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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



remember when the germans "owned" the greeks withth their economic policies? i do.

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Lichy posted:

laughing at all the people in the thread who think humans have fundamental rights beyond those that have been assigned them by the biggest bully on the block

in europe germany pretty muc his the biggest on the block

Kyrie eleison
Jan 26, 2013

by Ralp

ChairmanMeow posted:

the people that were going to do this were going to do it anyway. the new law won't make people start humping adult siblings. I agree sexual issues with no victim (every one is over age) is not something for the law or jails.
*I don't have a sister

i think legalizing things does actually encourage people to do them that otherwise would not have

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax
Reminder that "the prohibition" actually worked

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
the victim is society.

Kyrie eleison
Jan 26, 2013

by Ralp

butplug accident posted:

Reminder that "the prohibition" actually worked

not in stopping drinking altogether, but it likely stopped a lot of drinking that otherwise would have occurred

Torka
Jan 5, 2008

Kyrie eleison posted:

i think legalizing things does actually encourage people to do them that otherwise would not have

probably in the case of drugs, where their being illegal makes them kind of a hassle to obtain and legalization makes it much easier

but law changes re. sex acts don't make those kinds of sex any more or less accessible to people than they were before

Kyrie eleison
Jan 26, 2013

by Ralp

Torka posted:

probably in the case of drugs, where their being illegal makes them kind of a hassle to obtain and legalization makes it much easier

but law changes re. sex acts don't make those kinds of sex any more or less accessible to people than they were before

it means you no longer have to keep it a secret. there can be incest advocacy groups where people admit to having incestual relationships now. even actually incestual porn

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
give me one good reason i cant flick my great auntie's throbbing bean consensually

Torka
Jan 5, 2008

Kyrie eleison posted:

it means you no longer have to keep it a secret. there can be incest advocacy groups where people admit to having incestual relationships now. even actually incestual porn

you'll still have to keep it secret from the vast majority of people because legalization won't stop incest from being viewed as something a hosed up weirdo does

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Kyrie eleison posted:

not in stopping drinking altogether, but it likely stopped a lot of drinking that otherwise would have occurred

nah it didn't though. depends on how much money you had of course (the poorer you were the harder it was to get alcohol so yes for the poorest people it cut down drinking) but it increased drinking frequency for most people

it actually became a super hip thing to do amongst the middle class

people like doing taboo poo poo, when it isn't taboo suddenly it isn't cool anymore.

Kyrie eleison
Jan 26, 2013

by Ralp

Torka posted:

you'll still have to keep it secret from the vast majority of people because legalization won't stop incest from being viewed as something a hosed up weirdo does

until cultural shift makes opposing incest turn you into a bigot who should be fired

Torka
Jan 5, 2008

Kyrie eleison posted:

until cultural shift makes opposing incest turn you into a bigot who should be fired

idk, prostitution was legalized in my country over 10 years ago and yet is still seen as no less seedy or shameful to participate in. you still can't tell your parents you're a sex worker

Kyrie eleison
Jan 26, 2013

by Ralp

Torka posted:

idk, prostitution was legalized in my country over 10 years ago and yet is still seen as no less seedy or shameful to participate in. you still can't tell your parents you're a sex worker

prostitution is different. but there has been an active ideological movement to enforce sympathy for 'sex workers' while condemning those who purchase their services.

incest is a case of romeo & juliet except theyre both montagues lol

Torka
Jan 5, 2008

haha

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Moridin920 posted:

nah it didn't though. depends on how much money you had of course (the poorer you were the harder it was to get alcohol so yes for the poorest people it cut down drinking) but it increased drinking frequency for most people

it actually became a super hip thing to do amongst the middle class

people like doing taboo poo poo, when it isn't taboo suddenly it isn't cool anymore.

[citation needed]

Above Our Own
Jun 24, 2009

by Shine

quote:

Criminal law is not the appropriate means to preserve a social taboo
Agree with this tbqh

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Kyrie eleison posted:

incest is a case of romeo & juliet except theyre both montagues lol

ahahaha

Kyrie eleison
Jan 26, 2013

by Ralp
are you the sort of bigot who gets angry when your son & daughter confess they are in love now and are going to get married

or your two sons, who are gay lovers now evidently

or all six of your sons and daughters sleeping together in one glorious incestual polygamous bed

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
so long as theyre not hurting anyone but god, kyrie eleison

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Orkin Mang posted:

so long as theyre not hurting anyone but god, kyrie eleison

they hurt their community by weakening family bonds

Kyrie eleison
Jan 26, 2013

by Ralp
a tv sitcom where some 18 girl is married to her dad and of course they only started sleeping together after her latest birthday *wink wink* and they have to confront a bunch of fundies throwing bibles at them and there is a nice opening theme showing happy smiles and fun times and a song about how people are different but all fundamentally the same

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Kyrie eleison posted:

a tv sitcom where some 18 girl is married to her dad and of course they only started sleeping together after her latest birthday *wink wink* and they have to confront a bunch of fundies throwing bibles at them and there is a nice opening theme showing happy smiles and fun times and a song about how people are different but all fundamentally the same

lets call it das modern family 2

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Kyrie eleison posted:

a tv sitcom where some 18 girl is married to her dad and of course they only started sleeping together after her latest birthday *wink wink* and they have to confront a bunch of fundies throwing bibles at them and there is a nice opening theme showing happy smiles and fun times and a song about how people are different but all fundamentally the same

that we're all fundamentally the same is a sentimental superstitious hangover we inherited from a dead religious tradition, it doesnt interest me, the willful explosion of the energies that storm inside the individual is the only good beyond all good and evil

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
The Aristocrats

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Miltank posted:

[citation needed]

alcohol consumption rose during prohibition following a short lived decrease at the start

the google

it is so hard

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/History/e1920/chicagodeaths.htm

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-157.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_during_and_after_prohibition posted:

Prohibition proved to be counterproductive in that it promoted the heavy and rapid consumption of alcohol in secretive, nonsocially regulated and controlled ways.

Plus it caused increase use of opiates, heroin, and cocaine. If the objective was to reduce drinking, the Prohibition failed miserably - and also had the side benefit of kickstarting organised crime in the USA.


Also,

Kyrie eleison posted:

prostitution is different...

incest is a case of romeo & juliet except theyre both montagues lol

lol what. people don't disapprove of incest because it is illegal, they disapprove because of actual psychological reasons that don't just disappear when incest is legal

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Sep 28, 2014

Kombotron
Aug 11, 2011
my hot sister

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

spraying nut syrup on my sister's neck, chest and chin proudly

Slush Garbo
Nov 20, 2007

FALSE SLACK
is
BETTER
than
NO SLACK
goons shipping family members itt

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



[ASK] Me what it's like to carry a printer in the rain for my cousin and only getting a hug in return

fuck off Batman
Oct 14, 2013

Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah!


Miltank posted:

they hurt their community by weakening family bonds

Incest is an activity a whole family can enjoy, so it actually strengthens family bonds.

The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster
Wow, lots of creepy goons ITT. Straighten those family trees, eh? Looking forward to grooming second wives spawned off of the first? Thought Woody Allen had the right idea but didn't go far enough?

you irl
Jan 22, 2014

The Snark posted:

Wow, lots of creepy goons ITT. Straighten those family trees, eh? Looking forward to grooming second wives spawned off of the first? Thought Woody Allen had the right idea but didn't go far enough?

yes, yes, and no he's done enough movies featuring himself he needs to stick to directing others

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax
If you're pro-gay it's because you want to gently caress dudes since you're a gay. If you're pro-incest you want to gently caress your sister. Also if you're pro-abortion you want to get 100 abortions just for laughs basically

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen

butplug accident posted:

If you're pro-gay it's because you want to gently caress dudes since you're a gay. If you're pro-incest you want to gently caress your sister. Also if you're pro-abortion you want to get 100 abortions just for laughs basically

this but unironically

The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster

butplug accident posted:

If you're pro-gay it's because you want to gently caress dudes since you're a gay. If you're pro-incest you want to gently caress your sister. Also if you're pro-abortion you want to get 100 abortions just for laughs basically

Here's a big problem with incest that can't be dismissed as being basically eugenics.

It's not comparable to just two adults who want to gently caress in most cases. Exceptions apply because there are, say, adoptees who meet each other later on- and while even then it's pretty disgusting personally it is not something that can be reasonably punished legally.

However, if it became considered legal as a whole I am not so optimistic as to believe foolish/disgusting people would be beyond grooming younger siblings or even their own children to be future fuckbuddies. To prove they did would probably be quite difficult so as long as they're willing to wait until they hit majority before going public- huzzah!

One would hope social censure would be enough to discourage it, but I can't say I believe it. Not when there seem to be plenty of loathsome folk on the internet who get excited from the idea as it is.

Date outside of the family, is it really THAT HARD for you to leave the house? Also keep in mind even should it be legal, without that grooming they probably wouldn't want to touch your stank bits anyway. There are inbuilt biological deterrents and you are probably an awful person for other reasons. Additionally.

The Snark fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Sep 28, 2014

The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster
Seriously, the gently caress is wrong with you unironic defenders. The lot of you deserve special titles for your posts here, I shouldn't have had to type that out for anyone.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

The Snark posted:

Seriously, the gently caress is wrong with you unironic defenders. The lot of you deserve special titles for your posts here, I shouldn't have had to type that out for anyone.

Agreed. If siblings separated by adoption meet and gently caress later in life, they should be executed as pedophiles.

NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011
sjws defending sister loving, well this has been fun, gotta go.

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The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster

Effectronica posted:

Agreed. If siblings separated by adoption meet and gently caress later in life, they should be executed as pedophiles.

Reread. Try again. THAT is an exception I addressed myself.

Consider you may be an idiot defending the indefensible.

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