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t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

"That would be bad" is not a protection against what appears to be


Unless you think there are 4 town violence specialists out of 12 townies

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t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

We have 3 claimed diplo, 4 claimed violence, 3 claimed tech, 3 claimed intelligence

What do you think is an explanation for this

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


If I were making this setup I sure as hell wouldn't do 3/3/3/3/3 like that

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Probably exactly this.

But whatever, I'm not going to be sad if we kill betrayer, and if it winds up confirming me so be it

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Rarity posted:

Not even close. There are two possibilities:

1) Your highest score is 8 or 9 so you think it's ok to volunteer with 5. In that case you wouldn't think 5 was 'pretty good'.

2) Your highest score is 7 or less in which case 5 is pretty good but you wouldn't want to risk submitting it for a total of 27 from 4 people.

Whatever your highest score is, your stated thought processes don't follow a logical town reasoning.

This is a suspicious post. Does anyone have 9 anything? I don't.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Tremendous Taste posted:

This is a suspicious post.
Don't let any of those straws get away! Grasp at each and every one!

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Why are you so against active scumhunting? It's weird.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Tremendous Taste posted:

Why are you so against active scumhunting? It's weird.
You could maybe scumhunt on one of the three people we know has a scum among them.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Tremendous Taste posted:

Why are you so against active scumhunting? It's weird.

What you're doing isn't scumhunting, you're just making mechanic based cases and drawing people away from the confirmed scum we have in a small group of people

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
I'm reading/rereading AC's posts, and I feel like there's a lot of white noise in her Day 1. But honestly, if I'd been here from the start, I'd definitely have been feeling town on AC on D1. The comparison to Resistance and talk about the first challenge feel good on a gut read. From the point of my switch-in, it gets more hazy. There's more arguments, everything feels a bit more baseless. But reading the whole thread, with everything in context? Yeah, some of it's bad, but there's someone who's been much worse.

Someone who made really lazy cases, who was also on the failed challenge... and who replaced out of literally every game they were in. :doh:

##unvote

Rules Question for Somber: If we vote to lynch Merk before the end of today, what happens, RE: finding or not finding a replacement? I'm wondering if we should just wait and hunt elsewhere, and see if dawn of D3 brings with it a Merk modkill. But that feels... like gaming the system? But so does voting someone who isn't here.

So I'm kind of stuck.

##vote Merk until we figure out how this is working.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Yall are seriously dense on this.

There are a great number of potential scum combinations in the failed situations. You acknowledge this and then fail to drag that over into the lynch candidates.

If you're going to play spec on alignment, follow the logic that bears me out. If you want to "play mafia" look for posts and attitudes and behaviors that seem illogical or inconsistent

Just loving do something other than hide behind a flimsy correlation that you acknowledge is so

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Poison Mushroom posted:

I'm reading/rereading AC's posts, and I feel like there's a lot of white noise in her Day 1. But honestly, if I'd been here from the start, I'd definitely have been feeling town on AC on D1. The comparison to Resistance and talk about the first challenge feel good on a gut read. From the point of my switch-in, it gets more hazy. There's more arguments, everything feels a bit more baseless. But reading the whole thread, with everything in context? Yeah, some of it's bad, but there's someone who's been much worse.

Someone who made really lazy cases, who was also on the failed challenge... and who replaced out of literally every game they were in. :doh:

##unvote

Rules Question for Somber: If we vote to lynch Merk before the end of today, what happens, RE: finding or not finding a replacement? I'm wondering if we should just wait and hunt elsewhere, and see if dawn of D3 brings with it a Merk modkill. But that feels... like gaming the system? But so does voting someone who isn't here.

So I'm kind of stuck.

##vote Merk until we figure out how this is working.

Like what the gently caress is this? This is pointless and lovely and you admit it

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

How to play this game competently as scum:

- rotate in and out to smokescreen failures

- actively direct suspicion on people in multiple challenges

- dismiss talk of stats and setup spec

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop
Someone link Soru's original game and we can just look at how the setup was done there.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Lumpen posted:

Someone link Soru's original game and we can just look at how the setup was done there.

I'd rather not, that seems cheating

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Active players, would lynch

Opop
Pmush
Rar


Lurkers, would lynch

Betrayer
Krell

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:
Okay, I've been very busy at my career for the past two (2) days, and I've just barely glazed over what has happened during that time span. Apparently, people are claiming their numerical stats which seem to be this game format's form of role, so at this point, I'd like to ask why this type of role claiming is being done at this point in the game?

Like I said, I have only perused the thread since I have been away from my career, so please do not take this as me playing dumb. I will have time later today to get a little more insight concerning the challenges and the numerical stats, so I may be able to solve this mystery on my own, but this still may take some discernible time.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Harold Krell posted:

Okay, I've been very busy at my career for the past two (2) days, and I've just barely glazed over what has happened during that time span. Apparently, people are claiming their numerical stats which seem to be this game format's form of role, so at this point, I'd like to ask why this type of role claiming is being done at this point in the game?

Like I said, I have only perused the thread since I have been away from my career, so please do not take this as me playing dumb. I will have time later today to get a little more insight concerning the challenges and the numerical stats, so I may be able to solve this mystery on my own, but this still may take some discernible time.

Numerical stats were claimed to check progress of the challenge.

What I'm asking for is a role name claim because in a game of 15 I've figured 4 groups have 3 towns each =12. Scum will be free agents, so any group claiming more than 3 has a scum.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?

Poison Mushroom posted:

Rules Question for Somber: If we vote to lynch Merk before the end of today, what happens, RE: finding or not finding a replacement? I'm wondering if we should just wait and hunt elsewhere, and see if dawn of D3 brings with it a Merk modkill. But that feels... like gaming the system? But so does voting someone who isn't here.

Hello! This is a fair question and something I should address.

There is a distinct possibility that merk, Tastee, and possibly Meds will have to be modkilled. I will continue to beg people to replace in, but I do not imagine I will be able to fill all three spots. I understand this creates a gamespace that is difficult for all players to navigate, unfortunately I do not see any immediate way to address that issue. You may all vote these players as normal, whether or not you want to risk them being modkilled instead is the thread's collective choice.

As to whether or not you are allowed to view the game this is based off, Quantum Leap by soru, that is your own prerogative. It is not a factor I could in any way police or enforce, so I leave the decision up to whether or not you want to put in that effort. I do not have the link on hand and do not feel particularly compelled to pull it up, but the setup documents were no longer available when I created this game. The lack of detailed information necessitated improvisation and a certain amount of variance in my design, so I do not feel that it is possible to out-and-out break the game.

I don't generally like to talk in games that I am moderating as they are ongoing, but I feel like these two points merit clarification. Good luck and thanks for playing!

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
Crossover from Mafia Discussion Thread...

This game was just unfortunately timed, I think. A lot of people are burning out on Mafia, many others (including myself) are getting a bit too busy for it, and there have been a bunch of non-traditional games recently so even if people are keen to play, they're getting a bit wacked out in the head trying to navigate each new game and its weirdo-awesome rules.

I don't sign up for things I'm not willing or able to stick with through the end. Obviously, whatever happens with those three will have an impact on the game, so I'm just going to cool my heels until we know stuff about them and their roles one way or the other.

Anyway, even if this game ends up being a bust, Somberbrero was very upfront about its experimental nature, and I really appreciate how the challenges have really driven early maneuvering and scumhunting. That's cool.

...

okay screw that back to mafia

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 2

Poison Mushroom (4): Opopanax, apostateCourier, apostateCourier, merk, apostateCourier, apostateCourier, CapitalistPig, Opopanax, Opopanax, apostateCourier, Propaganda Machine, Opopanax, Propaganda Machine, Lumpen, merk, merk, Rascyc, Lumpen
MEDS CURE SCHIZOS (2): Tremendous Taste, Lumpen
merk (1): CapitalistPig, Lumpen, apostateCourier, apostateCourier, CapitalistPig, Lumpen, Poison Mushroom
apostateCourier (0): merk, Propaganda Machine, merk, Propaganda Machine, Poison Mushroom, Poison Mushroom

Not Voting (6): Harold Krell, MEDS CURE SCHIZOS, Mr Tastee, Opopanax, Propaganda Machine, Rarity

With 13 alive, it's 7 votes to lynch. The current deadline is October 02nd, 2014 at 7 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 7 hours, 52 minutes.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


##vote mushroom

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
##vote Pmush

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop
##vote poison mushroom
:redhammer:

Moving on.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?
Once Poison Mushroom realizes she’s cornered, she leans back in her chair and lights a cigarette. She pauses a moment, before announcing “Yeah, nice guess guys. I’m with W.A.S.T.E. Good call, I really thought I might get away with it for a while there.”

Everyone stares blankly at her, until someone speaks up. “That’s it? Aren’t you going to attack us or anything?”

Poison Mushroom chuckles, “Why would I bother? Every one of you is already dead. You have no idea what’s coming next.”

Without warning, as Poison goes to take another drag, she explodes. Apparently Cyprus was monitoring the situation room and decided enough was enough. Poison’s cigarette lands neatly on the table and goes out a few minutes later as the sun fades from the sky.



Poison Mushrom, “Veldt,” W.A.S.T.E. Aligned Violence Specialist was killed day two!


Night actions.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?
As you wake up and check the C.O.U.R.I.E.R. messaging interface, you are greeted with horrible news. Last night was a complete catastrophe for C.O.U.R.I.E.R., but you don’t have time to even begin contemplating your loss as urgent reports start flooding in from Egypt.

merk, “Turing,” C.O.U.R.I.E.R. Aligned Tech Specialist died night two!

Rarity, “Descartes,” C.O.U.R.I.E.R. Aligned Tech Specialist died night two!

Mister Tastee, “Fifty-One,” C.O.U.R.I.E.R. Aligned Diplomacy Specialist was modkilled!

Savahontas has replaced MEDS CURE SCHIZOS!



Challenge #5

The fourteen pyramids of Abusir have risen up on great spindly metal legs, scuttling across the sands like spiders, while firing intricate patterns from the death-rays mounted on their pyramidion as they march towards civilization. It is awesome and terrifying, the signature of W.A.S.T.E.

:siren: This is a violence challenge. :siren: It will take 19 violence points to destroy the pyramids before they can do any real damage.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Fresh out of violence, sorry yall


also YIKES megadeath

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 3



Not Voting (9): apostateCourier, CapitalistPig, Harold Krell, Lumpen, MEDS CURE SCHIZOS, Opopanax, Propaganda Machine, Rascyc, Tremendous Taste

With 9 alive, it's 5 votes to lynch. The current deadline is October 08th, 2014 at 8 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 2 days, 4 hours.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Oh my. I'm all out of violence. I also forget everything about this game since we had a 4 day night so remind me who I think is scum

apostateCourier
Oct 9, 2012


I only have two points of violence.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Claims

Violence:

- TT
- Opop
- Meds/Savahontas
- Magnus


Intelligence:

-Lumpen
-Pmush LIAR


Tech:

-Kerro
- Merk
- Rar



Diplomacy:

- AC
- Pig
- Ras
- Tastee


Not claimed, alive:

Krell. Has to be intelligence.
PMach. Has to be intelligence.



Cleared: Lumpen, Krell, Pmach. Taste clears himself.

:siren: Scum are one of AC/Pig/Ras and one of Opop/Sava :siren:

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Doesn't mushroom being a violence specialist completely gently caress your bad theory?

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop
##Vote Savahontas

Betrayer should be blacklisted, sadly.

apostateCourier
Oct 9, 2012


Opopanax posted:

Doesn't mushroom being a violence specialist completely gently caress your bad theory?

Why would it? The idea of town having an even spread still makes sense.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


How does town having an even spread account for the 15th player?

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Opopanax posted:

Doesn't mushroom being a violence specialist completely gently caress your bad theory?

No because the other scum lied about being violence



Opopanax posted:

How does town having an even spread account for the 15th player?

Come onnnnn

12 town = 4 groups of 3 town
3 scum = 3 scum between 4 groups

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

In that chart I'm not saying it's what they are, I'm saying it's what they claimed. Independent of any powers or characteristics, there are only X number of Town specialists in any given power. When X+1 appears, there is a scum there.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

anyway ##vote opop

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Right, but it still hinges on three people in each speciality, which doesn't work

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t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Opopanax posted:

Right, but it still hinges on three people in each speciality, which doesn't work

three town. the scum can be whatever

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