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lomzus posted:Batista was just confirmed as one of the villains in the next James Bond movie, so with that and Guardians of the Galaxy 2/other Marvel movies I dont think hes going back to WWE any time soon. He needs to keep his rusty rear end away from the ring the more success for him in Hollywood the better.
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Gonzo McFee posted:The way Punk tells it it's like Punk was on the cusp of becoming a mainstream celebrity (or at least all over the shop in the public eye) and WWE did everything in it's power to stop that happening. Like the WWE wants their wrestlers to become big but only if they're the guys who won't become too big for their britches. I mean yeah, basically. It seems that if it's not an opportunity that they've created then it's shut down. The game cover is one example. They clearly wanted Punk on the cover because Punk is more marketable, but that's not a WWE idea so they twist it into getting someone else on the cover. Then they can go to Sheamus or whoever and say hey, look what we did for you. Exactly the same with the Slim Jims thing. There's no reason why Punk shouldn't have headed that up. But it was a Punk opportunity, not a WWE one, and they can't be having that.
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Dec 4, 2014 13:40
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Sigma posted:Incoming Girl bye: Referring to employees as "superstars" or "divas" gives this policy real credibility.
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Dec 4, 2014 13:40
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I won't be able to listen to the podcast for a few days, why did Punk rip Jericho? I had always thought that they were good friends. In fact, I saw them goofing around as a tag team at a house show against the Rhodes Scholars
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Sasha aint ratchet posted:I won't be able to listen to the podcast for a few days, why did Punk rip Jericho? I had always thought that they were good friends. I think that he used Jericho as an example of people who say that he'll be back. I think Jericho said that he left too and swore never to go back and gave Punk 3 years. Punk said that Jericho doesn't understand as much as he thinks he does because they left under completely different circumstances. It was pretty clear that he was still incredibly annoyed by the firing on his wedding day thing. I think it sticks out because outside of Trips, he doesn't really mention anyone by name in any sort of negative way, except he's mentioned Ryback and Jericho a few times.
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Dec 4, 2014 13:55
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DrVenkman posted:Good for him. They had one of the stars of one of the biggest movies of all time and they did nothing to capitalise on that. I don't even think he got a mention. It's weird how WWE wants to be mainstream and then seems to shun any opportunity that presents itself. They only announced that this morning UK time, the WWE aren't going to jump the gun on it. Time may prove you to be correct, I'd say that's actually very likely, but it might be worth giving them a little while first. The WWE do suck, but let's let them prove it before ripping them on it first.
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The bit about Rock asking him something to the effect of "I heard you did a podcast. Why does everyone hate me now?" was pretty funny.
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Aurain posted:They only announced that this morning UK time, the WWE aren't going to jump the gun on it. Well to be fair I was talking about Guardians of the Galaxy, in which they seemingly did very little to go "Oh hey, you know that guy who everyone likes in it, we had him first." It's like PR 101.
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Sasha aint ratchet posted:I won't be able to listen to the podcast for a few days, why did Punk rip Jericho? I had always thought that they were good friends. in addition to that writeup a few posts up, Punk said "don't chant CM Punk at my friends, chant it at the people who suck and people who wear lifts."
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Dec 4, 2014 14:31
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Aye Doc posted:in addition to that writeup a few posts up, Punk said "don't chant CM Punk at my friends, chant it at the people who suck and people who wear lifts." Sheamus has them too doesn't he? I know Jericho wears massive ones. I wonder is there a canonical lift wearing list.
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Apparently Jon Stewart loves wrasslin? http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/u1gh7p/cover-up-in-the-air Starts at 4:00 mins
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Tezzeract posted:Apparently Jon Stewart loves wrasslin? He went to Money in the Bank this year.
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Tezzeract posted:Apparently Jon Stewart loves wrasslin? He had Mick Foley on and cut a promo with him too. I think his kids are big fans of WWE.
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Dec 4, 2014 15:04
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Red posted:Referring to employees as "superstars" or "divas" gives this policy real credibility. If you call them "employees" one more time Vince is going to personally go to your house and kick your rear end
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Dec 4, 2014 15:23
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Noted listicle generator Cracked.com has decided to fix booking forever, in their beneficence.
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Smoking Crow posted:What if he really really likes wrestling He likes money and is pretty old now for a worker. I'm sure he'll have another small Rock-ish run eventually, but he'll never go back permanently.
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triplexpac posted:If you call them "employees" one more time Vince is going to personally go to your house and kick your rear end WWE "Superstars" and "Divas" are technically categorized as "independent contractors", although they are signed to exclusive contracts with World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc., and upon conclusion of their working relationship, are bound to non-compete clauses with other domestic "sports entertainment" companies and mixed-martial arts organizations. Furthermore, these "independent contractors" must acquire approval and potentially pay fees or share revenue with WWE for promotional appearances, sponsorships, and acting roles in commercials and motion pictures. "Independent contractors" are also largely responsible for domestic travel (flights, loding, rental cars, food) costs within the lower 48 states. Oh, and "independent contractors" are ineligible for any benefits except for medical staff at live events, international travel costs, live event catering, and use of the company gym.
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Red posted:WWE "Superstars" and "Divas" are technically categorized as "independent contractors", although they are signed to exclusive contracts with World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc., and upon conclusion of their working relationship, are bound to non-compete clauses with other domestic "sports entertainment" companies and mixed-martial arts organizations. Furthermore, these "independent contractors" must acquire approval and potentially pay fees or share revenue with WWE for promotional appearances, sponsorships, and acting roles in commercials and motion pictures. "Independent contractors" are also largely responsible for domestic travel (flights, loding, rental cars, food) costs within the lower 48 states. It's worth noting that this is a tenuous legal position, as courts tend to believe that if it walks like an employee and talks like an employee, it's likely Employii, two-time US champion.
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projecthalaxy posted:Noted listicle generator Cracked.com has decided to fix booking forever, in their beneficence. I don't have a problem with the list article format per se but that is pretty bad.
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projecthalaxy posted:Noted listicle generator Cracked.com has decided to fix booking forever, in their beneficence. "[Zack Ryder] could have easily been the industry's next big crossover star."
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By the time he dies, the world will have mourned Ryder's dead push to the point that they'll be claiming he could have been a Hall of Fame, 10x WWE Champion, more successful movie star than The Rock if only WWE hadn't hosed him.
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Dec 4, 2014 16:16
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The funny thing is, if Zack were a huge rear end in a top hat in real life, he'd be 1996 Shawn Michaels all over again (well, without the wrestling ability). Instead, he's shy or passive or something, and never sticks up for himself.
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Dec 4, 2014 16:19
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The Punk Pt 2 podcast is really lackluster in comparison... just go read a recap of it. No real questions were answered from fans, just more venting about lost opportunities.
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I like Ryder but it was pretty telling that people would chant "We want Ryder!" and then when they got him would go completely silent.
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Astro7x posted:The Punk Pt 2 podcast is really lackluster in comparison... just go read a recap of it. No real questions were answered from fans, just more venting about lost opportunities. to be fair i wouldn't want to go through what was tens of thousands of emails either Codependent Poster posted:I like Ryder but it was pretty telling that people would chant "We want Ryder!" and then when they got him would go completely silent. i think a lot of people liked the idea of ryder more than ryder himself
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Bard Maddox posted:"[Zack Ryder] could have easily been the industry's next big crossover star." YouTube is legitimate mainstream entertainment now, and a shirtless homosexual named Davey Wavey giving his opinions on things gets basically the same numbers as RAW
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WrasslorMonkey posted:Pretend I did this in a timely manner Bless your heart. You really do the lord's work.
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Astro7x posted:The Punk Pt 2 podcast is really lackluster in comparison... just go read a recap of it. No real questions were answered from fans, just more venting about lost opportunities. To be fair it seemed that a lot of questions were just general wrestling stuff, and not specific to the situation. At least there was an insight into what wrestlers get paid. 4 Nights of hardcore matches, 5k, 4 hours with Wizardworld, 20k.
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Cardboard Box posted:to be fair i wouldn't want to go through what was tens of thousands of emails either I loved him until I watched him wrestle. Plus I know a guy who is friends with him, and the friend is a massive oval office, so he's cunty by association, so now I hate him.
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Zack Ryder hit his ceiling the very moment Punk invited him into the ring to celebrate winning the US title and he had nothing new to say.
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DrVenkman posted:At least there was an insight into what wrestlers get paid. 4 Nights of hardcore matches, 5k, 4 hours with Wizardworld, 20k. Regardless of Punk saying "I know what I'm worth", that's still good money. Entry level UFC fighters used to get 8k/8k show/win, but a large chunk of that was spent in the build up to fights on training and related stuff. My heart hardly bleeds for Punk on that point, even though shafting him out of the promised money is bullshit.
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Aurain posted:Regardless of Punk saying "I know what I'm worth", that's still good money. Entry level UFC fighters used to get 8k/8k show/win, but a large chunk of that was spent in the build up to fights on training and related stuff. My heart hardly bleeds for Punk on that point, even though shafting him out of the promised money is bullshit. The issue is more that they told him a lie to get him to the shows, then hosed him. If they just said "hey, we need you and it's less money but that's your deal" I'd have more respect for the decision.
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Aurain posted:Regardless of Punk saying "I know what I'm worth", that's still good money. Entry level UFC fighters used to get 8k/8k show/win, but a large chunk of that was spent in the build up to fights on training and related stuff. My heart hardly bleeds for Punk on that point, even though shafting him out of the promised money is bullshit. Who the gently caress cares, he was going to make 20 loving thousand for sitting on his rear end for 4 hours before they took it away from him because their own booking of shows in mexico were under-performing, if he honestly means that much to the company of loving course he should be getting paid accordingly. People are real quick to tell the actual talent/on the field product that they make enough money, why would you complain you get paid to play a game/fake fight etc etc. While the actual owners are laughing their way to the loving bank making millions and millions of dollars off their back.
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Codependent Poster posted:I like Ryder but it was pretty telling that people would chant "We want Ryder!" and then when they got him would go completely silent. See: Mizdow now.
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Daniel Bryan posted:See: Mizdow now. Nobody watches Mizdow for his wrestling. They watch him to laugh at silly stunt double antics and have cheer offs / boo offs for him and the Miz. Bad example there compared to Zack "bland promo" Ryder l.
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I'll also flat out state that Sandow's a better worker than Ryder (or Miz, for that matter).
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The Bee posted:Nobody watches Mizdow for his wrestling. They watch him to laugh at silly stunt double antics and have cheer offs / boo offs for him and the Miz. Bad example there compared to Zack "bland promo" Ryder Nobody watched Ryder for his wrestling either though. They watched his wrestling-free youtube show and then ignored his matches.
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Aurain posted:Regardless of Punk saying "I know what I'm worth", that's still good money. Entry level UFC fighters used to get 8k/8k show/win, but a large chunk of that was spent in the build up to fights on training and related stuff. My heart hardly bleeds for Punk on that point, even though shafting him out of the promised money is bullshit. I can't believe they are only getting paid $1,250 for the main event of a house show. Make me wonder what the people at the bottom of the card are being paid.
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Daniel Bryan posted:See: Mizdow now. Is he not getting reactions on TV anymore?
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Smoking Crow posted:What if he really really likes wrestling Hopefully we booed all of that out of him during his last run. I'm so happy he's succeeding at acting because he seerms to enjoy it, I like to watch him do it, and it means I'll never have to see him wrestle again, hopefully.
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