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Fat Lowtax posted:What they need is an evil doctor character Preferably played by Brad Dourif.
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Fat Lowtax posted:What they need is an evil doctor character 
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Feb 20, 2015 03:58
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When is the big guy going to get his day in court for the "dumb as gently caress" stuff?
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Feb 20, 2015 03:59
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Grant DaNasty posted:When is the big guy going to get his day in court for the "dumb as gently caress" stuff? The real secret is the ability to forgive.
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Feb 20, 2015 04:02
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Shima Honnou posted:The real secret is the ability to forgive. BIG GUY BIG HEART BIG IN THE METAPHORICAL SENSE NOT BECAUSE OF ROIDS
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Feb 20, 2015 04:17
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Y'all are getting shoot worked into a worked shoot, jabroni marks Punk confirmed for the post-Mania RAW
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Feb 20, 2015 04:32
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This case seems like a bad idea. The last thing you would want as a publicly traded company is a pissed off ex-employee with a high dollar lawyer and the ability to subpoena documents from the company.
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Feb 20, 2015 04:32
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MassRafTer posted:There's also the chance that Punk's story is grounded in the truth but as he got worked up and told it he got carried away to make it more entertaining, confused details with the other WWE doctor and doesn't have the best memory due to being concussed. When this is presented as the pure, unadulterated truth with no correction or retraction that can be a major problem. Punk is as big a self-mark and carny as anyone in the business, of course he exaggerated to make it sound better. Just depends how severely.
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Feb 20, 2015 04:33
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Sex Robot posted:This. Specials have been reduced to a punctuation mark. The more I think about it, pinfall matches always end one of two ways. It's why the NXT special ruled. Diva match ends with a submission wearing down the champ so much that you can roll her over for a pin. Main event ends in a KO. I always think matches should have more variety. Have the random countout or double countout. Have a guy hurt himself early in the match, his opponenet work on that body part, and have that body part actually play a role in the loss. All matches now are predictable. Just waiting around until the finisher exchange begins. Everything else doesn't matter.
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Feb 20, 2015 04:41
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Niwrad posted:I always think matches should have more variety. Have the random countout or double countout. Have a guy hurt himself early in the match, his opponenet work on that body part, and have that body part actually play a role in the loss. The closest we got to this recently was Rusev/Swagger, and it was loving awesome. Swagger wrecked Rusev's ankle with the Patriot Lock early on, so Rusev hobbled around selling it the rest of the match. He went for his camel clutch, but couldn't apply full pressure on the ankle, so he tried a modified version that Swagger broke out of. In the finish, Rusev gritted his teeth and used the camel clutch full stop, while selling the anguish on his face how much it's hurting. He almost passed out before Swagger did. And then Rusev sold the hurt ankle for like 2 months afterwards. Basically Rusev is the best.
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Feb 20, 2015 04:54
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Viper_3000 posted:This case seems like a bad idea. The last thing you would want as a publicly traded company is a pissed off ex-employee with a high dollar lawyer and the ability to subpoena documents from the company. Or it's a good idea because Punk lied or embellished the story.
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Feb 20, 2015 04:58
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price check on jackass
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Feb 20, 2015 05:01
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got any grey poupon
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Feb 20, 2015 05:07
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:got any grey poupon
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Feb 20, 2015 05:15
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I watched that segment about 100 times.
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Feb 20, 2015 05:23
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everything about it is wonderful, especially when austin sings "that's amore" into a salami and then beats booker with a pizza
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Feb 20, 2015 05:25
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I liked when they were fighting in a Church and they stopped when the nuns were watching.
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Feb 20, 2015 05:26
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Way too many people are assuming Punk is the lying one, it's unexpected.
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Feb 20, 2015 05:29
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disgruntled employee known for saying stupid poo poo lie and embellish a story? i never
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Feb 20, 2015 05:40
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kdrudy posted:Way too many people are assuming Punk is the lying one, it's unexpected. A wrestler may have lied or exaggerated a story for attention!?
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Feb 20, 2015 05:41
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kdrudy posted:Way too many people are assuming Punk is the lying one, it's unexpected. While filing the lawsuit is not evidence he is right, filing the lawsuit while employed by WWE, a company that wouldn't want his malpractice to be highlighted is a hint Punk may not have been 100% truthful.
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Feb 20, 2015 05:45
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Whether or not Punk was 100% factually correct of details that happened when he was sick and not sleeping, he definitely could've just spilled the beans on everything. Here's hoping WWE poked the wrong bear because they felt they could.
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Feb 20, 2015 05:49
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I'm sure that there was a long and drawn out process in determining whether or not he even had a solid case against Punk. At least I'd like to think that Jerry McDevitt's got a solid head on his shoulders regarding something like this, assuming he's the one leading the case. On the other hand Punk has never embellished any stories he's ever told in the past so he's pretty much guaranteed a clean win here. Finally he goes over in the true main event. Cory Lidle posted:Whether or not Punk was 100% factually correct of details that happened when he was sick and not sleeping, he definitely could've just spilled the beans on everything. Here's hoping WWE poked the wrong bear because they felt they could. lol
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Feb 20, 2015 05:51
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sticklefifer posted:It's WWE's plan to get Punk back. They'll litigate him until he's out of money and then he'll have no choice but to come back to work. Then of course they'll put him on Superstars in a tag team with Zack Ryder called the Zack-Pak. ZM Ryder
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Feb 20, 2015 05:54
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Xenoletum posted:I'm sure that there was a long and drawn out process in determining whether or not he even had a solid case against Punk. At least I'd like to think that Jerry McDevitt's got a solid head on his shoulders regarding something like this, assuming he's the one leading the case. I doubt mcdevitt handles personal cases for employees
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Feb 20, 2015 05:56
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HulkaMatt posted:I liked when they were fighting in a Church and they stopped when the nuns were watching. wait when was this
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Feb 20, 2015 05:59
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:I doubt mcdevitt handles personal cases for employees In that article yuriy posted, it says that Amann's lawyers are named Zisook and Saucier. That could not be a funnier combination of names.
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Feb 20, 2015 06:00
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This lawsuit will be more entertaining than most Raws. Let's go Punk.
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Feb 20, 2015 06:22
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If they don't settle, the build to the court case will be better than the build to Wrestlemania
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Feb 20, 2015 06:23
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Xenoletum posted:On the other hand Punk has never embellished any stories he's ever told in the past Well I'm fairly certain the WHAT DO MY KNUCKLES SAY!?! story is very slightly embellished. In all seriousness, in cases like this, is the onus on the guy being sued to prove that it did happen, or on the guy suing to prove it did NOT happen?
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Feb 20, 2015 06:27
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Jerusalem posted:Well I'm fairly certain the WHAT DO MY KNUCKLES SAY!?! story is very slightly embellished. It's very hard to prove libel in an American courtroom. You not only have to prove they are lying (or that it should have been obvious they are lying) but also that the statements did harm.
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Feb 20, 2015 06:31
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Alan_Shore posted:This lawsuit will be more entertaining than most Raws. CM Sucks KungFu Grip posted:wait when was this
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Feb 20, 2015 06:31
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they're going to accidentally sue sheamus
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Feb 20, 2015 06:32
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If things get too bad Vince may have to pull some strings and get IRS to audit him.
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Feb 20, 2015 06:37
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Lil Wayne sued cash money and now WWE sues CM Punk. Best year ever so far. All I need is Roman Reigns beating Brock in a 1v1 match standing tall in a heap of trash in the ring.
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Feb 20, 2015 06:38
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Jerusalem posted:Well I'm fairly certain the WHAT DO MY KNUCKLES SAY!?! story is very slightly embellished. From findlaw: quote:Defamation law changes as you cross state borders, but there are normally some accepted standards that make laws similar no matter where you are. If you think that you have been the victim of some defamatory statement, whether slander or libel, then you will need to file a lawsuit in order to recover. Generally speaking, in order to win your lawsuit, you must show that: We know Punk made the statements and they were published, and they aren't privileged. The question moves to 'did this statement cause you injury' (could pass this test, having a million+ people listen to a famous wrestler call you a negligent doctor can damage your personal and professional life) and 'are the statements false' (could pass this test but may be difficult if there aren't detailed medical records kept by the doc and WWE.) If Punk was lying about the Rumble conversation and the Z-Pak treatment plan he will probably be found liable. The one thing that makes me think Amann has merit is that I can't imagine Vince/the WWE allowing Amann to file the suit while still under their employ if they weren't confident Punk was lying and that nothing destructive would come from discovery. CubsWoo fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Feb 20, 2015 06:39
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CubsWoo posted:The one thing that makes me think Amann has merit is that I can't imagine Vince/the WWE allowing Amann to file the suit while still under their employ if they weren't confident Punk was lying and that nothing destructive would come from discovery. This is how I feel too. I have a really incredibly hard time believing they'd let Amann sue as a WWE employee if they didn't think they had a solid case.
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Feb 20, 2015 06:51
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CubsWoo posted:We know Punk made the statements and they were published, and they aren't privileged. The question moves to 'did this statement cause you injury' (could pass this test, having a million+ people listen to a famous wrestler call you a negligent doctor can damage your personal and professional life) and 'are the statements false' (could pass this test but may be difficult if there aren't detailed medical records kept by the doc and WWE.) In this particular case, you probably don't need to prove damages, as the statements are almost certainly going to be considered defamation per se, since they directly call into question Dr. Amann's competence as a doctor, and statements that defame one's ability to perform his profession are assumed to do injury to a person, and damages don't need to be shown in that case.
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Feb 20, 2015 06:53
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I'm just thinking out loud here and taking things to a dumb conclusion, but how could this play out if Punk just turned around and said "that was all kayfabe" as there have been numerous instances of real life gently caress ups being incorporated into kayfabe and things people thought were kayfabe turned out to be real. How could a court react to an industry that goes "this time last year I stood in front of an audience and purported to talk about corruption in the locker room but that was all a work, so is this"
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Sex Robot posted:I'm just thinking out loud here and taking things to a dumb conclusion, but how could this play out if Punk just turned around and said "that was all kayfabe" as there have been numerous instances of real life gently caress ups being incorporated into kayfabe and things people thought were kayfabe turned out to be real. He would then have to pay millions of dollars to the doctor for making up a story about him and broadcasting it on the internet.
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