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Tip for new players: Dont do elf Also be very scared if you see someone called mara
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My biggest problem when I was starting out (and even still) is that I'd rush through things and die with five potions of heal wounds that I'd completely forgotten about. Whenever you're in a tight spot, go through all your consumables and see if any of them might help.
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Jan 18, 2015 10:06
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vOv posted:My biggest problem when I was starting out (and even still) is that I'd rush through things and die with five potions of heal wounds that I'd completely forgotten about. Whenever you're in a tight spot, go through all your consumables and see if any of them might help. picking a weaker starting combo helps you get better at this because you end up in a lovely spot constantly. With a minotaur you might press o and tab for 5 minutes before anything dangerous shows up.
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Jan 18, 2015 10:31
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Jan 18, 2015 12:15
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vOv posted:My biggest problem when I was starting out (and even still) is that I'd rush through things and die with five potions of heal wounds that I'd completely forgotten about. Whenever you're in a tight spot, go through all your consumables and see if any of them might help. As an addendum to this, when you think you might be in trouble slow down as much as you can before doing anything. I think there's an instinct to speed up when you're running away from something, but you have to fight this and take it a step at a time.
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Jan 18, 2015 12:23
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Slaapaav posted:picking a weaker starting combo helps you get better at this because you end up in a lovely spot constantly. With a minotaur you might press o and tab for 5 minutes before anything dangerous shows up. My first ascension was with SpAK, you have several layers of safety for "oh poo poo" moments, but it also required good knowledge of how to use everything you find. Coincidentally, I also had an experienced Crawler coaching me whenever I was stuck, which helped a lot 
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Jan 18, 2015 12:25
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Also this is a reminder that caustic shrikes are still bullshit and Lasty is an incompetent muppet of a developer.
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Jan 18, 2015 12:27
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My HOAr just got abyssed on Elf 3. Is he strong enough to go for the abyss rune or should I hold off? I don't think he has any glaring weaknesses, but then there's Crawl. http://pastebin.com/8Zhxj4nh
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Jan 18, 2015 15:28
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protomexican posted:Is he strong enough to go for the abyss rune or should I hold off?
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Jan 18, 2015 15:32
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Davzz posted:Weapon's iffy, but everything else, I think you can probably pull it off.
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Jan 18, 2015 15:38
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It's like a +8 demon whip or so while the charges last!!
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Jan 18, 2015 15:53
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If you are strong (stupid) enough to do elf then you should be just fine in the abyss
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Jan 18, 2015 16:01
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Heithinn Grasida posted:Don't move towards enemies, especially enemies standing near unexplored territory. Let enemies come to you. If you run into something with a ranged attack, duck around a corner and let it approach you from out of your line of sight. Enemies that can't see you, can't attack you. Try to explore so that you always have a corridor or a corner to run back to so you can avoid being caught in the open by ranged attackers. These are the really crucial points. Doesn't matter what your race/class combo is if you consistently get surrounded by jackals/orcs/yaks and pummeled, or charge forward to fight Jessica, and discover Sigmund and Grinder are right there. Play cautiously, and remember that the game is turn-based: stop and think things through when you're in a bad situation, maybe even save, quit, and come back in a little bit. As Heithinn says, Offense over Defense. Improve your "kill dudes" skill before your "don't die skills." When to switch between leveling what skill is something that comes from experience and I'm still figuring it out myself, but the basic is "Weapon skill to min. delay (0.7)" and "spell skill to put your main kill-spell at high spellpower". Also, don't give up and always try again.
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Jan 18, 2015 16:02
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I think I found a bug in trunk with Ru. I was training Evocations and then sacrificed artifice which sets evo to 0 and stops letting me train it, but now it doesn't show up on the skills screen and I can't deselect it, so all of my exp is split between whatever I'm actually training and my non-existant evo category. screenshot:  I have a wand in my inventory but I still can't deselect it. If I'm doing something dumb (aside from playing poorly) and there's an easy fix, let me know.
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Jan 18, 2015 16:10
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Try using a capital letter to put 100% into that skill? Like shift+a should put 100% into fighting.
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Jan 18, 2015 16:13
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kaschei posted:Try using a capital letter to put 100% into that skill? Like shift+a should put 100% into fighting. That did the trick, thanks.
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Jan 18, 2015 16:16
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rediscover posted:i've been getting into this game the past couple days, and i'm really in over my head. do you guys have any tidbits that could help a newbie out? what race/class combos are good, mechanics, etc. i'm totally lost.  see where it says 'Base attack delay' and 'Minimum delay'? The higher your weapon skill, the faster you can attack with the weapon. Base delay is how fast you attack with no skill, and every 2 skill removes 0.1 delay. So, since this one is 1.0 base delay, 0.5 minimum delay, if I get 10 short blades skill my attack speed will be as fast as it can go(and hitting fast really really helps with putting out damage). In case you're really really lost, when you hit m this pops up:  and then if you hit /, it switches from Auto to Manual so you can choose exactly where XP goes. If I hit shift+b for short blades, it will turn off everything but that so I can focus on training it up.  Also, armor has an encumbrance value. Don't wear armor if the encumbrance is higher than your strength.
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Jan 18, 2015 16:32
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Jan 18, 2015 17:04
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Haifisch posted:This happened for buttbot language too. My guess is that the new language stacking broke something. quote:Support fakelang stacking pre:fake_lang = <lang1>[,<lang2>[,...]]
Set one or more fake languages, applied in the order provided (order
does matter!) The same language can be set more than once, though it
may not end up making much sense...
Options are: (dwarven|jagerkin|kraut|runes|wide|grunt|butt)
Experiment to find out what they do!
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Jan 18, 2015 17:08
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Haifisch posted:This happened for buttbot language too. My guess is that the new language stacking broke something. Yeah, looks like you have to use fake_lang=butt or in my current experiment... fake_lang=grunt,butt  Trying to optimize the silliness because multiple iterations of butt,grunt,butt,butt,butt will probably arse the server to DANG and back.
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Jan 18, 2015 17:17
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PleasingFungus posted:
 Reading is good, kids.
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Jan 18, 2015 17:22
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rediscover posted:do you guys have any tidbits that could help a newbie out? If not then Troll-anything is fun for the first few levels. Just run face-first into things and they die. Aside from that ignore all these "Good Players" and their berserkers. Conjurer is the best choice. Shoot everything from half way across the screen and learn to run. Eventually you get the giant screen-wiping spells and the game goes into easy mode.
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Jan 18, 2015 17:23
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y - Kikubaaqudgha's Butt of Butt Souls e: 
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Jan 18, 2015 17:43
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Noise: Almost silent. 
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Jan 18, 2015 17:51
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PleasingFungus posted:
I love you.
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Jan 18, 2015 19:33
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 Crawl is rated M for Mature.
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Jan 18, 2015 20:28
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Haifisch posted:Crawl is rated B for Butts.
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Jan 18, 2015 20:30
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WereVolvo posted:
For even more fun, try "fake_lang = grunt, grunt, grunt, grunt".
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Jan 18, 2015 20:40
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Not My Leg posted:Related. Probably should just win with this OpMo but it feels like a waste when I can 2-shot orbs of fire. My main concern is that Chei + Statue Form is one of those combos that makes you absolutely unstoppable right up to the moment it makes you dead. There are very few things that can actually suddenly kill you in one shot with Chei/Statue Form unless you're foolish enough to walk around with Hellfire as a present danger. Outside Hellfire I can't think of anything else that can instagib you. Even with Hellfire, you'll have about 300+ HP in statue form and should be fine as long as you stay topped off as you walk around.
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Jan 18, 2015 21:11
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Does AC mitigate pure elemental damage, like by frost clouds and bolts of fire and such?
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Jan 18, 2015 22:04
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Mr. Lobe posted:Does AC mitigate pure elemental damage, like by frost clouds and bolts of fire and such? Pretty sure it only protects against Earth Magic.
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Jan 18, 2015 22:04
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As Lawman 0 says, only Earth Magic takes into consideration your AC when calculating the damage dealt. This is why having a single pip of elemental resistance is important; it halves the potential damage (further pips reduce it to 1/3 and 1/5, respectively).
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Jan 18, 2015 22:10
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Lawman 0 posted:Pretty sure it only protects against Earth Magic. No, it protects against basically everything. e: quote:As Lawman 0 says, only Earth Magic takes into consideration your AC when calculating the damage dealt. This is why having a single pip of elemental resistance is important; it halves the potential damage (further pips reduce it to 1/3 and 1/5, respectively). This also definitely isn't true. AC protects against bolt of fire, cold, fireball, etc.
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Jan 18, 2015 22:11
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Huh, you're right. Learned something new!quote:armour
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Jan 18, 2015 22:18
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I don't think clouds check AC. The rule-of-thumb I've heard works best (it still has a couple minor quibbles that I can't remember) is "if it checks EV, it checks AC." edit: looking at that spell list I'm probably wrong
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Jan 18, 2015 22:53
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kaschei posted:I don't think clouds check AC. The rule-of-thumb I've heard works best (it still has a couple minor quibbles that I can't remember) is "if it checks EV, it checks AC." I'm pretty sure which clouds may or may not check AC, depending on the cloud. You can look it up using the brand new ?/L command though!
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Jan 18, 2015 23:01
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The Mattybee posted:Also this is a reminder that caustic shrikes are still bullshit and Lasty is an incompetent muppet of a developer. 
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Jan 18, 2015 23:41
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One of the Orc:4 shops in my offline run was a mimic. Rude, Crawl. Rude. 
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