way too little in the hopes that town fails the challenge but he can still claim to have helped. Especially since we didn't know (I don't think?) whether the total score would be revealed. merk/Rarity are probably town but could be bussing. 2) Rascyc is town, makes a bad play. Scum have an awesome opportunity to jump on a townie with a highly defensible case, and one of tt/Rarity/merk is scum. Probably merk due to weird backpedalling around the PMs thing. 3) Both Rascyc and merk are town, I spend the rest of the game being suspicious of townies who just screwed up. Scum find the whole situation hilarious.
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 00:03 |
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merk posted:What's the purpose of these last two sentences, especially the last sentence? Are you just bashing me for being wrong or does this have anything to do with alignment? Just an overly wordy way of saying I don't buy it.
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 00:05 |
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Kerro posted:Just an overly wordy way of saying I don't buy it. Does that come with a vote or just toothless overwording?
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 00:08 |
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I already voted you?
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 00:10 |
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This has been a great game for me so far.
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 00:15 |
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Kerro posted:I'm seeing two possible scenarios here (well 3, but the third one seems pretty improbable). It was never revealed how many points were sent in. Just that we passed.
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 00:19 |
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Mills posted:Hi. I'm at work / busy day / deadline in Beard Mafia. I'll read and contribute tomorrow morning AEST. Thanks. i have also been horribly busy all day. this will get my attention when i get home.
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 01:10 |
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Magnus Gallant posted:It was never revealed how many points were sent in. Just that we passed. Yeah I know, but I don't think we knew before the challenge that that was going to be the case, unless I missed something?
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 01:22 |
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Mr Tastee posted:Gonna go with ##vote Capitalist Scum Literally made three posts. One sign up for the game One confirmation and this ##vote tasteecakes
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 01:31 |
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CapitalistPig posted:Literally made three posts. You should post more
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 01:37 |
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CapitalistPig posted:Literally made three posts. Second post being a confirmation is shady to me.
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 01:50 |
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Propaganda Machine posted:i have also been horribly busy all day. this will get my attention when i get home. Regardless of whether you're at work or at home, if you can post a message like this, you can post an actual response. These types of messages in Mafia are absolutely pointless.
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 03:00 |
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Harold Krell posted:Regardless of whether you're at work or at home, if you can post a message like this, you can post an actual response. These types of messages in Mafia are absolutely pointless. bullshit. i can't access pms from my phone, and i wanted to be able to take a look at my own stats before i jumped on the train of casing people based on contribution to the challenge, or lack thereof. i'd rather let people know i'm reading and keeping up than just being totally awol, especially when this game has been so ACTION-PACKED.
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 06:35 |
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oh hey, now that i look at it, literally your only contribution since 'confirmed' was that little gem. i think that makes you even less productive than tastee. anyway, i'm in the camp that just doesn't understand why rascyc would be so eager to claim his meager contribution if he was scum. something about that doesn't sit right. then again, he's been both offering and denying more information than anybody has asked of him, which isn't quite sitting right. i don't even with merk. and i'd raise an eyebrow at rarity's aggression, but the numbers did add up, but there were compelling enough arguments for scum to want to pass the first couple of these, so it's turning real wifom real fast with her.
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 06:51 |
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Votecount for Day 1 Rascyc (2): Tremendous Taste, Rarity, merk, Mr Tastee (2): Rarity, merk (1): Kerro Magnus Gallant (1): Tremendous Taste Rarity (1): Lumpen Kerro (1): MEDS CURE SCHIZOS Not Voting (7): apostateCourier, Harold Krell, Magnus Gallant, Mills, Opopanax, Propaganda Machine, Rascyc With 15 alive, it's 8 votes to lynch. The current deadline is September 29th, 2014 at 7 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 3 days, 9 hours.
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 15:30 |
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Harold Krell posted:Regardless of whether you're at work or at home, if you can post a message like this, you can post an actual response. These types of messages in Mafia are absolutely pointless. Do you think he's scum then?
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 15:32 |
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Can a mod please explain what Wildcard point and Anti-point are?
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 15:33 |
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Merk, give me a believable reason why ras didn't just go "I put in 7". Why give a low number and draw attention?
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 15:33 |
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merk posted:He figured we'd have a total of 26 or 25, and he could throw out some WIFOM that everyone was Town but we just failed at contributing enough. He claimed 5 after we "failed" the challenge.
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# ? Sep 26, 2014 15:34 |