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Modern Day Hercules
Apr 26, 2008
Military members are the biggest group of bitch babies that exist. They're basically burger flippers living off the government teat. Anyone could do what the people in the military do, but most of us don't because we can either get better jobs elsewhere or we're not retarded. There are people who were in the military for 2 years between Korea and Vietnam and they spent them checking id cards in goddamn illinois and they're out there asking for veteran's discounts for their sacrifices. I wish al-qaeda was better at killing these people so at least they'd actually deserve their free meal at Denny's on veteran's day.

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax

Modern Day Hercules posted:

Military members are the biggest group of bitch babies that exist. They're basically burger flippers living off the government teat. Anyone could do what the people in the military do, but most of us don't because we can either get better jobs elsewhere or we're not retarded. There are people who were in the military for 2 years between Korea and Vietnam and they spent them checking id cards in goddamn illinois and they're out there asking for veteran's discounts for their sacrifices.

Yep.

Dept of Defense: Providing used car salesmen and homeless drunks to your neighborhood since 1776

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

OP, I agree it's weird that a person trained to kill other people doesn't have marketable skills in today's job market.

"Hello sir, I see you're applying to be a financial analyst at our company. Your job tasks would include supervising employees tasked with monitoring our finances and how to cut waste. What skills do you bring to the table?"

"I shot people for money."

"I see. And how can you help negotiate our overhead costs?"

"I was trained since young adulthood to kill people for money."

"Intriguing. Are you familiar with business infrastructure?"

"I can jump out of a boat and kill people for money."

"Alright, well, thank you."

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug
Military is straight up the biggest welfare program in the US and yet the people who are most in support of it are completely against helping low income people on our own soil. I honestly, sincerely, do not get it. It'd be understandable if we lived in a time where there were legitimate threats against our sovereignty, but that literally hasn't been true in anyone who lives in the US's lifetime.

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014


The one good thing about living near a base.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

I like her nail polish.

BONE DOG
Jun 7, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Trip Daddy X posted:

Right. I had a friend that did it and whenever a 12 pack was within a week of expiring he got to buy it for $1. Sounds pretty sweet to me. And for what it's worth, some beer delivery guys get paid pretty drat well.

A lot of it is still union

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe

Fandyien posted:

you'd think after killing bin laden they'd just give you those four years as a freebie

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






thanks obama

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

ArbitraryC posted:

Military is straight up the biggest welfare program in the US and yet the people who are most in support of it are completely against helping low income people on our own soil. I honestly, sincerely, do not get it. It'd be understandable if we lived in a time where there were legitimate threats against our sovereignty, but that literally hasn't been true in anyone who lives in the US's lifetime.

Yeah if you look at where the military gets new recruits it's also lovely rural red states.

Being able to join a welfare state is pretty compelling to someone who lives in Texas or Alabama.

BONE DOG
Jun 7, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

ArbitraryC posted:

Military is straight up the biggest welfare program in the US and yet the people who are most in support of it are completely against helping low income people on our own soil. I honestly, sincerely, do not get it. It'd be understandable if we lived in a time where there were legitimate threats against our sovereignty, but that literally hasn't been true in anyone who lives in the US's lifetime.

Poor people love voting for bullshit social issues but otherwise totally against their best interests

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


I imagine SOF people are even bigger welfare queens than lowly average enlisted given how much free poo poo and perks they get. They live on their own little compound with their own private gym with personal trainers and private clinic and private dining facility with private barracks

They're the gated communities of the military world, which in itself is one large gated community.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Justin Tyme posted:

I imagine SOF people are even bigger welfare queens than lowly average enlisted given how much free poo poo and perks they get. They live on their own little compound with their own private gym with personal trainers and private clinic and private dining facility with private barracks

They're the gated communities of the military world, which in itself is one large gated community.

They are basically the military's version of college football athletes.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

red19fire posted:

At 20 years in you get a half-pay pension for life at whatever your final rank was, adjusted for inflation year after year. Dude could have coasted as an instructor or generic office duty for 4 years, and retired at half-pay, then delivered beer or whatever. It's a pretty sweet gig.

I know someone who took an early retirement buyout at 16 years in. One year's pay. He didn't really grasp that getting a $50k lump sum now is worth less than $200k over 4 years, and $25k/year after that. He signed the documents in Iraq so it was tax-free, then he smuggled power tools back so he could become a home contractor. This was in 2007, about a year and a half before the financial meltdown :laffo:

Jesus christ.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


etalian posted:

They are basically the military's version of college football athletes.

I was in RASP for a bit and that phrase is 110% spot on. Regiment is one giant college football team except the players are also all frat bros who get sweet hookups at their dad's car dealership when they get out.

Except, you know, if you are an actual college football player in regiment you just end up getting teamkilled

psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax

Justin Tyme posted:

I imagine SOF people are even bigger welfare queens than lowly average enlisted given how much free poo poo and perks they get. They live on their own little compound with their own private gym with personal trainers and private clinic and private dining facility with private barracks

They're the gated communities of the military world, which in itself is one large gated community.

The SOC guys didnt get any extra money except for hazard pay and other ordinary stuff that we all got.

Woop de fricken doo, you get jump/dive/jackoff pay. Want a cookie?

a shiny rock
Nov 13, 2009

ArbitraryC posted:

I mean if we're being honest I'm totally in favor of a minimum guaranteed wage and have no problem with funding an otherwise useless person for life, but when it comes down to people who complain about welfare queens thinking this guy deserves better treatment despite not actually being of any value in modern society I'd rather him struggle and suffer to prove a point.

well he did kill bin laden

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






red19fire posted:

At 20 years in you get a half-pay pension for life at whatever your final rank was, adjusted for inflation year after year. Dude could have coasted as an instructor or generic office duty for 4 years, and retired at half-pay, then delivered beer or whatever. It's a pretty sweet gig.

I know someone who took an early retirement buyout at 16 years in. One year's pay. He didn't really grasp that getting a $50k lump sum now is worth less than $200k over 4 years, and $25k/year after that. He signed the documents in Iraq so it was tax-free, then he smuggled power tools back so he could become a home contractor. This was in 2007, about a year and a half before the financial meltdown :laffo:

wow its almost as if the military targets total dumbfucks who lack any sort of critical thinking skill

WaffleLove
Aug 16, 2007
Wait didn't Bruce Willis offer like millions of dollars for Bin Laden death as well as other celebrities? Didn't they pay those guys?

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe
I'm surprised they never covered "don't ever take the lump sum" in basic training

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Arian_Samurai posted:

I'm surprised they never covered "don't ever take the lump sum" in basic training

Why would they?

red19fire
May 26, 2010

Arian_Samurai posted:

I'm surprised they never covered "don't ever take the lump sum" in basic training

Basic Financial Planning class is essentially naptime. IIRC it was required every year, and still motherfuckers took out payday loans to buy mustangs at 54% APR.

dundun
Oct 29, 2005
H E R B
drat how much pussy is that guy gonna get now...

...Because women are turned on by sociopathic killer men-apes with big muscles and a high school education, who's biggest life accomplishment is shooting a 54 year old brown person in the face infront of his family.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


psyopmonkey posted:

The SOC guys didnt get any extra money except for hazard pay and other ordinary stuff that we all got.

Woop de fricken doo, you get jump/dive/jackoff pay. Want a cookie?

you're forgetting language pay, and I think HALO might be separate than regular jump pay

also lots of sep pay for being deployed so much, I'm curious to see the LES from some HIGH SPEED OPERATOR

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Although I will admit, it's pretty bad rear end we hunted down bin Laden for ten years. That's twice as long as John Wayne looked for that one broad in "The Searchers."

psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax

Justin Tyme posted:

you're forgetting language pay, and I think HALO might be separate than regular jump pay

Language pay isnt that great.

I dont know about HALO/LALO and all that other crap.

ThisGuy
Aug 16, 2014

This Fuckin' Guy
It'd be cool to have highly trained bad motherfuckers teach or assistant teach at universities. It'd be a perspective that college kids usually don't get.

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

psyopmonkey posted:

The SOC guys didnt get any extra money except for hazard pay and other ordinary stuff that we all got.

Woop de fricken doo, you get jump/dive/jackoff pay. Want a cookie?

Most of the SEALS I know who stayed with it and were good at it got significant re-enlistment bonuses. That's where they make their extra cash.

rocket_man38
Jan 23, 2006

My life is a barrel o' fun!!
Dude could join Academi or something and make a poo poo ton.

psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax

natetimm posted:

Most of the SEALS I know who stayed with it and were good at it got significant re-enlistment bonuses. That's where they make their extra cash.

Ahhh ok. That makes sense.

Kleen_TheRacistDog
Feb 17, 2014

Can't bust the Krust fuckman
www.skullmund.com

ArbitraryC posted:

I mean if we're being honest I'm totally in favor of a minimum guaranteed wage and have no problem with funding an otherwise useless person for life, but when it comes down to people who complain about welfare queens thinking this guy deserves better treatment despite not actually being of any value in modern society I'd rather him struggle and suffer to prove a point.
what part of he killed bin laden don't you understand, you loving idiot?

red19fire
May 26, 2010

natetimm posted:

Most of the SEALS I know who stayed with it and were good at it got significant re-enlistment bonuses. That's where they make their extra cash.

Aren't most SEALs high level enlisted too? They can make some bank reenlisting.

The most I ever saw was an E-5 infantry (in a high-demand specialty) got $18k, tax-free bonus, because he reenlisted in Iraq. He bought a BMW, it was then repossessed like 4 months later because he couldn't afford the payments. He also got 2 DUI's in it and had to take leave (vacation days) to do jail time. I think someone got $30k once, might have been an officer. You can make some loot if you're smart about it.

I also knew an E-4 infantry that reenlisted in the states and got... the coffee mug on the reenlistment NCO's desk, about a third full of cold coffee.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

red19fire posted:

Aren't most SEALs high level enlisted too? They can make some bank reenlisting.

The most I ever saw was an E-5 infantry (in a high-demand specialty) got $18k, tax-free bonus, because he reenlisted in Iraq. He bought a BMW, it was then repossessed like 4 months later because he couldn't afford the payments. He also got 2 DUI's in it and had to take leave (vacation days) to do jail time. I think someone got $30k once, might have been an officer. You can make some loot if you're smart about it.

I also knew an E-4 infantry that reenlisted in the states and got... the coffee mug on the reenlistment NCO's desk, about a third full of cold coffee.

SEAL ranks range from E-4 to E-9.

psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax

red19fire posted:

Aren't most SEALs high level enlisted too? They can make some bank reenlisting.

The most I ever saw was an E-5 infantry (in a high-demand specialty) got $18k, tax-free bonus, because he reenlisted in Iraq. He bought a BMW, it was then repossessed like 4 months later because he couldn't afford the payments. He also got 2 DUI's in it and had to take leave (vacation days) to do jail time. I think someone got $30k once, might have been an officer. You can make some loot if you're smart about it.

I also knew an E-4 infantry that reenlisted in the states and got... the coffee mug on the reenlistment NCO's desk, about a third full of cold coffee.

So...

What youre telling us is that you picked a lovely MOS.

Kay. :thumbsup:

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

red19fire posted:

Aren't most SEALs high level enlisted too? They can make some bank reenlisting.

The most I ever saw was an E-5 infantry (in a high-demand specialty) got $18k, tax-free bonus, because he reenlisted in Iraq. He bought a BMW, it was then repossessed like 4 months later because he couldn't afford the payments. He also got 2 DUI's in it and had to take leave (vacation days) to do jail time. I think someone got $30k once, might have been an officer. You can make some loot if you're smart about it.

I also knew an E-4 infantry that reenlisted in the states and got... the coffee mug on the reenlistment NCO's desk, about a third full of cold coffee.

Know a couple guys who got 50k plus.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




SirEvelynTremble posted:

Bin Laden would have approved of the beer

I heard he had a decent porn stash too.

Kleen_TheRacistDog
Feb 17, 2014

Can't bust the Krust fuckman
www.skullmund.com
lol is kinda cute that you guys are talking about 30-50k like it's some kind of baller-status amoutn of money.

psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax

No More Heroes posted:

I heard he had a decent porn stash too.

:nyd:

Ummm...

Excuse me.

Its called a combat cock duster.

Thanks.

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Modern Day Hercules
Apr 26, 2008

Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:

lol is kinda cute that you guys are talking about 30-50k like it's some kind of baller-status amoutn of money.

You must understand, that if these people weren't in the military they'd be AT BEST managing an Arby's somewhere in loving bumfuck middle america. They'd never see 30 grand all at one time even if they robbed both of their hometown banks on the same night.

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