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LordPants posted:I know, but UFC seem to be losing public perception battle regardless. They should probably "suspend" Jones for dumb period of time (Y'know, till his next fight) and then announce it's UFC policy to suspend people who test positive for illegal drugs out of competition. It's because the perception is they tried to cover up a positive drug test by a champion that they knew about for a month (including, officially, from the fighter himself) that would have gotten any other fighter in the company suspended or fired. The issue being that's exactly what transpired and they can't spin it by trying to make Jones to be viewed as the victim as Jones was already known for playing the victim card over and over and over again. There is no public perception battle here as much as trying to hold back the ocean.
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I think most people don't really care and in a few weeks everyone is going to be talking about Anderson Silva anyway.
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Lid posted:It's because the perception is they tried to cover up a positive drug test by a champion that they knew about for a month (including, officially, from the fighter himself) that would have gotten any other fighter in the company suspended or fired. The issue being that's exactly what transpired and they can't spin it by trying to make Jones to be viewed as the victim as Jones was already known for playing the victim card over and over and over again. There is no public perception battle here as much as trying to hold back the ocean. No one is getting fired for a first time out of competition cocaine positive. Melvin wasn't fired for testing positive in competition.
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Jones is the greatest LHW of all time and also a massive rear end in a top hat who is guaranteed to self-destruct in the next couple of years. Which will be entertaining to watch, although I hope he stacks some paper for that eventuality, unlike Tyson.
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LordPants posted:I know, but UFC seem to be losing public perception battle regardless. They should probably "suspend" Jones for dumb period of time (Y'know, till his next fight) and then announce it's UFC policy to suspend people who test positive for illegal drugs out of competition. There is no public perception battle because nobody gives a poo poo. Nobody fighters in nothing divisions shouldn't take shots at the ufc and money fighters when they gently caress up, because it makes them look worse when they already look bad, which will lead to them getting cut and posting mad tweets.
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Keven. Just. Keven posted:There is no public perception battle because nobody gives a poo poo. Nobody fighters in nothing divisions shouldn't take shots at the ufc and money fighters when they gently caress up, because it makes them look worse when they already look bad, which will lead to them getting cut and posting mad tweets. This. In competition vs out of competition is a much bigger differentiator here than Jon Jones getting special celebrity treatment. Also, do you really need a drug test to tell you that a young UFC champion who is cocky as gently caress has been doing coke off of the asses of Brazilian strippers? No, of course not. poo poo is elementary. If you were him you'd be doing coke too. The big surprise is that Also, on a much cooler note, watching that Bendo vs Cerrone 1 fight (which I hadn't seen before) on YouTube has convinced me of a few things. 1. Bendo actually used to be sort of cool. Definitive proof that back wings have a direct negative correlation to awesome fighting. See also: dogtag tattoos and tattoos of people's faces (Johnny Cash excluded, Belcher's fat Elvis gently kissing Cote goodnight ruled). 2. Cerrone may be a retarded drunken redneck but gently caress is he a cool-to-watch punchman. 3. This fight should be loving rad, unless Cerrone is frozen solid from sitting in his loving RV in a Boston winter and Bendo is able to execute his 'big wet blanket with a toothpick' gameplan. 4. Most importantly, someone needs to finally retire the shambling corpse that was once Frank Mir before he is punched completely retarded so he can get back to commentating, because dude was great at it and I would take him over Florian or Stann any day.
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http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/2405154/Hypothetical-Coke-Dealer-Question/?pc=211 wes sims, in his inimitable style, is saying that one of the coaches at jackson's is a coke dealer
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Triticum Guzzler posted:http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/2405154/Hypothetical-Coke-Dealer-Question/?pc=211 Wasn't Melvin a Jackson fighter too?
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Doresain posted:4. Most importantly, someone needs to finally retire the shambling corpse that was once Frank Mir before he is punched completely retarded so he can get back to commentating, because dude was great at it and I would take him over Florian or Stann any day. try watching torres/mizugaki before committing to this
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Triticum Guzzler posted:http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/2405154/Hypothetical-Coke-Dealer-Question/?pc=211 I agree with the person who said "try to get some fans"
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Dangersim posted:I think most people don't really care and in a few weeks everyone is going to be talking about Anderson Silva anyway.
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Lid posted:Wasn't Melvin a Jackson fighter too? Yes, but Melvin popped for cocaine way back in 2007, and AFAIK he didn't go to Albuquerque until late 2009. I mean, if somebody on Jackson's coaching staff is a dealer that couldn't possibly have been good for Guillard, but it didn't get him started or anything. Mostly I'm enjoying the image of some guy trying to sell cocaine to Cerrone, and Cowboy just saying, "nah man winners don't do drugs" and then immediately shotgunning three tallboys in under a minute.
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Jan 10, 2015 16:04
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Cerrone has probably tried everything under the sun only to find that nothing matches jumping a jetski through a flaming hoop.
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Jan 10, 2015 16:19
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I don't now about your gyms but every one I've been has a dude who can get you things so it doesn't surprise me.
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remember lenny garcia getting arrested for being part of a coke ring
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no, I try to forget that Leonard Garcia is a thing that happened for a while
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Jan 10, 2015 17:14
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Ronda Rousey is now training with Jens Pulver. http://t.co/lvGJIJHpQC
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Triticum Guzzler posted:remember lenny garcia getting arrested for being part of a coke ring I feel like if mma had journalists, this would be a real thing
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Triticum Guzzler posted:remember lenny garcia getting arrested for being part of a coke ring I don't remember, but I'm going to guess that he was obviously guilty but two judges gave him a 29-28 anyway.
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Lamadrid posted:I don't now about your gyms but every one I've been has a dude who can get you things so it doesn't surprise me. And its normally the staff or regulars and not a random guy.
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Cody McKenzie kind of ownsquote:McKenzie said he has deleted all of his social media accounts and won't do any more interviews. He's not going to get involved in the antitrust lawsuit filed against the UFC last week, because he doesn't believe in suing and the litigious nature of the current-day United States. quote:"I would love to fight Dana White," McKenzie said. "I'd love to beat him up. He talks bad about fighters all the time, disrespects fighters. Yeah, he's a piece of work." More good stuff here: http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/1/10/7448311/ex-ufc-fighter-cody-mckenzie-would-fight-dana-white-for-free-id-love
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the rest of that interview is cool but the "litigious nature of the United States" thing is just something that stupid people say
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manyak posted:the rest of that interview is cool but the "litigious nature of the United States" thing is just something that stupid people say it's very surprising to hear Cody McKenzie say something stupid
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Fat Twitter Man posted:it's very surprising to hear Cody McKenzie say something stupid oh i get it. because hes stupid?
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manyak posted:the rest of that interview is cool but the "litigious nature of the United States" thing is just something that stupid people say http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21571141-cheaper-legal-education-and-more-liberal-rules-would-benefit-americas-lawyersand-their "America has more lawyers per person of its population than any of 29 countries studied (except Greece), and it spends two to three times as much on its tort system, as a percentage of GDP, as other big economies (except Italy, where things are nearly as bad)." ...but the problem might be judges and procedure rather than an especially sue-happy culture: http://www.law.harvard.edu/programs/olin_center/papers/pdf/Ramseyer_681.pdf "We suggest that the notoriety of the U.S. does not result from the way citizens and judges handle routine disputes, which is not very different from in other wealthy, democratic societies. Instead, American notoriety results from the peculiarly dysfunctional way judges handle disputes in discrete legal areas such as class actions and punitive damages."
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manyak posted:the rest of that interview is cool but the "litigious nature of the United States" thing is just something that stupid people say Just because stupid people say something a lot doesn't make it untrue.
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Lid posted:So Ashley Evans-Smith tested positive for a diuretic and that means its time for everyone to throw the UFCs own words back at them McLeish's first response was much better quote:She takes flowers, weird sh-t. It could possibly be that.
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Ditch posted:We do have a lot of lawyers and spend a lot on the system: Yeah its not cheap or efficient i just mean the talking point idea that Americans sue at the drop of a hat because theyre complainers or whatever
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acai moonsault posted:rory vs lombard ufc 186 in montreal heck yeah two plausible murderers
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Ditch posted:We do have a lot of lawyers and spend a lot on the system: This is a good point. When you think about it, there are a lot of muslims in africa, that's just facts. And there are a lot of war crimes there. Now I'm not saying anything beyond that but those are both true.
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acai moonsault posted:rory vs lombard ufc 186 in montreal I really want to see 15 minutes of someone motionless behind Rory's jab again.
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SaberToothedPie posted:heck yeah two plausible murderers lombard would at most be an accessory to murder because we would just stand and watch and do nothing
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Fat Twitter Man posted:I really want to see 15 minutes of someone motionless behind Rory's jab again. Yeah, this reeks of a Macdonald/Woodley reprise.
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Jan 10, 2015 21:22
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Fat Twitter Man posted:I really want to see 15 minutes of someone motionless behind Rory's jab again. Same but unironically. if Rory keeps jabbing all the lil roided up frontrunner guys out of title contention ill start to love him as much as that person here who thinks hes hot somehow
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If we can force a weird canadian to have boring fights, maybe casual fans will tune back into this post-GSP world
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Rory is probably enough evidence for GSP to believe aliens are here among us
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there's no mma today so we're watching UFC 43: Meltdown in pspmma's taima
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