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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Right, but with a month of service time already logged, there was never a real choice to be made. If Pederson was coming into this year with a clean slate like Bryant is, he'd probably be in the same boat right now. Of course there was a choice to be made. It was a choice that the Dodgers made last year when they promoted Pederson, and a choice that the Cubs made last year when they did not promote Bryant. Both teams were fully aware how that month of service time would affect their players moving forward. The rules didn't suddenly change this offseason, and the Dodgers aren't being forced to start Pederson because of their own foolishness or misunderstanding of the rules. What's the problem here?
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Right, but with a month of service time already logged, there was never a real choice to be made. If Pederson was coming into this year with a clean slate like Bryant is, he'd probably be in the same boat right now. They wouldn't have brought him up in September in the first place if they hadn't already decided that they weren't going to manipulate his service time.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Nope. In a tightly contested NL Central I'd want my best team out there from day 1, and worry about paying Bryant later since I'm in an organization whose worth is $1.8 billion Yeah if you would sacrifice a full year of team control so you can have a player for an extra two weeks on a team that, best case, will finish with about 82 wins, you're a loving moron.
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Right, but with a month of service time already logged, there was never a real choice to be made. If Pederson was coming into this year with a clean slate like Bryant is, he'd probably be in the same boat right now. They could have kept him down to preserve service time, but chose not to because presumably they wanted him to get exposure in order to improve his development. The team chose to prioritize Joc's immediate contribution at the major league level over extracting an extra year of control over his prime. They did this because they're actually trying to win now, and because the financial gain from the potential delay is not that significant since they have deep pockets. edit: beaten by two quality posters
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I absolutely despise the service time gently caress gently caress games the Mets play so anything or anybody that is working to end those stupid rules have my vote.
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theacox posted:What everyone is forgetting in this whole argument is gently caress The Cardinals. MATHENY: Son, we live in a world that has Cubs, and those Cubs have to be guarded by men with bats. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Hank the Brewers Dog? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Kerry Wood, and you curse the goat. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That the Cub's misfortune, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me winning that division, you need me winning that division. We use words like honor, code, the Cardinal Way. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very Cubs-Free World Series that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a bat, and knock the Cubs out of the wild-card race. Either way, I don't give a drat what you think you are entitled to.
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In lighter news, the Marlins had a hot dog sandwich eating contest for season tickets. V: Marlins
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vegeta dentata posted:In lighter news, the Marlins had a hot dog sandwich eating contest for season tickets. This will cause a roughly 1,305 page derail, but I don't consider hot dogs "sandwiches".
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Retail Slave posted:This will cause a roughly 1,305 page derail, but I don't consider hot dogs "sandwiches".
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there's a new place by me that makes a mean hot dog sandwich. i always get mine with kraut, swiss and russian dressing on rye. usually i ask to sub in corned beef for the hot dog.
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theacox posted:What everyone is forgetting in this whole argument is gently caress The Cardinals. I like the Cardinals and think they are a cool team in an okay city and when they win it makes my mom happy and she is a nice lady who helped raise me and loved me even when I was being a shithead which was a lot so go Cardinals except when they're playing the A's which pretty much never happens so this isn't really a conflict and hey maybe learn how to use a dang bullpen Mike Matheny. Tom Gorman posted:there's a new place by me that makes a mean hot dog sandwich. i always get mine with kraut, swiss and russian dressing on rye. usually i ask to sub in corned beef for the hot dog. this is a very convoluted method for ordering a usually readily available sandwich!
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MourningView posted:nevermind, go back to talking about labor law pay your players George money you cheap loving pricks
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theacox posted:What everyone is forgetting in this whole argument is gently caress The Cardinals. And the best fans in baseball also
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Tom Gorman posted:there's a new place by me that makes a mean hot dog sandwich. i always get mine with kraut, swiss and russian dressing on rye. usually i ask to sub in corned beef for the hot dog. you guys ever think about how maybe, like, the hot dog is just being held back by the man, man? like, maybe it just wants be treated like all the other more seasoned sandwiches out there, you know? hell, maybe the hot dog even deserves to be treated like the other sandwiches. i dunno, think about it, you know?
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Retail Slave posted:Yeah if you would sacrifice a full year of team control so you can have a player for an extra two weeks on a team that, best case, will finish with about 82 wins, you're a loving moron. I sure do wish we had Trout the first couple weeks in 2012 instead of Vernon Wells. Angels finished 5 games back from the wild card. I don't think service time mattered, but it wouldn't have mattered because he played his rear end into a contract in his pre-arb years. If your young players are looking like a beast, bring them up. If they are beasts, lock them up.
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e: eh whatever, it petered off quickly
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Quest For Glory II posted:Does the gif cover mlb futures as well
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tatankatonk posted:MATHENY: Son, we live in a world that has Cubs, and those Cubs have to be guarded by men with bats. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Hank the Brewers Dog? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Kerry Wood, and you curse the goat. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That the Cub's misfortune, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me winning that division, you need me winning that division. We use words like honor, code, the Cardinal Way. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very Cubs-Free World Series that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a bat, and knock the Cubs out of the wild-card race. Either way, I don't give a drat what you think you are entitled to. "Did you trade for Lou Brock" "I did the job I" "DID YOU TRADE FOR LOU BROCK" "YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID" Monicro fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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Quest For Glory II posted:Does the gif cover mlb futures as well It did last season but I can't find a player mugshot for Aiken that's gif-quality.
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Monicro posted:"Did you trade for Lou Brock" It was just bad luck. Ernie Broglio was the future. 
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David Ortiz ownsquote:They’re on me for my flair now. “Papi, how come you walk around the bases so slow when you hit a home run? How come you flip your bat like that? Don’t you think that’s disrespectful to celebrate?”
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Man sports hating on celebrating is the absolute dumbest thing. How dare this man who went from nothing to being a huge star enjoy the fact that he did a thing that us judging him could never do in front of thousands of fans who love his poo poo.
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Crion posted:Of course there was a choice to be made. It was a choice that the Dodgers made last year when they promoted Pederson, and a choice that the Cubs made last year when they did not promote Bryant. Both teams were fully aware how that month of service time would affect their players moving forward. The rules didn't suddenly change this offseason, and the Dodgers aren't being forced to start Pederson because of their own foolishness or misunderstanding of the rules. What's the problem here? My issue is that people are drawing comparisons between the two like their situations somehow parallel one another and they really don't. We don't know what a Friedman/Zaidi FO would've done with Pederson last year, and we don't know what the Cubs would have done last year had they been in a position to play meaningful games in September. Acting like the Dodgers are doing right by Pederson right now by not leaving him in AAA until the middle of May is pretty silly, though. More broadly, I just don't really like framing the argument that way since it seems like it muddles the problem, which is not that the Cubs are (uniquely and specifically at least) a bunch of jerks acting in bad faith and the solution is to simply emulate the Dodgers, but that the rules reward teams who pull this poo poo when they're in position for it. Disclaimer: I don't give a particular gently caress about either of these teams, or any team in the NL for that matter. I'm just  e: actual news and not just my dumb nitpicking: Brady Aiken had TJS. I wonder what this means for his draft position. TheIncredulousHulk fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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"I grew up in the gutter and now I’m out here in front of the world living my dream and you all want me to refrain from smashing the dugout phone with a bat? I can’t do it."
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Man sports hating on celebrating is the absolute dumbest thing.
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the worst was the ny media flipping out on lastings milledge for high-fiving a bunch of fans after a walk off. they really, really, really took offense to that for some reason.
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theacox posted:What everyone is forgetting in this whole argument is gently caress The Cardinals. Basically this. I just know it's going to come down to the last day of the season again to see who wins the NLC.
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Abel Wingnut posted:the worst was the ny media flipping out on lastings milledge for high-fiving a bunch of fans after a walk off. they really, really, really took offense to that for some reason. That owned and its a shame Lastings wound up busting.
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Retail Slave posted:It was just bad luck. Ernie Broglio was the future. Kinda like Kris Bryant. Makes you think.
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I will always call him PED User David Ortiz, but The Players Tribune has been pretty good considering how it sounded like the dumbest thing in the world when it was announced.
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100+ unread posts, something cool must have happe--... nope.
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davecrazy posted:That owned and its a shame Lastings wound up busting. The gently caress he did. He's an all-star with the Yakult Swallows! e: Craptacular, are you sure you're not Mike Petriello, because you sure like aping his dumb points.
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INSPECTAH DECK posted:Actually, he's an overrated steroid abusing rear end in a top hat. emptyquote
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SporkOfTruth posted:The gently caress he did. He's an all-star with the Yakult Swallows! I've had a general distaste for the vast majority of Craptacular posts the last few years, while also considering Petriello one of the better baseball bloggers out there. They aren't similar at all.
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INSPECTAH DECK posted:Actually, he's an overrated steroid abusing rear end in a top hat. Haha nope 
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