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Tautologicus posted:Isnt that hinduism...buddhism was casteless at its inception. Many untouchables convert to buddhism to escape their caste. Saw your next post about the Tibetans though and thats a fair thing to say. But thats centuries after buddhism was created, things always turn to poo poo with time, even the most noble ideas. Conversely, many ideas seem more noble through a modern lens Hinduism 4000 years ago probably bears little resemblance to Hinduism today. I mean it is easy to say the religion was created to give the powerful more power, but that doesn't mean the religion hasn't had thousands of years to evolve with devout followers of all social classes reinterpreting it and developing its ideas. However non-neckbeardy that dude thought he was being he was still writing off thousands of years of history. Calico Heart fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Feb 23, 2015 |
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Stottie Kyek posted:Muslims get a lot of poo poo from everybody because of Islamic terrorists and the like, but if you're a Buddhist no one ever mentions the genocide of the Rohingya in Burma or the Sri Lankan fascist movements happening right now. They just go "ooh how spiritual", it owns if they start calling for beheadings on the street and blowing up buses and trains and marathons and nightclubs and shopping centres worldwide maybe they'll also cop some flak.
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taoism is chill as polar bear poo poo, best religion because it's barely a religion. if religion is the opiate of the masses, taoism is a joint of some primo doobage that makes you chill out and ponder cool poo poo instead of nodding out and baking to death inside your car (the car of life)
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People will find a justification to gently caress others up in even the most explicitly peaceful creed. I like Buddhism because it makes a lot of sense and has good advice for living in the real world.
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Gatekeeper posted:taoism is chill as polar bear poo poo, best religion because it's barely a religion. if religion is the opiate of the masses, taoism is a joint of some primo doobage that makes you chill out and ponder cool poo poo instead of nodding out and baking to death inside your car (the car of life)
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i was going to enjoy this thread then i realized its a material attachment, voted 1
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Lao Tzu was traveling with his disciples and they came to a forest where hundreds of woodcutters were cutting the trees. The whole forest had been cut except for one big tree with thousands of branches. It was so big that 10,000 persons could sit in its shade. Lao Tzu asked his disciples to go and inquire why this tree had not been cut. They went and asked the woodcutter and they said, "This tree is absolutely useless. You cannot make anything out of it because every branch has so many knots in it - nothing is straight. You cannot use it as fuel because the smoke is dangerous to the eyes. This tree is absolutely useless, that's why we haven't cut it." The disciples came back and told Lao Tzu. He laughed said, "Be like this tree. If you are useful you will be cut and you will become furniture in somebody's house. If you are beautiful you will be sold in the market, you will become a commodity. Be like this tree, absolutely useless, and then you will grow big and vast and thousands of people will find shade under you."
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Oberleutnant posted:Lao Tzu was traveling with his disciples and they came to a forest where hundreds of woodcutters were cutting the trees. The whole forest had been cut except for one big tree with thousands of branches. It was so big that 10,000 persons could sit in its shade. I really like this
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goon way of life is really old
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# ? Feb 23, 2015 16:00 |
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I have found religion gibbis, now where's my orange toga?
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Keep in mind that Buddhism has different flavors, just like there is not one version of Christianity. For example the differences between Tibetan Buddhism and Theravada Buddhism are vast.
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My friend is into something called Nichiren Buddhism but when I google it I find a bunch of Yahoo Answers questions about whether or not it's a cult. I guess that's not a good sign.
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wa27 posted:My friend is into something called Nichiren Buddhism but when I google it I find a bunch of Yahoo Answers questions about whether or not it's a cult. I guess that's not a good sign. Yeah, it's a little cult-y. The whole SGI thing with the Hollywood types in it, to... Cult-y.
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Buddhism is the perfect religion for the modern West because it's basically just tells people to be themselves and achieve their own bullshit personal enlightenment. Oberleutnant posted:Lao Tzu was traveling with his disciples and they came to a forest where hundreds of woodcutters were cutting the trees. The whole forest had been cut except for one big tree with thousands of branches. It was so big that 10,000 persons could sit in its shade.
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i think you mean taoism
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Every eastern religion is about learning your role in the social hierarchy.
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Miltank posted:Buddhism is the perfect religion for the modern West because it's basically just tells people to be themselves and achieve their own bullshit personal enlightenment. oh sweet, i'm already done
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Miltank posted:Every eastern religion is about learning your role in the social hierarchy.
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Oberleutnant posted:Lao Tzu was traveling with his disciples and they came to a forest where hundreds of woodcutters were cutting the trees. The whole forest had been cut except for one big tree with thousands of branches. It was so big that 10,000 persons could sit in its shade. Truly a creed for goons everywhere
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My favorite thing about buddhism/taoism is that having any earthly desires or ambitions is useless and self-defeating so you might as well just smoke weed under a tree all day. ohm I mean aside from that they're both super cool
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buddhism is a good gateway spirituality, there is much more to learn from other traditions as wellMiltank posted:Every eastern religion is about learning your role in the social hierarchy. hmm, no. ill give you confucianism, but hinduism is about understanding that the world is simultaneous one unified being and an infinitely fractured being that operates as a mandala, social hierarchy being an aspect of that mandala-fracturing. saying hinduism is primarily about learning your role in the social hierarchy is disingenuous. im assuming you were referring to hinduism and confucianism, maybe you were referring to something else though.
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wa27 posted:My friend is into something called Nichiren Buddhism but when I google it I find a bunch of Yahoo Answers questions about whether or not it's a cult. I guess that's not a good sign. yeah i attended a service once and it was really weird and creepy and totally reminded me of the time i had to do catering at the new york celebrity center, all these lame-o scientologists in khakis leering at me and eating chicken marsala only now it was buddhist lame-o's in khakis leering at me while playing with beads
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Miltank posted:Every eastern religion is about learning your role in the social hierarchy. they literally toned down jesus as a revolutionary figure because when the Jewshad an uprising and took back Jerusalem the Romans had a disproportionate response and loving desolated them in one of the most violent suppression the ancient world had ever seen, so they figured that it might be best to underplay his "take back the kingdom of God" stuff lest it happens again Every religion has a whole lotta learning your role and allowing yourself to be subjugated is what i'm saying, but given the context of the lovely world ancient peasants had to live in, it seems like kinda sound advice Calico Heart fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Feb 23, 2015 |
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the buddha watches over me always, as he does you
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Calico Heart posted:they literally toned down jesus as a revolutionary figure because when the Jewshad an uprising and took back Jerusalem the Romans had a disproportionate response and loving desolated them in one of the most violent suppression the ancient world had ever seen, so they figured that it might be best to underplay his "take back the kingdom of God" stuff lest it happens again Jesus was Jew Che Guevara.
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Buddhism is pretty cool. I like the artwork, lots of nutty gods and demons to go with the philosophy. Way less genocide than average. I mean a few here and there but still way less mass murder than Christianity/Islam/atheism, historically speaking.Miltank posted:Every eastern religion is about learning your role in the social hierarchy. No, only one: Confucianism. But we all know the real hierarchy, right? wink wink
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Long live the dictatorship of the meek.
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Miltank posted:Long live the dictatorship of the meek. What does Calvinist Geneva have to do with Buddhism?
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buddhism is just nihilism for bitch baby betas
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# ? Feb 23, 2015 18:46 |
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Jesus: Rich people, you better fix your poo poo. Buddha: Take the lukewarm path to false enlightenment.
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Miltank posted:Jesus: Rich people, you better fix your poo poo. assuming your favored religion aways has the best answers is a good way to miss out on a lot of really good stuff. don't be a spiritual snob.
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Miltank posted:Jesus: Rich people, you better fix your poo poo. Its ok, your attitude is an understandable consequence of ignorance. The Maitreya Buddha is in the heavens right now, preaching to the false gods like Jesus and Yahweh, who will eventually reach enlightenment and abandon their immortality and tyranny.
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my religion says suck my dickhole
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Miltank posted:Jesus: Rich people, you better fix your poo poo. Agag posted:Its ok, your attitude is an understandable consequence of ignorance. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
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Oberleutnant posted:Be like this tree, absolutely useless, and then you will grow big and vast and thousands of people will find shade under you." So a poop-socking WOW player who gets really obese is doing it right basically
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I'm pretty sure Lao Tzu is talking about something only a few have done, not the many, so lets try to allow for some nuance in that little story i think
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Tautologicus posted:I'm pretty sure Lao Tzu is talking about something only a few have done, not the many, so lets try to allow for some nuance in that little story i think yeah like just ANYONE can have 5 level 90 players. don't hate because i'm more buddhist than you without trying. (maybe you'd be more buddhist by now if you weren't STRIVING so hard)
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I'm a rich young hipster who went on a spiritual journey to India after realizing that my servants have worse lives than me. In the end, I come to terms with class struggle by deciding that nothing actually matters anyway.
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Miltank posted:Jesus: Rich people, you better fix your poo poo. lol more like Romans get out of Jerusalem it's ok if they kill you you'll get money in heaven
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spooky girlfriend posted:yeah like just ANYONE can have 5 level 90 players. don't hate because i'm more buddhist than you without trying. (maybe you'd be more buddhist by now if you weren't STRIVING so hard) same
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