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They did that on the Terminator TV show as well. A couple characters in the second season discover they aren't actually from the same timeline.
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Ringo Star Get posted:There is a book that the game Original War is based on, called Last Day of Creation (I think) that does time travel well. Each time something happens in the past, the future changes. So sometimes you get people coming in from different futures meeting others from different futures as well. Twelve Monkeys is mentioned a lot as an example of time travel done well. You can't change the past, because the past has already happened. Anyone you send back is part of the past, and therefore part of the events of the past, and therefore anything he does has already happened. But honestly, time travel is such a problem in fiction not because "you can't time travel in real life" but because it's so apparently difficult to stay consistent. I really don't mind any take on time travel a work cares to portray as long as it follows its own rules. If you want to do a Twelve Monkeys "realistic" take on it, fine. If you want to do a multi-reality branching-path version, fine. Just stay consistent. Butterfly Effect is terrible for this reason (and many others). Okay so you have periods of your life where you blacked out and can astrally project yourself back there and change the past, thereby changing your future. Once you get back from a trip, everything changes and you get hit with all your memories from the new reality. I can even buy you keeping your old memories since you're basically outside of time when you're astrally projecting. Bit of a reach, but fine. And then he goes to prison and makes stigmata magically appear on his hands by going back in time. Like the scars just *poof* instantly appear at the moment he takes the trip back, totally ignoring the fact that they would have been there the whole time in the new timeline. Not to mention the likelyhood that randomly, voluntarily impaling your palms on spikes in elementary school MIGHT have just changed the course of your life enough so that you wouldn't be in prison when you're in your twenties. Or at least not that prison for that reason at that exact moment.
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Oct 26, 2014 18:16
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muscles like this? posted:In John Wick when the Russian mob boss is telling somebody about the title character he tells them that the Russian mob used to call Wick "Baba Yaga" which he says just means "the boogeyman." The problem with this is that Baba Yaga is a specific thing in Russian folklore and not just a generic term (also Baba Yaga is female.) Everyone knows that Baba Yaga is witch who lives in a chicken leg house! Well, everyone who's read Hellboy.
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Oct 26, 2014 18:35
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Samopsa posted:Don't think about timetravel, it does not make sense. I unironically believe that Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure had the best time travel mechanic. "We win as long as we remember to actually go back and rig the scenario" was brilliant.
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Oct 26, 2014 19:02
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Razorwired posted:I unironically believe that Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure had the best time travel mechanic. "We win as long as we remember to actually go back and rig the scenario" was brilliant. That was Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. 
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Oct 26, 2014 20:36
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thespaceinvader posted:That was Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. No, pretty sure they do that in Excellent Adventure also.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:22
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Gargamel Gibson posted:Everyone knows that Baba Yaga is witch who lives in a chicken leg house! Well, everyone who's read Hellboy. Or played Hero Quest/QFG
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Oct 26, 2014 21:38
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Razorwired posted:I unironically believe that Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure had the best time travel mechanic. "We win as long as we remember to actually go back and rig the scenario" was brilliant. The best part is that the villain (Bogus Journey) does the same thing, and Bill and Ted laugh it off because only the winners get to go back and do this stuff and since that's going to be them, their future selves are just up there trolling the villain by doing the stuff he thinks his future version will do.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:57
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Jedit posted:As I recall, you're seeing the scene in a mirror.
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Oct 27, 2014 03:22
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Pilchenstein posted:Isn't it actually some impossible shot that's only possible because it's a fake mirror with doubles mimicking the actors? Or am I thinking of something else entirely? If it's a fake mirror but they remembered to make the tool spin the mirrored way too then fair play to them, that's some attention to detail. Yeah, it's not actually a mirror but on one side it's Arnold and Linda Hamilton and on the other it's a fake Arnold head and Linda's twin sister. Or the other way around, either way it's done with Linda's sister and a fake Arnold.
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Oct 27, 2014 03:27
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muscles like this? posted:Yeah, it's not actually a mirror but on one side it's Arnold and Linda Hamilton and on the other it's a fake Arnold head and Linda's twin sister. Or the other way around, either way it's done with Linda's sister and a fake Arnold.
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Oct 27, 2014 03:35
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Pilchenstein posted:that's some attention to detail. James Cameron™ Seriously though, he's one of my irritating moments because he uses his powers of film-making to insert truly amazing achievements into the most cookie-cutter predictable poo poo. Post Abyss anyway.
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Oct 27, 2014 03:39
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Pook Good Mook posted:James Cameron™
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Pook Good Mook posted:James Cameron™
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Oct 27, 2014 04:55
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CannonFodder posted:I find it funny that when making the Titanic 3d remake, he fixed the stars at the end just because he was called out by Neil Degrasse Tyson (youtube link) I used to own a pair of boots just like his.... 
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Oct 27, 2014 05:53
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CannonFodder posted:I find it funny that when making the Titanic 3d remake, he fixed the stars at the end just because he was called out by Neil Degrasse Tyson (youtube link) I don’t go looking up star charts to see if they’re right, but I do mentally compare the day of the week with the calendar date when both are specified. It’s surprising how often they do not match up. Forrest Gump made this mistake with the date of Jenny’s death, but it’s subtler than most because the date and day are given in separate scenes. Or maybe Forrest’s memory is just intentionally faulty here. V  V
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Oct 27, 2014 13:59
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I think the reason that stuff is not often accurate is because literally, and I mean literally, nobody cares except for people who are specifically looking for it. Though I guess that's why it's 'irrationally' irritating.
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Oct 27, 2014 14:04
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CJacobs posted:nobody cares except for people who are specifically looking for it 
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Oct 27, 2014 14:40
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tuluk posted:How do you think Batman tests his batsuit-armor against firearms? Yeah, but he needs like 2 or 3 guns, at most. The armory has enough to arm the entirety of Blackgate and then some.
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Oct 27, 2014 19:23
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Listen, you never know when he's gonna break his "no killing" rule spontaneously for no reason. He's done it several times in the past!
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Oct 27, 2014 19:29
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Robzor McFabulous posted:No, pretty sure they do that in Excellent Adventure also. Yeah, multiple times they just sit there and make note to leave something they need in the right place. The keys, the voice recording for his dad, etc.
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Oct 27, 2014 19:39
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CJacobs posted:Listen, you never know when he's gonna break his "no killing" rule spontaneously for no reason. He's done it several times in the past! It was really embarrassing for him when he tried shooting Alexander Luthor and it didn't have any bullets. He swore that'd never happen again.
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Oct 27, 2014 19:41
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If he takes the guns from a criminal, where's he going to put them?
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Oct 27, 2014 19:46
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Tunicate posted:If he takes the guns from a criminal, where's he going to put them? Incinerator  e: Bat-Incinerator Big Grunty Secret has a new favorite as of 21:37 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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Oct 27, 2014 21:25
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More like Wayne Industries Metal Recycling branch. Then make more batarangs or a new batmobile or something.
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Oct 27, 2014 22:30
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The thing that annoys me about TDKR and guns is how he makes a big deal about how he doesn't use guns, but then he's got these big rear end guns on his bat cycle. I guess he's ok with shooting people if he's on the bat cycle.
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Oct 27, 2014 23:00
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Arrath posted:More like Wayne Industries Metal Recycling branch. Then make more batarangs or a new batmobile or something.
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Oct 27, 2014 23:00
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I also think it's weird how they make a big deal about how Bruce Wayne has to be rich to be able to afford all his gadgets, but because of his secret identity he pretty much has to build all that stuff himself. Or get someone he trusts to do it. He can't start a separate bat-corporation to build this stuff for him. I mean, in Begins he gets the batmobile by funnelling it to himself via some sort of voodoo accounting and inventory shenanigans, but he can't do that for everything.
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Oct 28, 2014 00:01
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They mention in Begins that he outsources a bunch of stuff in pieces and then puts it together himself. Specifically they say that they order the mask pieces in lots of like 60,000 to avoid suspicion. Also Lucius Fox just builds whatever Bruce wants using Wayne Corporation resources.
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Oct 28, 2014 00:07
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Jen heir rick posted:The thing that annoys me about TDKR and guns is how he makes a big deal about how he doesn't use guns, but then he's got these big rear end guns on his bat cycle. I guess he's ok with shooting people if he's on the bat cycle. Rubber bullets. Honest.
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Oct 28, 2014 00:46
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Which is a big reason why I hope the new Batman movies will have stories showing Bruce Wayne as the world's greatest detective, instead of strange Welsh man is eclipsed by the supporting cast.
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BiggerBoat posted:Rubber bullets. Honest. It's been a while since I watched the Dark Knight, but I seem to remember the batpod's guns were fairly large caliber, also he was blowing up cars (good thing he didn't blow up the car the kids were in! It's not like he was checking them before opening fire) But even if they were rubber bullets, I feel like their sheer size would make them more than capable of taking someone's head off
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Inzombiac posted:Which is a big reason why I hope the new Batman movies will have stories showing Bruce Wayne as the world's greatest detective, instead of strange Welsh man is eclipsed by the supporting cast. I know a lot of people aren't liking Gotham but since Bruce in that show is a little kid he actually is focusing more on being a detective right now. Son of Thunderbeast posted:It's been a while since I watched the Dark Knight, but I seem to remember the batpod's guns were fairly large caliber, also he was blowing up cars (good thing he didn't blow up the car the kids were in! It's not like he was checking them before opening fire) It was a joke based on The Dark Knight Returns comic book. In it Batman drives a Bat-tank and starts shooting people before stating "Rubber bullets, honest."
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muscles like this? posted:I know a lot of people aren't liking Gotham but since Bruce in that show is a little kid he actually is focusing more on being a detective right now.
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Pilchenstein posted:I'm actually quite liking Gotham, though Gordon is a bit bland - when I saw Donal Logue I thought he was going to be Gordon and got all excited but he's pretty entertaining as Bullock so that'll do I guess. It's better than loving Arrow at any rate. I have been ignoring the poo poo out of Gotham and pretty much any tv that isn't POI or Rick and Morty but Donal Logue as Bullock sounds fantastic.
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Sorry for breaking batchatmuscles like this? posted:In John Wick when the Russian mob boss is telling somebody about the title character he tells them that the Russian mob used to call Wick "Baba Yaga" which he says just means "the boogeyman." The problem with this is that Baba Yaga is a specific thing in Russian folklore and not just a generic term (also Baba Yaga is female.) In Slavic countries Baba Yaga is/was traditionally used as a boogeyman to scare misbehaving children. 'Do what I say, Stefania or Baba Yaga will come and eat you' was a light hearted threat that I've heard a lot as a (Polish) child. I've never seen John Wick but out of context Baba Yaga being used by Russians as a term for generic boogeyman makes sense to me. stefania_r has a new favorite as of 02:53 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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syscall girl posted:I have been ignoring the poo poo out of Gotham and pretty much any tv that isn't POI or Rick and Morty but Donal Logue as Bullock sounds fantastic.
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Yeah Donal Logue is the only reason I'm still watching Gotham. Also I am irrationally irritated that they made the murder of the Waynes into a big conspiracy that they have to solve rather than a random street crime. It just fucks up the mythology.
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Lagomorphic posted:Yeah Donal Logue is the only reason I'm still watching Gotham. Also I am irrationally irritated that they made the murder of the Waynes into a big conspiracy that they have to solve rather than a random street crime. It just fucks up the mythology. They sort of hinted the League of Assassins was behind it in Batman Begins, as Ra says something along the lines that the Waynes were ruining their plans.
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I know its probably a rating thing to keep it PG-13 but it's kind of goofy how in Les Miserables 2012 Gavroche is killed by magic bullets that don't leave any visible wounds or cause any bleeding.
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