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Shinjobi posted:Teaching Muslims how to speak American could help the situation: confirm/deny? True. All those who are touched by American culture are transformed and infused with the ideals of free trade, liberty and justice. Maybe America could offer citizenship to this prosecuted minority. By now it must be clear Europe is unable to deal with this, America will once more solve our problems.
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paranoid randroid posted:i know very little about bakunin but dont care because i was grabbing a name out of the air to make a lazy joke about how my previous post was a rambling condemnatory joke about people posting lazy jokes about ethnic cleansing on the internet Sounds like the right attitude to have toward Bakunin 
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we should educate muslims in the American technique of filling the aching hollowness of modernity with cheap snacks, instead of religious radicalism. cram your discontent with ding-dongs, Achmed.
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Jan 13, 2015 20:32
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I thought Muslims were born in little mucus pods like Peter Jackson's orcs
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Jan 13, 2015 20:34
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paranoid randroid posted:we should educate muslims in the American technique of filling the aching hollowness of modernity with cheap snacks, instead of religious radicalism. cram your discontent with ding-dongs, Achmed. Muslim countries invariably have the best cheap snacks already. It's like the one good thing they have down.
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Frog Act posted:by bakunin's beard I literally lol'd
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Jan 13, 2015 20:35
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All religious people are horrible. But not as bad as those Charlie Hebdo cartoons. Did people in France actually buy that poo poo? All political cartoons pretty much suck, but theirs look like they were drawn by high school kids with learning disabilities and no artistic talent. I don't know... maybe I'm missing something, like some kind of "l'arte merde" movement where the shittiness of the drawings is some sort of social commentary in itself.
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Jan 13, 2015 20:59
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So where do people see Charlie Hebdo in relation to the Westborough Baptist Church?
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Jan 13, 2015 21:00
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Luvcow posted:So where do people see Charlie Hebdo in relation to the Westborough Baptist Church? One wants to strip people of their rights because of their extremist religious views and one mocks people who want to strip people of their rights because of their extremist religious views. So, polar opposites? But if you meant artistically, they are about on the same level.
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Jan 13, 2015 21:07
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Jan 13, 2015 21:12
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so is gbs afraid of all cartoons now? anime is only for unbelievers, FYI
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Jan 13, 2015 21:26
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i think its v funny that suddenly the whole loving world is tripping themselves up in their rush to fawn over some trashy racist magazine no one gave a gently caress 3 days ago the real joke here is that now we are supposed to take the french equivalent of sambo cartoons seriously
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Jan 13, 2015 21:28
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babypolis posted:the real joke here is that now we are supposed to take the french equivalent of sambo cartoons seriously obviously someone did, we wouldn't be talking about it otherwise
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Jan 13, 2015 21:38
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hemale in pain posted:you can get arrested here for saying nasty things on facebook, so i think you could probably also get arrested for owning a magazine. http://tellmamauk.org/ loving lol run to mama if someone hurt your feelings lmao we become the enemy when freedom dies for security
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Jan 13, 2015 21:40
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babypolis posted:i think its v funny that suddenly the whole loving world is tripping themselves up in their rush to fawn over some trashy racist magazine no one gave a gently caress 3 days ago its also a real laugh riot, that even a loving print magazine with loyal readership of like 4 persons, cannot stop offending shitheads from destroyed countries in the middle of a desert, thousands of miles away. does that mean ISIS could behead goons, if their shitposting offends them?
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Jan 13, 2015 21:40
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Jan 13, 2015 21:45
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1gnoirents posted:really why do these shitbags exist anyway. whats the appeal Agreed. I mean I can draw stink lines on my own childish drawing of an Arab, so who needs these cartoonists anyway?
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Jan 13, 2015 21:47
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Agag posted:Agreed. I mean I can draw stink lines on my own childish drawing of an Arab, so who needs these cartoonists anyway? but you could offend someone and make them buthurt and they would have no choice but to kill you. do you really want to take that chance?
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Jan 13, 2015 21:49
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“Baiting extremists isn’t bravely defiant when your manner of doing so is more significant in offending millions of moderate people as well. And within a climate where violent response — however illegitimate — is a real risk, taking a goading stand on a principle virtually no one contests is worse than pointless: it’s pointlessly all about you.” QFT
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Pajser posted:its also a real laugh riot, that even a loving print magazine with loyal readership of like 4 persons, cannot stop offending shitheads from destroyed countries in the middle of a desert, thousands of miles away. lol you loving retard im not saying it was right to kill those people. of course murder is wrong. what bothers me is the wests response which is emotional and stupid and legitimizes a trashy rag no one should care about while ignoring/avoiding any of the real problems that led to this In Drywall posted:“Baiting extremists isn’t bravely defiant when your manner of doing so is more significant in offending millions of moderate people as well. And within a climate where violent response — however illegitimate — is a real risk, taking a goading stand on a principle virtually no one contests is worse than pointless: it’s pointlessly all about you.” basically this. its sad that they died but the narrative being built right now, that these hack "journalists" were champions of free speech, fighting for all that is good in this world, is loving retarded babypolis fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Jan 13, 2015 21:56
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In Drywall posted:“Baiting extremists isn’t bravely defiant when your manner of doing so is more significant in offending millions of moderate people as well." Except when baiting them has a good get you killed, while the "millions of moderate people" sit on the fence looking on.
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Jan 13, 2015 22:00
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Iamblikhos posted:Except when baiting them has a good get you killed, while the "millions of moderate people" sit on the fence looking on. Hmm, collective responsibility. Yeah, I remember when millions of Westerners acted to stop the systematic murder of Muslim civilians by the most advanced and expensive armies in history. I was proud to be a Westerner that day I can tell you.
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Agag posted:systematic murder of Muslim civilians LOL
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Jan 13, 2015 22:04
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Iamblikhos posted:Except when baiting them has a good get you killed, while the "millions of moderate people" sit on the fence looking on. you deserve your ironknuckle avatar sinceyou are just as retarded as he is
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Jan 13, 2015 22:05
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im very much alright with everybody mocking and making fun of the French again
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Jan 13, 2015 22:06
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Fat Lowtax posted:
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babypolis posted:you deserve your ironknuckle avatar sinceyou are just as retarded as he is Clearly you know me better than I know myself
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Jan 13, 2015 22:07
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What was the point of making those stupid cartoons? Did the newspaper think it would shame the extremists into acting better? Or perhaps it was strictly a "gently caress you" from the newspaper to the extremists. Someone explain what did it serve to publish that poo poo? I know that if you wanted to have an open dialogue with the extremists then mocking something they hold sacred probably isn't the best way to do it. And gently caress no I'm not Charlie the rag magazine and couldn't care less of the cartoonists who died just like I don't feel bad for Steve Irwin playing with a sting ray and getting skewered.
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Jan 13, 2015 22:08
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What is the point of posting? 
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Tony Homo posted:I know that if you wanted to have an open dialogue with the extremists then mocking something they hold sacred probably isn't the best way to do it. You don't want to have "open dialogue" with extremists. Part of what makes extremists extremists is that open dialogue with them is unproductive. Mocking them, on the other hand, can at least be therapeutic.
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Jan 13, 2015 22:12
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I like how for English speakers who don't think about politics with any more subtlety or complexity than I think about hockey, Charlie Hebdo were either immediately Heroes Standing At The Gates of Eurabia or Evil Racist Provocateurs (Go Rangers)
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Fat Lowtax posted:I like how for English speakers who don't think about politics with any more subtlety or complexity than I think about hockey, Charlie Hebdo were either immediately Heroes Standing At The Gates of Eurabia or Evil Racist Provocateurs Just Englsh speakers?
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babypolis posted:i think its v funny that suddenly the whole loving world is tripping themselves up in their rush to fawn over some trashy racist magazine no one gave a gently caress 3 days ago the people working at Charlie Hebdo didnt kill anyone and the horrible quote about how they preferred cartoons so heres bullets from their magazine (Inspire) either makes no loving sense or proves outright its made to insight violence and should be banned like it has been in many countries. so instead of embracing free speech theyre outright admitting that yes theyre dangerous angsty teenage fuckwads and should be treated as such. there is no right in killing somebody over words, sorry youre dumb Drunk & Ugly fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Fat Lowtax posted:I like how for English speakers who don't think about politics with any more subtlety or complexity than I think about hockey, Charlie Hebdo were either immediately Heroes Standing At The Gates of Eurabia or Evil Racist Provocateurs they were one of the few magazines in France that had the balls to stand up and say what needed to be said so yeah, they were kind of important
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Drunk & Ugly posted:the people working at that magazine didnt kill anyone and the horrible quote about bullets from their magazine either makes no loving sense or proves outright its made to insight violence and should be banned like it has been in many countries. so instead of embracing free speech theyre outright admitting that yes theyre dangerous angsty teenage fuckwads and should be treated as such. Yeah, killing people is wrong. Also, Charlie Hebdo is an unfunny racist piece of poo poo magazine that nobody cared about two weeks ago. So there's no conflict here.
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babypolis posted:lol you loving retard im not saying it was right to kill those people. of course murder is wrong. what bothers me is the wests response which is emotional and stupid and legitimizes a trashy rag no one should care about while ignoring/avoiding any of the real problems that led to this for every concern troll championing caricaturists they never heard of before there is an idiot claiming that their "baiting" is what got them killed. In Drywall posted:“Baiting extremists isn’t bravely defiant when your manner of doing so is more significant in offending millions of moderate people as well. And within a climate where violent response — however illegitimate — is a real risk, taking a goading stand on a principle virtually no one contests is worse than pointless: it’s pointlessly all about you.” so if a nationalist frenchman decides that "this drivel offends the Great French Nation which I consider a Real God" and starts killing, his actions can be completely justified and blamed on the victim or victims, because they didnt consider the risk of a "violent response in this climate". Pajser fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Agag posted:Yeah, killing people is wrong. Also, Charlie Hebdo is an unfunny racist piece of poo poo magazine that nobody cared about two weeks ago. So there's no conflict here. just because they pissed off some brown people doesnt make them racist
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Jan 13, 2015 22:23
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Last time I checked CH's racism level was 12pHtl (picoHitlers) while Fox News clocked at a hefty 5.6 mHtl (milliHitlers) so there you go.
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Drunk & Ugly posted:just because they pissed off some brown people doesnt make them racist I've seen a bunch of the cartoons, they are racist poo poo. Also, LOL if you think this attack was specifically about this one magazine and three dudes getting mad about some cartoons they saw. Like a decade long war of mutual murder and atrocity is incidental.
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