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Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority

HogX posted:

Holy poo poo I checked the .gif thread and is it the loving return of NWO? What episode did this happen?!

It was just the other day. They reformed to ignore The Miz.

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Deep Thoreau
Aug 16, 2008

Shine posted:

It was just the other day. They reformed to ignore The Miz.

The best reason to do so, imo

Deep Thoreau
Aug 16, 2008

So is x-pac sober these days? I can't remember, and I've heard Hall may have fallen off the wagon again?

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer
PWG is loving amazing, but every time I watch it and see/hear the strikes, all I can think is that they're stiffing the dogfuck out of each other and possibly concussing one another. Are they just really good at selling?

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

HogX posted:

So is x-pac sober these days? I can't remember, and I've heard Hall may have fallen off the wagon again?

He says he's been clean and sober since Kevin Nash flew him to rehab after a suicide attempt in Mexico in 2011 I think?

Hall's a recovering alcoholic and falling off the wagon sometimes is to be expected. It's not like they found him wandering around an airport with no pants on.

Mob
May 7, 2002

Me reading your posts

SamuraiFoochs posted:

PWG is loving amazing, but every time I watch it and see/hear the strikes, all I can think is that they're stiffing the dogfuck out of each other and possibly concussing one another. Are they just really good at selling?

PWG is an acronym that stands for Slap Your Leg World Wrestling Federation

Spermgod
Jan 8, 2012

pink wasn't even a thing why is t#RXT REVOLUTION~!
and i'm so fucking excited for #SCOOPS#SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS
:sludgepal:
he knows..
lol and here i was thinking that stuff was cartoony and corny and nobody buys it anyway

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

SamuraiFoochs posted:

PWG is loving amazing, but every time I watch it and see/hear the strikes, all I can think is that they're stiffing the dogfuck out of each other and possibly concussing one another. Are they just really good at selling?

i've seen a handful of matches where guys are actually stiffing each other but that slapping sound isn't a thing that happens when you hit someone with any part of your body. It's just a tiny room where leg slaps carry

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Luigi Thirty posted:

He says he's been clean and sober since Kevin Nash flew him to rehab after a suicide attempt in Mexico in 2011 I think?

Hall's a recovering alcoholic and falling off the wagon sometimes is to be expected. It's not like they found him wandering around an airport with no pants on.

Kevin Nash is the best friend anyone could have

Monkeycheese
Feb 24, 2002

ninja minúsculo

oatgan posted:

that slapping sound isn't a thing that happens when you hit someone with any part of your body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wnZOPSodtI

Jetfire
Apr 29, 2008
So, does anyone else know the concrete origins of the term "heel-face turn"? I saw it in a fashion article and it never occurred to me that it might have originated from a term describing how models turn around at the end of a runway.

Beef Jerky Robot
Sep 20, 2009

"And the DICK?"

Spermgod posted:

lol and here i was thinking that stuff was cartoony and corny and nobody buys it anyway

Turns out it's actually cool as hell and also suck a butt

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Jetfire posted:

So, does anyone else know the concrete origins of the term "heel-face turn"? I saw it in a fashion article and it never occurred to me that it might have originated from a term describing how models turn around at the end of a runway.

It's because a heel is turning into a face, or vice versa

Monkeycheese
Feb 24, 2002

ninja minúsculo

Jetfire posted:

So, does anyone else know the concrete origins of the term "heel-face turn"? I saw it in a fashion article and it never occurred to me that it might have originated from a term describing how models turn around at the end of a runway.

that is maybe an instance of a similar term meaning absolutely different things in different contexts, like jerk in a recipe book means something different than jerk on a porn site. In wrestling context it's definitely from the terms "heel" and "babyface"

Jetfire
Apr 29, 2008

Monkeycheese posted:

that is maybe an instance of a similar term meaning absolutely different things in different contexts, like jerk in a recipe book means something different than jerk on a porn site. In wrestling context it's definitely from the terms "heel" and "babyface"

That's certainly true, but I wonder if it was originally appropriated from something in fashion, or other stage theatre? Like, why "heel"? It makes sense in the context of fashion or stage.

Monkeycheese
Feb 24, 2002

ninja minúsculo

Jetfire posted:

That's certainly true, but I wonder if it was originally appropriated from something in fashion, or other stage theatre? Like, why "heel"? It makes sense in the context of fashion or stage.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=heel

quote:

heel (n.2) Look up heel at Dictionary.com
"contemptible person," 1914 in U.S. underworld slang, originally "incompetent or worthless criminal," perhaps from a sense of "person in the lowest position" and thus from heel (n.1).

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

oatgan posted:

i've seen a handful of matches where guys are actually stiffing each other but that slapping sound isn't a thing that happens when you hit someone with any part of your body. It's just a tiny room where leg slaps carry

Well kudos to them then because it sounds BRUTAL and when combined with the sells, it makes it seem like murder.

Spermgod
Jan 8, 2012

pink wasn't even a thing why is t#RXT REVOLUTION~!
and i'm so fucking excited for #SCOOPS#SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS
:sludgepal:
he knows..

Jetfire posted:

So, does anyone else know the concrete origins of the term "heel-face turn"? I saw it in a fashion article and it never occurred to me that it might have originated from a term describing how models turn around at the end of a runway.

lmao what on earth

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Jetfire posted:

So, does anyone else know the concrete origins of the term "heel-face turn"? I saw it in a fashion article and it never occurred to me that it might have originated from a term describing how models turn around at the end of a runway.
To give a more complete explanation, it means a heel is turning into a babyface. "Heel" is old slang for "rear end in a top hat." The meaning of babyface should be obvious. These terms originated when booking was centralized (particularly in NYC), but had to be relayed through telegrams and telephone operators, so they needed code words that wouldn't be understood even if an outsider intercepted them.

Jetfire
Apr 29, 2008

Halloween Jack posted:

To give a more complete explanation, it means a heel is turning into a babyface. "Heel" is old slang for "rear end in a top hat." The meaning of babyface should be obvious. These terms originated when booking was centralized (particularly in NYC), but had to be relayed through telegrams and telephone operators, so they needed code words that wouldn't be understood even if an outsider intercepted them.

Well yes, I know all these things. I'm curious about the fact that I saw the phrase "face heel turn" word for word in a fashion magazine. It just seems like a really weird coincidence.

Ghostpilot
Jun 22, 2007

"As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."
I watched the New Generation Podcast's commentary on the 1996 Royal Rumble and saw that Triple H did the Flair Flip over the top turnbuckle and later on, the Flair Flop.

Who else done these signature moves aside from Ric Flair?

Edit: Followup question: what's the most-imitated signature spot in wrestling?

Ghostpilot fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Jan 25, 2015

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

Jado does the Flair Flop pretty regularly. Unless I'm thinking of Gedo. I think it's Jado.

Monkeycheese
Feb 24, 2002

ninja minúsculo

Jetfire posted:

Well yes, I know all these things. I'm curious about the fact that I saw the phrase "face heel turn" word for word in a fashion magazine. It just seems like a really weird coincidence.

you saw it in a fashion magazine because models literally turn on their heels to reverse the direction their face is pointing in. It is exactly a really weird coincidence and nothing more. If you read a soda trade journal would you freak out at the word "pop" appearing?

super macho dude
Aug 9, 2014


Im pretty sure on the Austin Unleashed podcast, Flair says who he emulated most of his moves from, including the Flop. I also realize this doesnt answer your question.

e- im also an idiot for misreading the question

super macho dude fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Jan 25, 2015

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Ghostpilot posted:

I watched the New Generation Podcast's commentary on the 1996 Royal Rumble and saw that Triple H did the Flair Flip over the top turnbuckle and later on, the Flair Flop.

Who else done these signature moves aside from Ric Flair?

Edit: Followup question: what's the most-imitated signature spot in wrestling?

HBK does the flip over the turnbuckle a lot.

Tokyo Sex Whale
Oct 9, 2012

"My butt smells like vanilla ice cream"

Monkeycheese posted:

you saw it in a fashion magazine because models literally turn on their heels to reverse the direction their face is pointing in.

Don't be naive, often they will also turn evil.

Snacksmaniac
Jan 12, 2008

Women can't turn evil. They're already all evil.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

Adrian Adonis used to do the Flair Flip, which was kind of impressive given how drat big he was.

Metroid Fitzgerald
Feb 13, 2012

B O O O O B S . . . !


I'm pretty sure Dolph Ziggler has been doing Flair Flips pretty recently.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

What's the origin of the "Big Daddy Yum Yum for most improved" joke. I've seen it around for a while and I have no idea who that even is.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

SyntheticPolygon posted:

What's the origin of the "Big Daddy Yum Yum for most improved" joke. I've seen it around for a while and I have no idea who that even is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yODGbbB0Nfw

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

SyntheticPolygon posted:

What's the origin of the "Big Daddy Yum Yum for most improved" joke. I've seen it around for a while and I have no idea who that even is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYBTPO37P4Q

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Monkeycheese posted:

you saw it in a fashion magazine because models literally turn on their heels to reverse the direction their face is pointing in. It is exactly a really weird coincidence and nothing more. If you read a soda trade journal would you freak out at the word "pop" appearing?

I think part of the question is where the "turn" comes in. I guess it's really just a coincidence owning to the awful English language having so many homonyms. Maybe for Jetfire the expected meaning for "turn" was "change of direction" instead of "X transforms into Y" (because he was primed from reading something about fashion) and that caused the confusion, because a heel changing direction to become a face is weird, though it still kind of works.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
To be honest I had never seen Big Daddy Yum Yum before... I was honest to god expecting something resembling Cheex

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013


Oh. I still have no idea who that is though. Was he a TNA guy?

Fiveace Attorney
Dec 12, 2006

I ain't his friend! If you were to ask me if I was his friend, I would say "NO" to you!
I watched Wrestle Kingdom 9 which was of course incredible, and I remember seeing a few guys kick out at 1 on people's finishers (I think they were their finishers). What are some other examples of this happening in US wrestling? All I can think of is Brock kicking out of the AA at 1 and I seem to remember Hogan doing it (Undertaker? Earthquake? Someone).

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

SyntheticPolygon posted:

Oh. I still have no idea who that is though. Was he a TNA guy?

FCW under the name Lennox McEnroe which might be the most FCW name there ever was.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Ghostpilot posted:

I watched the New Generation Podcast's commentary on the 1996 Royal Rumble and saw that Triple H did the Flair Flip over the top turnbuckle and later on, the Flair Flop.

Who else done these signature moves aside from Ric Flair?

Edit: Followup question: what's the most-imitated signature spot in wrestling?

Greg Valentine does his version of the Flop

Z-Magic
Feb 19, 2011

They talk about the people and the proletariat, I talk about the suckers and the mugs - it's the same thing. They have their five-year plans, so have I.

Fiveace Attorney posted:

I watched Wrestle Kingdom 9 which was of course incredible, and I remember seeing a few guys kick out at 1 on people's finishers (I think they were their finishers). What are some other examples of this happening in US wrestling? All I can think of is Brock kicking out of the AA at 1 and I seem to remember Hogan doing it (Undertaker? Earthquake? Someone).

Sami Zayn kicked out of Cesaro's lifting European Uppercut at 1.

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oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

SyntheticPolygon posted:

Oh. I still have no idea who that is though. Was he a TNA guy?

He was an NWA wrestler that New Japan brought over for a couple shows. He was really awful but in the Observer Dave wrote that he had shown a lot of improvement between the first and second match. It's funny because he showed zero improvement and nobody has any idea what Dave was talking about. Immediately after that Observer was released it was decided that we should all vote for him as Most Improved in the WON Awards later in the year.

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