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Strawberry Panda posted:Edit: also I watched survivor series with my friend who never watches it and he said, "not gonna lie that was pretty fun." I watched with a person who doesn't follow any wrestling at all, and the only person she knows is Genki Sudo from his K1 days, and that's only because of his work in World Order. She loved the Divas Survivor Series match and latched right on to Naomi, was super pissed about the other girls match, and said that Steph's actions make her want to see someone put her down, and that she has the personality of the bottom of a shoe, which is probably the point. Spent most of the time comparing wrestling to Sailor Moon and generally had a good time. She was also madly madly in love with Cesaro, Lana, Seth, and Ziggler. Spent the entire time making fun of John Cena having Big Toes for every finger.
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Xenoletum posted:She was also madly madly in love with Cesaro, Lana, Seth, and Ziggler. Spent the entire time making fun of John Cena having Big Toes for every finger. She chose wisely.
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Nov 24, 2014 19:19
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Gatts posted:Brie's new theme? I kissed a girl and liked it by Motorhead. Katy Perry rights are expensive. Can we just have Lemmy grumbling out every wrestleman theme from now on? Especially the instrumentals, where he just revs his throat like a motorcycle to the tune of the beat.
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Nov 24, 2014 19:22
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RAW needs to start with Show coming out and weakly defending himself "UH, IT WAS A JOKE I WAS UH LULLING THEM INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY...YEAH...THAT'S THE TICKET!"
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Nov 24, 2014 19:25
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Daniel Bryan posted:A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF EVERY HEEL AND FACE TURN OF BIG SHOW/GIANT'S CAREER: Holy poo poo, that was exhausting.
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Nov 24, 2014 19:26
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Daniel Bryan posted:-Big Show returns at No Way Out '08 as a face, but it was only short lived before he attacked Rey Mysterio and turned heel. In which Show turns heel by attacking an injured Mysterio, Floyd Mayweather shops him. Over the course of the feud to Wrestlemania, Show becomes the face because people hate Mayweather so much.
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Nov 24, 2014 19:27
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Im very happy that Nicky from the Spirit Squad beat the Authority and stole the show last night, but I feel bad for him because now he's going to get stuck into a feud with Bray Wyatt.
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Nov 24, 2014 19:31
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Am I the only one who feels like the people that got put over strongest last night were Ziggler, Ambrose, and probably Rollins third and that that's no coincidence? Also Dolph Ziggler owns, just wanna reiterate.
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Nov 24, 2014 19:39
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I just want to point out that when Ziggler did the desperation hop off the Spanish announce table, he landed head first on the steel steps. The guy can't help but bump 24/7.
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Nov 24, 2014 19:39
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Orgophlax posted:After SS ended, I thought how excited I would be to watch RAW the next day, and it was immediately mitigated by remembering Larry the Cable Guy is hosting... Yeah, telling the difference between Larry and 2014 Sting may be difficult.
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Nov 24, 2014 19:40
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Nov 24, 2014 19:47
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NienNunb posted:I want Ziggler to beat Brock for the world title. My preferred order of guys to beat Brock: 1. Ambrose 2. Ziggler 3. Bryan 4. Reigns And I realize Reigns is by far most likely but I'd still be fine with it so really I can't lose! 
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CobiWann posted:Oh GOD drat IT.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Am I the only one who feels like the people that got put over strongest last night were Ziggler, Ambrose, and probably Rollins third and that that's no coincidence? Sting.
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There's just enough residual Sting hype energy to look forward to RAW tonight, after a quick nap later!
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Nov 24, 2014 19:59
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Sting should just be a general manager and not say anything. All he does is exist somewhere in the rafters or backstage randomly popping in out of nowhere to point a baseball bat at two or more people and thus we get a match.
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Nov 24, 2014 20:00
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Daniel Bryan posted:Sting. I realize what you're saying but Sting isn't in the same conversation IMO. It's a different kind of being put over. Sting was put over as "guy who took HHH out of the equation and had a HOLY poo poo worthy moment" but Ziggler was put over as an unbeatable hero, Rollins was put over as a cunning but really dangerous heel, and Ambrose was put over as an unhinged, massive badass who took a relatively lukewarm crowd (at the time) and had them losing their poo poo for him by the time he was done (a la Ziggler). Sting didn't need to do anything to get over, ergo he was less built up, and more just affirmed as a legendary presence.
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achillesforever6 posted:He'll probably be in two segments that last enough for them to shill the terrible movie And it'll be the two segments my wife decides to walk in the room. Upside - at least Kirk Cameron's not on RAW to shill HIS terrible movie.
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Nov 24, 2014 20:08
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Did we ever determine the exact count of Emmacrats worldwide?
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Ziggler was put over as an unbeatable hero I dunno I think HHH had him pretty beaten before Sting showed up.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I realize what you're saying but Sting isn't in the same conversation IMO. It's a different kind of being put over. Sting was put over as "guy who took HHH out of the equation and had a HOLY poo poo worthy moment" but Ziggler was put over as an unbeatable hero, Rollins was put over as a cunning but really dangerous heel, and Ambrose was put over as an unhinged, massive badass who took a relatively lukewarm crowd (at the time) and had them losing their poo poo for him by the time he was done (a la Ziggler). Sting didn't need to do anything to get over, ergo he was less built up, and more just affirmed as a legendary presence. Sting helped Ziggler win the match which he was about to lose. You can twist things any you want in your head. That's fine. I want to see where this is going first befor overreacting about it. It was cool, though. I got to see Sting.
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Doo-Wop Duodenum posted:Did we ever determine the exact count of Emmacrats worldwide? One, me.
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My bae Dolph Ziggler looked cool and strong and awesome last night and he superkicked all the haters and nay-sayers.
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Nov 24, 2014 20:13
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Amazon VOD has the HD version of Paul Heyman's documentary for $5 in their Black Friday deal. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MFDZGIQ
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Daniel Bryan posted:Sting helped Ziggler win the match which he was about to lose. You can twist things any you want in your head. That's fine. I want to see where this is going first befor overreacting about it. It was cool, though. I got to see Sting. Which he was about to lose because he was being hosed by the authority, and he still managed to take most of them out before HHH got in the ring. Sting un-hosed Ziggler, but Ziggler definitely came off as the hero of the actual match.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Amazon VOD has the HD version of Paul Heyman's documentary for $5 in their Black Friday deal. Thanks. This is tempting. I'm kind of an extreme cheap rear end when it comes to stuff like this though, mainly because I believe it'll be on Netflix soon enough.
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Nov 24, 2014 20:15
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Daniel Bryan posted:Sting helped Ziggler win the match which he was about to lose. It took seven people to make Ziggler lose the match and only one to make him win. John Cena has faced better odds than that.
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Nov 24, 2014 20:18
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Doo-Wop Duodenum posted:Did we ever determine the exact count of Emmacrats worldwide? Yeah, I don't loving know, either.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Sting helped Ziggler win the match which he was about to lose. You can twist things any you want in your head. That's fine. I want to see where this is going first befor overreacting about it. It was cool, though. I got to see Sting. That's fair enough, but if anyone argues they didn't put over Ziggler in pretty legendary fashion in a vacuum last night, you're out of your mind. Ziggler had not one but two visual pins totally clean after taking a Passion Of The Cena level rear end beating. I agree that how they follow up on it is an entirely different proposition, however. It almost sucks how much talent WWE has because guys are bound to get lost in the shuffle. Ziggler, all three Shield guys, Bryan when he comes back...they all have the capacity to be top guys and that's not even counting guys in developmental or guys squandering without pushes (looking primarily at Cesaro). Oh and whatever else you say about Sting, that was a HELL of a Scorpion Death Drop. It looked like murder.
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I hope Cena comes out first, and gets deluged with "WE WANT ZIGGLER" chants.
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Nov 24, 2014 20:27
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Daniel Bryan posted:Sting helped Ziggler win the match which he was about to lose. You can twist things any you want in your head. That's fine. I want to see where this is going first befor overreacting about it. It was cool, though. I got to see Sting.  It's entirely possible, if not likely, that they gently caress Ziggler back to shitsville as quickly as tonight but he very very very clearly had the match won on his own on two separate occasions despite being beaten by numerous people to hell and back and only did not win clean because of HHH. Sting just evened the odds. Acting like Ziggler had no shot in a fair fight without Sting is so insanely preposterous that it makes me wonder if you actually watched the match or just read spoilers.
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Orgophlax posted:I hope Cena comes out first, and gets deluged with "WE WANT ZIGGLER" chants. I like Dolph, but let's keep our expectations reasonable.
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This is a lot of words that aren't responding to what I said. I never said anything about a fair fight. Armstrong's arm was coming down for the three, and Ziggler wasn't moving. That was my point.
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Ziggler also "won" the match twice before really winning it, if you are taking hypothetical situations into account
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Daniel Bryan posted:This is a lot of words that aren't responding to what I said. I never said anything about a fair fight. Armstrong's arm was coming down for the three, and Ziggler wasn't moving. That was my point. Which ignores that twice before that the ref's arm was coming down for three and Rollins wasn't moving.
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Nov 24, 2014 20:39
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Luneshot posted:Where is Raw tonight? Indianapolis. I almost went but Raw tapings are exhausting and the shows haven't been very exciting recently.
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Sigma posted:I just want to point out that when Ziggler did the desperation hop off the Spanish announce table, he landed head first on the steel steps. His stupid rear end is going to get another concussion and kill his own push.
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