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Bad Moon posted:There's only one left Are you forgetting Thea? She's still alive, and she's technically still a Queen.
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The Lord Bude posted:Are you forgetting Thea? She's still alive, and she's technically still a Queen. Also baby Queen.
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Oct 1, 2014 05:05
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bobkatt013 posted:Also baby Queen. I forgot about baby queen...Prince Queen?
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Oct 1, 2014 05:15
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Thea Queen was weak.  Thea Queen is no more. (And babby Queen is a Hawke, most likely)
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The Lord Bude posted:I forgot about baby queen...Prince Queen? Connor Queen. Thea Queen you have failed the queens.
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Oct 1, 2014 05:16
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The Lord Bude posted:Are you forgetting Thea? She's still alive, and she's technically still a Queen. She may as well be Thea Merlyn right now and it rules 
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Oct 1, 2014 07:51
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I hope Thea becomes a bullshit ninja between series so we can once again have a Killer Queen.
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Oct 1, 2014 08:33
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dordreff posted:I hope Thea becomes a bullshit ninja between series so we can once again have a Killer Queen. The trailers have her doing training stuff with a sword, so presumably her subplot to begin with will be Malcolm teaching her how to be a badass.
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Gaz-L posted:The trailers have her doing training stuff with a sword, so presumably her subplot to begin with will be Malcolm teaching her how to be a badass. "Theatricality and deception are powerful tools." *throws a spike heel like a shuriken* I kid, this is gonna be awesome.
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Oct 1, 2014 17:41
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Nerd time! Down as gently caress with Felicity being the new Oracle. I've been saying from the beginning that's where they were going. It's called Mirakuru as a play on Miraclo, the drug Hourman uses to juice up for crimefightin'. Laurel is most likely going to end up as Black Canary II so you might want to get comfy with that thought now to save yourself some trouble. I'm completely fine with it. Once they get Sara out of the regular rotation, she won't be so overshadowed. The guy who plays Deadshot loving owns. The Harley cameo owned. Owns owns owns. Finally, some fun trivia if no one caught it: Det. Lance's callsign was Delta Charlie Fifty-Two. DC 52. Shut up I felt clever when I noticed
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Oct 2, 2014 01:14
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Chokes McGee posted:Finally, some fun trivia if no one caught it: Det. Lance's callsign was Delta Charlie Fifty-Two. DC 52. Shut up I felt clever when I noticed The number 52 has been showing up everywhere in everything DC has made for a few years now, I've stopped looking for them some time ago.
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Oct 2, 2014 02:01
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Chokes McGee posted:It's called Mirakuru as a play on Miraclo, the drug Hourman uses to juice up for crimefightin'. It's super explicitly, multiple times been said not to be.
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Oct 2, 2014 03:40
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That's a silly thing for them to say when it's basically Venom, which itself is based on Miraclo. Like, why reinvent the wheel on that one? "It's a completely different drug with a name like miracle that has the exact same effects of another drug based on Miraclo".
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Oct 2, 2014 03:46
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I still loving love the scene where Slade loving walks in to Laurel's apartment to tell her Oliver is the Arrow and then walks away with the swagger of a thousand suns. I don't know if anyone besides  BARROWMAN will ever match him.
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Oct 2, 2014 03:50
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Chokes McGee posted:Laurel is most likely going to end up as Black Canary II so you might want to get comfy with that thought now to save yourself some trouble. I'm completely fine with it. Once they get Sara out of the regular rotation, she won't be so overshadowed. Yeah, Sara's the only character who could overshadow Laurel. Not ex-military Diggle and certainly not Oliver.
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Speaking of which, we'd drat well better see Slade at least a couple of times this season.
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Oct 2, 2014 03:53
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One of the smartest decisions Arrow has been making is finding ways to keep the main antagonists alive. Imagine the insanity of late seasons Buffy if all the Big Bads were still floating about - that potential is definitely here.
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Narcissus1916 posted:One of the smartest decisions Arrow has been making is finding ways to keep the main antagonists alive. Imagine the insanity of late seasons Buffy if all the Big Bads were still floating about - that potential is definitely here. I think unleashing a giant snake demon on Glory would've been great. "She's ruining my town? Not on my watch, nosiree!"
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Some Numbers posted:Yeah, Sara's the only character who could overshadow Laurel. Not ex-military Diggle and certainly not Oliver. Yep, being less overshadowed means immediately being the star of the show. Not like there's an in-between or anything, no sir. It's all or nothing. I'm just excited about the show and want to share it 
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Oct 2, 2014 14:37
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Narcissus1916 posted:One of the smartest decisions Arrow has been making is finding ways to keep the main antagonists alive. Imagine the insanity of late seasons Buffy if all the Big Bads were still floating about - that potential is definitely here. Yeah, I hate it when comic shows kill off villains left and right, it's sort of missing one of the silly tropes of being a comic-book show. Besides, once you kill off too many villains, what is left for your hero to do?
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Oct 2, 2014 15:01
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imperialparadox posted:Yeah, I hate it when comic shows kill off villains left and right, it's sort of missing one of the silly tropes of being a comic-book show. Besides, once you kill off too many villains, what is left for your hero to do? And since Green Arrow doesn't have that that deep a bench of (good) villains to begin with it's partly a matter of keeping some alive and partly a matter of borrowing from the rest of DC (especially Batman).
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Oct 2, 2014 15:19
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imperialparadox posted:Yeah, I hate it when comic shows kill off villains left and right, it's sort of missing one of the silly tropes of being a comic-book show. Besides, once you kill off too many villains, what is left for your hero to do? Uh which show did this?
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Oct 2, 2014 15:24
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If a comic book show did a bad thing it's usually Smallville.
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Oct 2, 2014 15:26
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I just want to say again how glad I am that Arrow is not as bad as Smallville.
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Oct 2, 2014 15:27
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Aphrodite posted:If a comic book show did a bad thing it's usually Smallville. You mean the only live action comic book show before Arrow that had more than one season? And the cartoons sure as poo poo didn't kill people off.
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Oct 2, 2014 15:28
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zoux posted:You mean the only live action comic book show before Arrow that had more than one season? And the cartoons sure as poo poo didn't kill people off. What about Tales from the crypt, Lois and Clark, Flash, Superman, Batman 66, Shazam, Spiderman, Hulk, and some I am forgetting?
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Oct 2, 2014 15:33
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zoux posted:You mean the only live action comic book show before Arrow that had more than one season? And the cartoons sure as poo poo didn't kill people off. uhhhh
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Oct 2, 2014 15:36
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I'm squinting suspiciously at TftC, Flash had one season and the others are old. Was Lois and Clark even a superhero show? Also how many characters did any of those shows kill off?
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Oct 2, 2014 15:37
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zoux posted:I'm squinting suspiciously at TftC, Flash had one season and the others are old. Was Lois and Clark even a superhero show? Lois and Clark killed off Lex.
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Oct 2, 2014 15:38
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Wonder Woman, Swamp Thing, Mutant X, there are probably some more.
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bobkatt013 posted:Lois and Clark killed off Lex. OK. Boogaleeboo posted:Wonder Woman, Swamp Thing, Mutant X, there are probably some more. Mutant X  Any ways the point is there isn't some deep history of comic book shows that kill off tons of characters, probably Arrow has killed off more characters than all the others combined.
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imperialparadox posted:Yeah, I hate it when comic shows kill off villains left and right, it's sort of missing one of the silly tropes of being a comic-book show. Besides, once you kill off too many villains, what is left for your hero to do? Resurrect some of those villains, thereby fulfilling a silly trope of comic books?
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computer parts posted:Resurrect some of those villains, thereby fulfilling a silly trope of comic books? They basically did with Merlyn (with reasonable in-universe justification).
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zoux posted:Uh which show did this? Some people had some examples, though honestly I should have said movies, since I was thinking about how Batman movies in particular kill of villains left and right.  computer parts posted:Resurrect some of those villains, thereby fulfilling a silly trope of comic books? Hmm, good counterpoint.
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imperialparadox posted:Some people had some examples, though honestly I should have said movies, since I was thinking about how Batman movies in particular kill of villains left and right.
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dreffen posted:I just want to say again how glad I am that Arrow is not as bad as Smallville. That sounds awfully like you're saying that Arrow is a bad show, but not as bad as Smallville.
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Sober posted:I still loving love the scene where Slade loving walks in to Laurel's apartment to tell her Oliver is the Arrow and then walks away with the swagger of a thousand suns. I don't know if anyone besides
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It's different when you're only telling a handful of stories though. If you've got 3-4 movies you can afford to kill off the rogues gallery. I disagree with this entirely. You close off so many narrative options when you kill off your villains. One of the coolest things that happens in the Batman films is Scarecrow making like a 2 minute appearance as a side job in a later movie. It makes the world feel bigger. Also, just because YOU are done working on a story, it doesn't mean the story is over if you are working in a shared universe. I always think it is stupid when superhero movies kill off villains, unless it is an expected part of the story(Punisher). To bring this back to Arrow, I was disappointed when we lost Vertigo and Shrapnel. In both cases it may be ok though as there is more than one Vertigo and Shrapnel was off screen so they have a loophole.
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Oct 2, 2014 16:58
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zoux posted:Mutant X It got three seasons and the only reason that it didn't get a fourth was the fact the company making it blew up. It was certainly popular enough to keep going, you have to give it that.
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