Julio Cruz posted:

Also I'm pretty sure a shotgun isn't going to do gently caress all against an eagle high in the air.

Neruz posted:

You know people use slugs in shotguns for target shooting right? A proper slug+slug barrel on a shotgun will give you an effective range of over a hundred meters, it's no rifle but you could possibly hit an eagle if it swooped a bit.

RareAcumen posted:

People act super outraged about people protesting Eric Garner and Mike Brown's deaths by blocking roadways and such and scream 'You're blocking ambulances!'

They're not in the right on that part are they? Or do they just move out of the way to let ambulances pass? Because I see that poo poo all the time on Imgur comments [I know, I shouldn't still be going there] and I don't know if I should be angry at them or the protesters for a second.

DoctorWhat posted:

In NYC near rockefeller center a few weeks back, protesters moved to let ambulances pass.

Those ambulances were full of NYPD SWAT teams. Actual Factual War Crime.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Source?

Also, for this to be a war crime, doesn't there need to be a war?

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Source?

Also, for this to be a war crime, doesn't there need to be a war?

DoctorWhat posted:

In NYC near rockefeller center a few weeks back, protesters moved to let ambulances pass.

Those ambulances were full of NYPD SWAT teams. Actual Factual War Crime.

Neruz posted:

You know people use slugs in shotguns for target shooting right? A proper slug+slug barrel on a shotgun will give you an effective range of over a hundred meters, it's no rifle but you could possibly hit an eagle if it swooped a bit.

OwlFancier posted:

Technically, but the general idea of using a medically marked transport for military purposes is certainly one of the big no-nos.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

It's law enforcement, not a military purpose. At this time I do believe the NYPD is still a legitimate police force in NYC, rather than a foreign occupying power. (Although considering how they treat their civilian overseer in chief, maybe we'll need to find a police variation on "coup")

Absurd Alhazred posted:

It's law enforcement, not a military purpose. At this time I do believe the NYPD is still a legitimate police force in NYC, rather than a foreign occupying power. (Although considering how they treat their civilian overseer in chief, maybe we'll need to find a police variation on "coup")

Jurgan posted:

Someone in the NYPD union recently say they're a "wartime police department." Yikes.

Neruz posted:

You know people use slugs in shotguns for target shooting right? A proper slug+slug barrel on a shotgun will give you an effective range of over a hundred meters, it's no rifle but you could possibly hit an eagle if it swooped a bit.

Swan Oat posted:

Yeah there's no way an effete liberal like the 0bungler would have the tactical skills to murder a bald eagle with a shotgun.

Who What Now posted:

Or, you know, it's a dream shotgun that shoots dream bullets.

Small Frozen Thing posted:

lol, you got Ironknuckled son

PupsOfWar posted:

I'm just surprised her spirit-vision was comfortable ascribing that degree of martial prowess to Obama.

He should have had to detail a team of Black Panthers and thuggish Chicago alderman to shoot the eagle down using a Bofors.

DoctorWhat posted:

Well, yeah, it's not a "war crime" in peacetime. Which is kinda hosed up.

How Thomas Jefferson Responded to Islam in 1801 Puts Barack H. Obama to Shame posted:

The radical Islamic jihadists that make up the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria are engaged in a war to reestablish the former Islamic Caliphate and spread their version of fundamentalist Islam around the world.

This is really nothing new, as radical Islamists have been waging jihad against “infidel” unbelievers since their inception in 800 AD.

As our current Islamist-sympathizer president, Barack Obama, wages a “phony war” against the Islamic State and apologizes to Muslims around the world on behalf of so-called American imperialism, he has done little more than encourage the Islamists by allowing them to set the Middle East on fire.

Obama should really pick up a history book sometime, and read about how one of his predecessors, and one of our nation’s Founding Fathers, handled the threat posed by radical Islamic jihadists, way back in 1801.

The Young Cons recently shared a short history lesson about how Thomas Jefferson responded to radical Islamic kidnappings, beheadings, and extortion, long before oil or American imperialism were concerns for our fledgling country that was just trying to survive.

The threat that Jefferson was compelled to face off against originated from what was called the Berber states, or Barbary Coast, a collection of semi-autonomous Islamic states in North Africa that were part of the greater Ottoman Empire, including Algiers, Morocco, Tripoli, and Tunis.

The Barbary states had a habit of sending out pirate ships to attack and capture merchant ships passing through the Mediterranean Sea. They would kidnap the crews of the ship and either hold them for high ransoms from their home countries, or force them to convert to Islam, or simply kill them.

In 1786, while serving as an Ambassador for the new United States, Jefferson asked Tripoli’s Ambassador to Great Britain what right the Barbary states had that allowed them to kidnap and slaughter the innocent crews of passing merchant ships.

According to Jefferson, Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja replied that Islam “was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Qur’an, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman [Muslim] who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

In essence, the Ambassador from Tripoli stated that their religion, Islam, gave them the right to kidnap and murder and enslave those who held different beliefs. Jefferson took this information to heart and remembered it well. He also spent time studying the Koran himself, to gain a better understanding of the enemy his young nation was facing.

In 1801, when Jefferson was president, the Pasha of Tripoli suddenly demanded a massive payment from the United States, along with an increased annual tribute, in order to secure safe passage for American ships through the Mediterranean.

Jefferson refused the demands of the Pasha, and instead of sending more money and acquiescing to the angry and demanding Muslims, he sent naval warships bearing the newly created U.S. Marine Corps.

This was the first war by the American nation on foreign soil, and is where the line “to the shores of Tripoli” in the Marine Corps hymn comes from. It is also believed that the term “Leathernecks,” which refers to Marines, comes from the thick leather neck coverings that the Marines wore to protect themselves from being beheaded by the giant swords wielded by the Barbary pirates.

Thomas Jefferson showed how a U.S. president should respond to threats from radical Islamists, and that is by confronting and defeating them. Obama could certainly stand to learn a lesson from Jefferson.

Scruff McGruff posted:

The crazy conservative Christian lady on my facebook just posted a link to this article.
http://conservativetribune.com/jeffersons-response-to-islam/


Because of course military tactics from 1801 would totally still work today. That's why we sent in Dragoons to Iraq mounted on steeds with lances. I also love that it's conclusion of what needs to be done to win is "confronting them and defeating them". I am also really tempted to quote the Treaty of Tripoli on the whole not a Christian nation thing too. Also, isn't Obama a secret Musilim? So he's probably studied the Koran too right?

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It is also believed that the term “Leathernecks,” which refers to Marines, comes from the thick leather neck coverings that the Marines wore to protect themselves from being beheaded by the giant swords wielded by the Barbary pirates.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

It's law enforcement, not a military purpose. At this time I do believe the NYPD is still a legitimate police force in NYC, rather than a foreign occupying power. (Although considering how they treat their civilian overseer in chief, maybe we'll need to find a police variation on "coup")

duz posted:

Except the NYPD also likes to pretend they're the FBI and shows up at locations around the world to "help".

quote:

1) It served as protection to the neck and critical veins during battle (though in most battle situations this uniform accessory was not practical for wear because it prevented free movement of the neck).

2)It held a Marine’s neck erect while on parade, giving him a great military bearing by forcing the wearer to hold his chin high. Major General George F. Elliot, a Marine of the Spanish American War era, is quoted as saying the wearers looked “like geese looking for rain”.

Scruff McGruff posted:

The crazy conservative Christian lady on my facebook just posted a link to this article.
http://conservativetribune.com/jeffersons-response-to-islam/


Because of course military tactics from 1801 would totally still work today. That's why we sent in Dragoons to Iraq mounted on steeds with lances. I also love that it's conclusion of what needs to be done to win is "confronting them and defeating them". I am also really tempted to quote the Treaty of Tripoli on the whole not a Christian nation thing too. Also, isn't Obama a secret Musilim? So he's probably studied the Koran too right?

WoodrowSkillson posted:

From a quick google


They did wear them, but leather does not stop swords, unlike what video games and movies would have you believe, so the alternative uniform based explanation is probably more likely to be true.

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Pedestrian Xing posted:

Reggie has to be trolling.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Don't forget, the enemy is both so staggeringly incompetent that we'll win the fight tomorrow but so unimaginably powerful and clever that they could strike anywhere at any time and destroy everything in one swoop.