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Atticus Finch posted:Kroft? Should'a gone Ohio State dude. When your running backs are leading the league in rushing and Andy Dalton doesn't get sacked for weeks at a time you'll be pretty happy. Linemen picks are never flashy but I'm pretty jel of that draft
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Chichevache posted:Someone in another thread mentioned Walters is a Jag now! How rude! Look somebody needed to fill out those three reciever sets last year and gently caress if it was gonna be Baldwin, Harvin, Norwood or Richardson!
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Intruder posted:I'm pretty uninspired by the Texans draft to this point. My Texans homer pal is loving that you guys got Strong so late. Looks like a steal to me. Apparently, he fell cause he had wrist surgery and didn't disclose it with some teams. 
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I basically agree entirely with Mike Tanier's draft grades re: the Bears.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Washington Redskins Preston Smith sounds like he's not that different from Trent Murphy, i.e. not necessarily an edge rusher specialist, but I sort of trust in Scot here that he'll provide value. Tanier seemed to like the pick. Matt Jones isn't very Helu-like from what I read, and I'm not sure about drafting a running back there, but I certainly like trading down to get those additional picks. Jones sounds like he could definitely be productive and at least take some load off Morris while providing a different style RB, if not a Helu-like scatback
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A Man and his dog posted:My Texans homer pal is loving that you guys got Strong so late. Looks like a steal to me. Woo a receiver with bad hands that can't get separation, I'm so stoked But at least he's a high character guy!
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BlindSite posted:When your running backs are leading the league in rushing and Andy Dalton doesn't get sacked for weeks at a time you'll be pretty happy.
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I'm actually pretty high on the Texans' draft so far. Got the best corner and 2nd-best linebacker in the draft for our defense and a receiver who's awesome at jump ball catches to work with Nuk. Other than SOLB we didn't have an extreme need so we just traded our middle picks and got good prospects.Intruder posted:Woo a receiver with bad hands that can't get separation, I'm so stoked Does vertical separation count?
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Man look at this guy completely gently caress up against a college corner and then outjump him for the ball, surely this will translate to the NFL I'm down on this draft 
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May 2, 2015 07:12
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Atticus Finch posted:The picks themselves are fine. Cedric will be good next year when he's fully healed. Fisher will be a good swing this year. The problem is they're very clearly letting both their starting tackles walk after this year - because the Bengals are cheap - when one OT would've been fine and they probably would've picked someone else at one if they knew Fisher would fall that far. They could've addressed an actual need and contributor with either spot. They're a BPA team through and through but they really showed how BPA can be stupid without some flexibility. Just think of the comp picks for Dre and Whit! I hear Jeremy Hill may be a free agent at some point so those extra picks will come in handy to draft his replacement next year! 
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Intruder posted:Man look at this guy completely gently caress up against a college corner and then outjump him for the ball, surely this will translate to the NFL We got a dude with elite tools in the third round, don't be so down. 
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May 2, 2015 07:17
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This team refuses to get rid of Domata Peko.
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Atticus Finch posted:This team refuses to get rid of Domata Peko. cool hair curse
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bhsman posted:We got a dude with elite tools in the third round, don't be so down. That's what I was thinking. You just lost AJ. So gently caress it. See if this giant dude works...
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Not really happy that the Panthers are going to go two straight years with a duct taped together O-line. Jake Fisher was right there prime for the taking.
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^^ I wanted the Panthers to address the line. Obviously, they are going the Cams so big he can take the hits or whatever route and just surround him with talent. Nothing wrong with that. But if he gets injured because Oher and Martin are protecting him then.... Welp!
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I was upset because they drafted Geno Atkins because I thought they didn't need a DT. I've been rocking back and forth, sucking my thumb and muttering that to myself for an hour.
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Then cries. When he gets injured. Got it.
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Argh, gently caress all the teams that took the ILBs that Miami needed 
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This is the most Ted Thompson of drafts.
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Funchess is a physical freak who is also pretty dang slow and has a minor case of Braylonitis wherein he drops easy poo poo and then jumps over a car to catch a pass that should have been incomplete by a mile. Lol'ing real hard at Frank Clark getting drafted, and getting drafted in the 2nd round, and La'el Collins still not getting even whiffed at. The NFL is a weird dumb place sometimes.
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I'm okay with the Lions picks. They're fine. They're not great but whatever. I don't like the Abdullah pick very much when you could have sat around and gotten someone of similar quality a round later. I look forward to watching him fumble a game away.
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WHOOPS posted:Knowing that Waynes was picked to more or less be the #2 CB helps, thinking about his development but also long term expectations. Ideally, he doesn't need to consistently line up across from Johnson, Nelson or Jeffery, which itself is kind of unique because even in Winfield's prime, he was still only 5'8" and more effective at keeping receivers in front of him then straight up blanketing. I do wonder if Zimmer will keep Rhodes shadowing #1s every snap, though. Rhodes took it as a point of pride at the end of last year and had great results (Miami game notwithstanding). Knowing that all Waynes needs to do is develop into a good 2nd corner does help take some of the edge off of the pick. As for whether Zimmer will keep shadowing Rhodes on the other team's best receiver? It's not something that Zimmer has historically done and I think he did it because Rhodes was far and away their best corner and Robinson and Munnerlyn had difficulty defending the other team's top receivers. If Waynes develops into a player that Zimmer trusts, then I can see him keeping Rhodes at LCB and trying to shrink the field that the opposing team has to work with. As for the day two picks, I am extremely happy with Kendricks. He's a three down LB and arguably the best coverage LB in the draft. He has excellent range and makes a ton of tackles, though he's not an ideal run stuffer like McKinney. Not sure if his future is at MLB or WSL, but I expect him to be a fixture in the nickel package. In the third round, the Vikings supposedly tried to trade up for AJ Cann, but their package wasn't good enough and then they got stuck in a weird point in the draft and traded back twice to pick up an extra 5th and 6th round picks, which was a good move. I have mixed feelings on the Hunter pick. Athletically, he compares very favorably to Anthony Barr, but his production does not match his athletic numbers, so he's a major project. I do like that he can play both DE and SLB and I think he could carve out an early role as Barr's backup at SLB, since once Barr got hurt last season, we didn't have any similar players and our sugar blitz package really suffered, so Hunter should at least be useful in that capacity. I would have preferred to address offense or trade down from that pick, but the Vikings did do an excellent job with developing Barr, who was raw coming out of college, so there's a chance that they can turn Hunter into a good contributor. I'm very interested to see the Vikings defense this year. They were already a top 15 D in his first year and defenses usually make a big jump in their 2nd in the system, so that natural improvement along with adding three players in the first three rounds that fit his scheme, should allow him to run a lot more looks than he could last year. I think that their third down D should improve with Kendricks and upgraded CB depth, but I still have concerns about the run D, which should be better, but may not be good enough yet.
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Everything I have read about the Lions draft has mentioned "high character" about their picks, im glad Detroit is going to kick everyones rear end at going to church this season thank you Jim Caldwell!!!
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Eagles fans, what you think? I'm actually pretty excited about our 3 first picks. Don't know how our LBs are gonna pan out now, but our core is looking sick. I remember not too long ago what it was like before we got DeMeco.
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Fyi guys, Josh Gordon has tweeted "good pick cleveland" for every pick we've had so far. It's funny since hasn't really tweeted since his open letter.
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Flikken posted:Fyi guys, Josh Gordon has tweeted "good pick cleveland" for every pick we've had so far. It's funny since hasn't really tweeted since his open letter. ie. not a receiver Someone ask Taibbi what he thinks of drafting the weed guy after Hernandez
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Vikings: CB Trae Waynes - Great in some areas, crappy in some other areas. We need to rely on Zimmer to fix him up to starter quality. Fills a need though. Nice person. B LB Eric Kendricks - Here's hoping he could be the poor man's Vontaze Burfict in Zimmer's scheme, but he's undersized. Unless Eddie Lacy keeps running him over, he should be a good player. Tears shed by Packers fans after this pick were a good sign. A- DE Danielle Hunter - A toy project. B- Bengals: OT Cedric Ogbuehi - The OL coach is cumming all over the place about this guy.  AOT Jake Fisher - What the christ, another one? LB Paul Dawson - Pretty great pickup at that point. A- edit TE Tyler Croft - forgot all about him, but sounds like he's a catching TE and hopefully better at that than Gresham, so that's cool. Like having Twin Tylers at TE. They should change their jersey numbers to 9 and 11, that would be cool. pigdog fucked around with this message at 10:10 on May 2, 2015 |
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Flikken posted:Fyi guys, Josh Gordon has tweeted "good pick cleveland" for every pick we've had so far. It's funny since hasn't really tweeted since his open letter. I'm no draft expert but they seem to be mostly good picks (and none of them are receivers, so that might have something to do with it).
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Grittybeard posted:Duke was really fun to watch, I hope he's awesome. I don't have any idea, what do your RBs look like? We have Isiah Crowell and Terrence West. I'd prefer an all purpose 3 down back but this is a different era and multiple RB isn't a bad thing. Just not really sure about carrying 3 but ok. Duke is fine and talented but I'd have gone a different way. Hopefully we get some good dudes in rounds 4 and on. In the end they know what they're doing it seems so I'm kinda cool with it. I'd like sexy offense picks but am glad we got some good defense players. When we get a QB to build around next year versus drafting an offense and finding a QB that fits and works with a scheme. I think the Browns are making sound choices. Bengals picks are actually really talented all around but yeah it's loltastic. I hope Mack stays and Gordon cleans up. We'd have a good thing.
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Grittybeard posted:I'm no draft expert but they seem to be mostly good picks (and none of them are receivers, so that might have something to do with it). Yeah that last part is what I was getting at.
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So yesterday I thought the Bucs traded up because they wanted to take Gregory but then the Cowboys took him so they panicked and grabbed Marpet, but I'm reading now that they were targeting Marpet all along and jumped because Seattle was going to take him. Hmm... I don't know. While it addresses the Bucs needs I guess its an odd tandem of selections. Donovan Smith is a huge road grader power running guy who doesn't really fit the zone blocking scheme the Bucs started running last year. When he was taken at the top of the second people immediately started talking about how the Bucs must be moving back to a power running scheme but then they took Marpet, who absolutely fits the zone blocking scheme better than a power running one. Either choice by itself is fine I suppose, but I'm not sure how they fit together. It also seems that Licht should take over the riverboat moniker from Ron Rivera because all three picks this draft are high risk. Winston for obvious reasons, Smith because while he has the measurables of a second round lineman, he apparently has issues with his motor and dedication to football. There's a real chance that he busts spectacularly. Marpet is another high risk guy. Sure he looked great in Senior week and the combine, but he's spent his whole career defending against 220 lb. edge rushers who couldn't even be equipment manager at major university programs. It could all go spectacularly wrong and we could be doing another top down organizational purge in two years. Also this comment from SBnation made me giggle so you're getting it.  quote:Swedish Chef is my favorite Marpet
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Detroit_Dogg posted:I'm okay with the Lions picks. They're fine. They're not great but whatever. I don't like the Abdullah pick very much when you could have sat around and gotten someone of similar quality a round later. I look forward to watching him fumble a game away. Well we did need a replacement for Reggie Bush rabidsquid posted:Everything I have read about the Lions draft has mentioned "high character" about their picks, im glad Detroit is going to kick everyones rear end at going to church this season thank you Jim Caldwell!!! Considering how one of the players we drafted within the last few years who had "character issues" literally went insane, I can understand Mayhew being slightly reticent to repeat that experience.
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het posted:I'm still a little iffy on Scherff just because Williams was on the board and it sort of belies the claims to drafting BPA. A lot of people say Scherff could be a fantastic guard and a passable (maybe better than that) RT, which seems like questionable value for #5 overall. That said, I think this was more a case that nobody wanted to trade up to 5, so they took the top player on their board even if he'd be available a few picks down, which isn't awful. Either way he'll certainly be an improvement to the line, and maybe it means Morgan Moses can move to the interior if Scherff takes over RT. I wonder how much the offseason acquisitions of Paea and Knighton affected their not taking Williams Apparently some teams had Williams downgraded on account of his shoulder, and reports have that Scherff was BPA on the Redskin's board. I don't do this poo poo for a living and get paid millions of dollars so I'm going to assume that McCloughan knows what he's doing and is making the right call with respect to talent evaluation. Originally I was really annoyed with this pick but I think you and I are on the same page. What would have been really interesting is if the Raiders hadn't drafted Amari Cooper and he was available; apparently he was #2 on the Redskins' board. Smith I don't know much about, same with Jones. It sounds like we're both pretty much in agreement about everything, including loving the Seattle trade.
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So I have now discovered that the Dolphins 2nd round pick: Plays a position occupied by Suh Has a chronic back issue whilst weighing 330lbs Has concerns over his motor. Top work lads, top work. At least the trade down was good.
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Picked Dupree the first round. That's cool. Picked the only remaining CB the second round instead of trading up for Collins. Draft a WR in the third. F. edit: Just read they were planning on taking Williams had the Ravens not traded up to take him. I would've hated that pick too... Not a great blocking tight end apparently. F. They should move Coates to CB too.. gently caress it. Mughe fucked around with this message at 13:08 on May 2, 2015 |
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tarbrush posted:So I have now discovered that the Dolphins 2nd round pick: Mike Tanier's analysis was that he's basically Suh's new Fairley and gave props to Miami for understanding that they're going to need to rotate the line a lot because of the weather in Miami. Not saying he's right, but another perspective for you.
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I trust the Patriots when they "reach" on a lineman or linebacker more than the internet "experts." Their track record on OL, DL and LB is good. A pick like Geneo Grissom doesn't make me mad. But defensive back or receiver? Nope, it just means they fell in love with the smell of their own farts and jumped right up their own asses again. Just like when they passed on the leading receiver in the NCAA so they could take a dude from the Thundering Herd with the same measurables and 1/3 the production. Or every other receiver or DB pick in the first 3 rounds in the last decade. This is exactly like every other WR and DB gently caress up in living memory, but apparently it doesn't matter because they'll just hit on some 7th rounder and then borrow somebody in free agency or do a cheap-rear end trade and why the gently caress am I even complaining about the Patriots? At this point their chronic incompetence drafting those positions is part of the charm.
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