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SlipUp posted:Wouldn't really be a problem if those two franchises knew how to draft. *presses rewind on self* *presses play* That still doesn't explain why comp picks should exist
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football fuckerman posted:*presses rewind on self* *presses play* That still doesn't explain why comp picks should exist It's totes unfair for Seattle to only have one chance a year to get an all pro defensive back in the fifth round.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:00
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Apr 2, 2015 18:06
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Lol the Ravens, Patriots, GB, and Seattle all getting extra comp picks.... Same playoffs as the last 5 years. Makes sense bro. 
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They should just amend it to: These are the scenario's in which you get comp picks* blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah * - Unless you made the play-offs, gently caress dynasties.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:13
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All the good teams get extra draft picks cause they drafted good. Ok makes sense. Have a good day.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:57
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Look folks, if RGIII and I agree on something, well, you know we're onto something here
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I also agree, and say that despite rooting for a team that's gotten 3rd round picks the last two drafts for rental players
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Apr 2, 2015 19:25
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A Man and his dog posted:All the good teams get extra draft picks cause they drafted good. Why should lovely teams be rewarded for making GBS threads all over themselves in the draft and then signing a bunch of free agents
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Apr 2, 2015 19:49
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SA2K posted:Why should lovely teams be rewarded for making GBS threads all over themselves in the draft and then signing a bunch of free agents i agree, give neither good or bad teams comp picks. get rid of comp picks.
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Apr 2, 2015 19:50
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SA2K posted:Why should lovely teams be rewarded for making GBS threads all over themselves in the draft and then signing a bunch of free agents They shouldn't, they should just have an 8th round of the draft.
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Apr 2, 2015 19:50
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Alouicious posted:i agree, give neither good or bad teams comp picks. get rid of comp picks. Yes
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Apr 2, 2015 19:52
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SA2K posted:Why should lovely teams be rewarded for making GBS threads all over themselves in the draft and then signing a bunch of free agents Because there are new regimes all the time, and at this rate the draft is such a crapshoot that having multiple picks in comp selections, especially 3 and 4s, really make the playing field uneven. Comp picks never made sense to me, and poo poo like the Charles clay contract show why. He's not eligible for a comp pick bc we transition tagged him... Meaning we could have had him On our roster if we paid out the nose. Kinda like New England having the option on revis... But here we are. No fundamental difference, but the system is so flawed it helps only one of the two teams
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Apr 2, 2015 19:52
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NFL only pretends it wants parity what it wants is Americas Team winning every year! How bout dem Cowboys! Um wait this didn't make any sense.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Because there are new regimes all the time, and at this rate the draft is such a crapshoot that having multiple picks in comp selections, especially 3 and 4s, really make the playing field uneven. To be fair, the "not picking up the roster bonus" gimmick getting you a comp pick doesn't make a lot of sense, but on the other hand that so many teams seem to not use it is utterly baffling. They should go away, but it's baffling how some teams exploit it so well and others just don't bother. Everyone knew the Dolphins should have pulled the tag from Clay so they'd get a comp pick, but they didn't. That's not on the comp pick system, thats on the dolphins being idiots. That the Patriots will get an extra 3rd because of the Revis rental though is just so loving absurd that although I love it I can't defend it.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Because there are new regimes all the time, and at this rate the draft is such a crapshoot that having multiple picks in comp selections, especially 3 and 4s, really make the playing field uneven. Well yeah, teams that draft well getting extra picks is just as stupid as giving poorly run teams extra picks to waste. Comp picks are stupid no matter who gets them
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Apr 2, 2015 19:59
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Is it even a guarantee Revis is going to net a comp pick? I know OTC thinks they will but there's not a ton of history around declined team options and there's no documentation on exactly how comps are awarded, correct?
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WHOOPS posted:Is it even a guarantee Revis is going to net a comp pick? I know OTC thinks they will but there's not a ton of history around declined team options and there's no documentation on exactly how comps are awarded, correct? It's not guaranteed, but I believe they found a specific case of a declined team option netting a comp pick. I think it's public who a comp pick is associated with.
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lol. Nobody is saying bad teams should get extra draft picks.... But it's pretty drat stupid to give good teams extra draft picks because they drafted well with the comp picks they GOT......
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Apr 2, 2015 20:12
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next you jerks are going to make fleecing idiot teams out of their draft picks with hilariously one-sided trades illegal 
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Apr 2, 2015 20:13
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Spoeank posted:I got so excited when I saw he made it to Alexandria. Great finale. A day late but it's my birthday and I can do what i want- 
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Apr 2, 2015 20:15
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*looks at the Bengals comp picks this year* nah I think comps are cool
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Can the Bengals please just win a playoff game before my grandmother dies.... She lives in CIN. Also that steakhouse on the river owns.
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Apr 2, 2015 20:23
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Why can't your grandma die and help us out Angels in the Outfield style?
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Apr 2, 2015 20:24
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Because Andy Dolton loving sucks. Also your WR corp has bad feet and sucks? 
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Apr 2, 2015 20:28
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I think the original intention of comp picks was to level the playing field of smaller market teams, but at this point no one in the NFL can honestly say they can't compete financially. Instead the systen rewards teams like Green Bay who invest heavily in scouting and don't overpay as a philosophy, or teams like the patriots who have figured out how to game the system. Having competent front offices should be its own reward.
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evilweasel posted:To be fair, the "not picking up the roster bonus" gimmick getting you a comp pick doesn't make a lot of sense, but on the other hand that so many teams seem to not use it is utterly baffling. They should go away, but it's baffling how some teams exploit it so well and others just don't bother. Everyone knew the Dolphins should have pulled the tag from Clay so they'd get a comp pick, but they didn't. That's not on the comp pick system, thats on the dolphins being idiots. Not all teams have the negotiating room that the patriots do. What free agent is going to agree to an additional year with a team option with the browns or buccaneers? The browns gave Alex Mack THREE years of player options to get him to sign
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football fuckerman posted:Not all teams have the negotiating room that the patriots do. What free agent is going to agree to an additional year with a team option with the browns or buccaneers? The browns gave Alex Mack THREE years of player options to get him to sign Just make the team option a billion dollars or something like the Revis one where everyone knows it's not going to happen. It's not a real year, the team tacks it on so they get a free pick and the player gets an extra 10k or something, plus bragging rights about how valuable his contract is.
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evilweasel posted:To be fair, the "not picking up the roster bonus" gimmick getting you a comp pick doesn't make a lot of sense, but on the other hand that so many teams seem to not use it is utterly baffling. They should go away, but it's baffling how some teams exploit it so well and others just don't bother. Everyone knew the Dolphins should have pulled the tag from Clay so they'd get a comp pick, but they didn't. That's not on the comp pick system, thats on the dolphins being idiots. Apparently yanking the tag would have gotten them some grief from the league or the union or some poo poo. You can't yank the tag after you assign it just bc you think someone else is taking your dude. Trust me I was calling for it the whole time.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Apparently yanking the tag would have gotten them some grief from the league or the union or some poo poo. You can't yank the tag after you assign it just bc you think someone else is taking your dude. That makes more sense, thanks.
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Like seriously, fans of good teams stop trying to justify the comp pick system. We got it. Works for you. Kali has it right. Just make it an 8th rd pick or some poo poo....
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It's especially funny because the difference between picking 7th and picking 4th has nowhere near the benefit of getting an extra 3rd and a 5th.
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Barnwell and Mays did a redraft of the 2014 draft since that's the kind of thing you do when you have a NFL podcast in April, with the basic gist of teams still need what they needed, but they get to see a year into the future. All the same trades happen except the Seahawks at #32 since that was pretty much just for Teddy B.pre:Bill Barnwell Robert Mays 1 Texans Khalil Mack Teddy Bridgewater 2 Rams Aaron Donald Odell Beckham 3 Jaguars Odell Beckham Khalil Mack 4 Bills Greg Robinson Sammy Watkins 5 Raiders Teddy Bridgewater Mike Evans 6 Falcons Zach Martin Aaron Donald 7 Buccaneers Sammy Watkins Jadeveon Clowney 8 Browns Mike Evans Kelvin Benjamin 9 Vikings CJ Mosley Zach Martin 10 Lions Jake Matthews Taylor Lewan 11 Titans Blake Bortles Derek Carr 12 Giants Anthony Barr CJ Mosley 13 Rams Derek Carr Jake Matthews 14 Bears Jason Verrett Calvin Pryor 15 Steelers Timmy Jernigan Anthony Barr 16 Cowboys Ha Ha Clinton-Dix Joel Bitonio 17 Ravens Bashaud Breeland Jason Verrett 18 Jets Kelvin Benjamin Blake Bortles 19 Dolphins Taylor Lewan Greg Robinson 20 Saints Kyle Fuller Kyle Fuller 21 Packers Chris Borland Chris Borland 22 Browns Joel Bitonio Tim Jernigan 23 Chiefs Deone Bucannon Ryan Shazier 24 Bengals Ryan Shazier Aaron Lynch 25 Chargers Justin Gilbert Jack Mewhort 26 Eagles Calvin Pryor Ha Ha Clinton-Dix 27 Cardinals Brandin Cooks Brandon Linder 28 Panthers Ja'Wuan James Ja'Wuan James 29 Patriots Jadeveon Clowney Justin Gilbert 30 49ers Dominique Easley Brandin Cooks 31 Broncos Bradley Roby Jarvis Landry 32 Seahawks Dee Ford Martavis Bryant
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Jeremy Maclin 2014 receiving DYAR: 224 all 7 2014 Chiefs WRs combined DYAR (sum not mean): 1
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Pron on VHS posted:Jeremy Maclin 2014 receiving DYAR: 224 Man I wonder what the reason for this could be? It's totally weird!
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Apr 2, 2015 21:50
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Parmesan Basil posted:Man I wonder what the reason for this could be? It's totally weird! I know, I'd kill to have Foles or Sanchez throwing to Bowe, AJ Jenkins, Wilson and Hemingway.
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I can't figure out just how much of my hope for Wilson is because I haven't seen a receiver other than Bowe (very rarely) make a great play in so long. Wilson made like 2 of them, really good ones!
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Pron on VHS posted:I know, I'd kill to have Foles or Sanchez throwing to Bowe, AJ Jenkins, Wilson and Hemingway. You forgot Avery and Avant.
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Parmesan Basil posted:You forgot Avery and Avant. so did the rest of the league, so big whoop.
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