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I follow Arrow moderately because of the Flash, does Laurel have any combat training at all? I mean, you'd have to be extra special dumb to try to fight crime without it. Or is it one of those "My dad is a cop, grrll power!" things?
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Jan 29, 2015 18:13
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hiddenriverninja posted:I follow Arrow moderately because of the Flash, does Laurel have any combat training at all? I mean, you'd have to be extra special dumb to try to fight crime without it. Or is it one of those "My dad is a cop, grrll power!" things? She as trained by Wildcat.
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Jan 29, 2015 18:14
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She also had some decent self defense training from her dad in season 1 that seems to have been dropped now.
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Jan 29, 2015 18:20
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^^^^^ Beaten like Laurel by some two bit mook bobkatt013 posted:She as trained by Wildcat. Which is funny because she actually fought better in Season 1 when she just had some self defense training and a law degree.
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Jan 29, 2015 18:20
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Laurel is just an idiot with "some self-defense" training and anger issues, but her career is just starting. I expect she'll be doing Roy level flips-n-stuff next season.
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Jan 29, 2015 18:21
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Black Canary in the comics is a hell of a lot better fighter than Oliver and one of the top martial artists period, so I'm curious who they're going to have train her (or if they'll just downgrade her permanently.)
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Jan 29, 2015 18:22
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Aphrodite posted:She also had some decent self defense training from her dad in season 1 that seems to have been dropped now. I still miss the Laurel that straight up pulled a drat shotgun out on a home invader.
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Jan 29, 2015 18:23
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It's actually kind of refreshing that she's pretty bad at this and not some unstoppable engine of destruction from the get go. There are clear levels of competence in the fighting area. Like, Roy can clown on goons all day but he fights somebody like Nyssa and gets his rear end kicked who in turn loses to guys of Oliver and Slade's level who would get rocked by Ra's al Ghul. It's like a food chain of rear end kicking.
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Jan 29, 2015 18:27
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Aphrodite posted:Black Canary in the comics is a hell of a lot better fighter than Oliver and one of the top martial artists period, so I'm curious who they're going to have train her (or if they'll just downgrade her permanently.) Clearly Ra's al Ghul. Fully repaying the blood debt from the dead sister with a life one.
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Jan 29, 2015 18:29
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adhuin posted:Clearly Ra's al Ghul. Fully repaying the blood debt from the dead sister with a life one. That would actually be cool. Canary and Ra's have a comics history too.
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Jan 29, 2015 18:30
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I still wish Laurel would have become Ravager 
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Aphrodite posted:I hope he has a breakdance fight with LostRook posted:FTFY.   Reo fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Jan 29, 2015 |
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Jan 29, 2015 18:43
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Aphrodite posted:Black Canary in the comics is a hell of a lot better fighter than Oliver and one of the top martial artists period, so I'm curious who they're going to have train her (or if they'll just downgrade her permanently.) Ollie seriously upped his game during the missing time of One Year Later, enough that he was able to fight Deathstroke to a standstill.
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Jan 29, 2015 18:55
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hiddenriverninja posted:I follow Arrow moderately because of the Flash, does Laurel have any combat training at all? I mean, you'd have to be extra special dumb to try to fight crime without it. Or is it one of those "My dad is a cop, grrll power!" things? Laurel is basically Iris but worse in every possible way.
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Rhyno posted:Ollie seriously upped his game during the missing time of One Year Later, enough that he was able to fight Deathstroke to a standstill. Yeah but that was the old universe.
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Rurea posted:Laurel is basically Iris but worse in every possible way. I would've disagreed before yesterday, but I think Laurel has become even more annoying since she tried to replace her dead sister. Last night's episode was a real shark jumping moment, wherein even Felicity - the one who's supposed to be smart - gave in and accepted that a female ADA with a month of boxing training and a metal stick can fight crime as a vigilante. That being said, any Iris-related subplot in Flash is easily the worst part of that show. Gumption.
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Jan 29, 2015 19:14
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I don't really understand why they didn't follow-through on the boxing training Laurel's been doing. I assume she's still been training there but we've had a bunch of episodes where they had the opportunity to establish that she's getting better really quickly and they just ignored it.
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Jan 29, 2015 19:18
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I am wondering if they're going to ditch the Arsenal name just to go with Red Arrow for Roy. While they had the scene where Oliver said they'll start calling him Arsenal they still haven't really committed to the name. I'm not sure if it has even come up since.
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Jan 29, 2015 19:23
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Mooseontheloose posted:dude Colton Hayes is killing it. Yeah. He was great this episode.
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Jan 29, 2015 19:28
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They've called him Arsenal a handful of times.
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Jan 29, 2015 19:41
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Basebf555 posted:I don't really understand why they didn't follow-through on the boxing training Laurel's been doing. I assume she's still been training there but we've had a bunch of episodes where they had the opportunity to establish that she's getting better really quickly and they just ignored it. Boxing is pretty useless outside of a boxing ring or like blindsiding someone.
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Jan 29, 2015 19:48
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Laurel has been perfectly fine through this whole arc and her move towards superheroics has been no more ridiculous than Roy "I have training from Oliver and YEARS ON THE STREETS" Harper's. Deal with it.
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Jan 29, 2015 19:49
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adhuin posted:Clearly Ra's al Ghul. Fully repaying the blood debt from the dead sister with a life one. Ted should refer her to his friend Sandy from Detroit who has her own dojo.
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muscles like this? posted:I am wondering if they're going to ditch the Arsenal name just to go with Red Arrow for Roy. While they had the scene where Oliver said they'll start calling him Arsenal they still haven't really committed to the name. I'm not sure if it has even come up since. It has. The red arrow thing is just the cops/media's name for him, like The Hood or The Red Streak.
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Jan 29, 2015 20:12
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I wouldn't be shocked if Arsenal just gradually gets dropped in favor of Red Arrow and this is how people finally start to refer to Oliver as Green Arrow in the process.
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Jan 29, 2015 20:17
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Diggliver is real yall.
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hcreight posted:I wouldn't be shocked if Arsenal just gradually gets dropped in favor of Red Arrow and this is how people finally start to refer to Oliver as Green Arrow in the process. Pretty sure that's where it's going. Ollie comes back, and the people have started taking to his replacements. Pretty sure them calling Laurel 'the woman in black' is how they're getting to "So... if you're the Green/Red Arrow, guess I'm the Black Canary?"
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Jan 29, 2015 20:24
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imperialparadox posted:Diggle doesn't give a gently caress. He should just start leaving behind 8x10 glossies of himself with "Bring it" scribbled on the front in marker. I wish Diggle would at least wear like a chest rig or plate carrier. But I guess that's part of the charm of his character; dude gives no fucks.
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Jan 29, 2015 20:29
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We are in the wrong universe for Red Arrow
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zoux posted:Diggliver is real yall. O-Diggity, O-doubt.
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Jan 29, 2015 20:31
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I would like a gif of Laurel jumping on top of the van and eating poo poo please.
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Jan 29, 2015 20:32
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zoux posted:I would like a gif of Laurel jumping on top of the van and eating poo poo please. Would have been hilarious if she busted her ankle and became incapacitated the whole fight.
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Jan 29, 2015 20:33
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That's why you wear heels. The heel acts as a crumple zone for the ankle.
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I was fully prepared to scoff at how good at crimefighting Laurel came after a week of boxing training but I guess the show knew better.
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hcreight posted:Laurel has been perfectly fine through this whole arc and her move towards superheroics has been no more ridiculous than Roy "I have training from Oliver and YEARS ON THE STREETS" Harper's. Deal with it. But then there was a lot of cringe-worthy stuff in this episode, from the blatant law-breaking by Laurel setting up the mook to be killed in prison if he didn't talk to the 'one of the aldermen has a pacemaker that has to be recharged(?!)' I mean I'm nothing like a cardiologist but seriously? Also Felicity's sudden nano-quantum-electrical microchip engineering skills. Why is she working as a personal assistant again? Maybe one of those howlers an episode I'd be able to overlook but one right after another, sheesh.
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Oracle posted:Except the actor has the physicality to back it up. Laurel's actress doesn't. She was swinging that staff like a baseball bat, it looked painfully stupid and awkward and unwieldy. And why would you even use a staff if you've been training in boxing? Nothing about what she did made any sense. I think that maybe TV in general may not be for you.
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Oracle posted:Except the actor has the physicality to back it up. Laurel's actress doesn't. She was swinging that staff like a baseball bat, it looked painfully stupid and awkward and unwieldy. And why would you even use a staff if you've been training in boxing? Nothing about what she did made any sense. ...The whole point is that she's awkward with the staff and is only using it out of sentimentality? Roy even asks if it's a good idea and points out that the Arrowcave has a ton of other weapons she could choose from. And Felicity's Palmer Tech's VP in charge of Applied Sciences, I believe. The office Ray keeps coming into is hers. She has her own PA and everything (that we only saw the one time).
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Jan 29, 2015 20:38
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Oracle posted:Except the actor has the physicality to back it up. Laurel's actress doesn't. She was swinging that staff like a baseball bat, it looked painfully stupid and awkward and unwieldy. And why would you even use a staff if you've been training in boxing? Nothing about what she did made any sense. The entire point of those scenes was that she's not adequately prepared to go out there. Laurel swinging the staff around like a bat was deliberate.
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