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Oh my god, he's their uncle. (Great uncle?) 
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I heard he's a giant chicken.
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May 7, 2015 17:34
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Now that Steve is an old man he got really racist and joined Hydra. This is also why Falcon hates him. EDIT: Sorry I forgot my spoiler tags
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May 7, 2015 17:37
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irlZaphod posted:I like the way there is 1 issue out, and people are already posting Internet rumours about how it's going to end. Nevvy Z posted:Oh my god, he's their uncle. (Great uncle?)
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May 7, 2015 17:39
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I legit hope that the X-Men stuff turns out to be true if only to make it so that the MCU changing/Inhumans push literally becomes toxic to the Marvel Universe as a whole.
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May 7, 2015 18:09
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The status quo title practically writes itself.
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May 7, 2015 18:24
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Senor Candle posted:Now that Steve is an old man he got really racist and joined Hydra. This is also why Falcon hates him. I hope when Captain Falcon finds out he goes "What are you thinking?" and Steve is like "Well...Sunspot bought AIM!" While I'm a fan of Captain rear end in a top hat America. It would be nice to see him go back to being Steve Rogers is always a decent human being after Secret Wars. I'm glad they're sticking with Captain Falcon though.
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May 7, 2015 18:35
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Senor Candle posted:There is a 0% chance Hickman actually kills Franklin and Valeria. How is that not the thing that stuck out to you? Franklin, Valeria, Dragon Man, and the other kids sacrifice their corporeal forms to become the cosmic abstract entities of the new universe - a Foundation for the Future, if you will.
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May 7, 2015 18:39
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Wachter posted:Franklin, Valeria, Dragon Man, and the other kids sacrifice their corporeal forms to become the cosmic abstract entities of the new universe - a Foundation for the Future, if you will. This is Hickman we're talking about please include Doom in your theories.
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May 7, 2015 19:00
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Doom becomes the new Living Tribunal. Living TriDOOMal.
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May 7, 2015 19:13
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:This is Hickman we're talking about please include Doom in your theories. The Beyonders are just a time-hosed echo of Doom's recent actions. He destroys worlds to stop their plan but their plan only exists as a reverberation of his own across space-time. When he yells into their void their response is only a distorted echo of his own arrogance.
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May 7, 2015 19:15
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redbackground posted:This is all speculation so I'm not spoiling--so since earth was destroyed, is there going to be ANOTHER terrigen mist outbreak around the globe once things are put back together? That's dumb. In the Uncanny Inhumans preview that's after Secret Wars the same mists that were released by Black Bolt are still slowly making their way around the world. More evidence that everything gets put back to somewhat exactly the same way it was before Secret Wars.
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May 7, 2015 19:47
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Wachter posted:Doom becomes the new Living Tribunal. Living TriDOOMal. Doom was always part of the living tribunal, he's the fully covered face.
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May 7, 2015 19:51
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Valeria is in the new Runaways book.
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May 7, 2015 19:59
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So the theory I'm working on right now is that the key line of this issue was Maker-Reed's "some things just refuse to die". I think that was Manifold and Reed's desperate Plan B: grab the stubbornest, defiantest, not-dyingest motherfuckers from the battle, pile them onto the ship, and send the ship right into the collision point where the last two universes hit each other and exploded. And I don't think there was much else to the plan other than "well, it might do something and we're all super-dead at this point so it's worth the shot". I'm also guessing that the indomitable wills to live on that ship are what decides what's drawn into Battleworld: Spider-Man's there, so a bunch of Spider-stuff, Scott is there, so there are a ton of X-Men, and so on.
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May 7, 2015 20:00
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I haven't been reading the Avengers/New Avengers stuff, how lost will I be if I hop on this thing by just buying Secret Wars #1?
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May 7, 2015 20:01
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OldTennisCourt posted:I haven't been reading the Avengers/New Avengers stuff, how lost will I be if I hop on this thing by just buying Secret Wars #1? Probably a lot. As far as incomprehensible events go it's pretty much the worst I've ever read from DC or Marvel, it is part one million or whatever of Hickman's Avengers run. It's not a jumping on point or new reader friendly event.
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May 7, 2015 20:03
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OldTennisCourt posted:I haven't been reading the Avengers/New Avengers stuff, how lost will I be if I hop on this thing by just buying Secret Wars #1? redbackground fucked around with this message at 20:27 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 20:05
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Waterhaul posted:Probably a lot. As far as incomprehensible events go it's pretty much the worst I've ever read from DC or Marvel, it is part one million or whatever of Hickman's Avengers run. It's not a jumping on point or new reader friendly event. 
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May 7, 2015 20:24
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OldTennisCourt posted:I haven't been reading the Avengers/New Avengers stuff, how lost will I be if I hop on this thing by just buying Secret Wars #1? Completely, the fact it has a #1 in the cover is pretty facetious.
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May 7, 2015 20:26
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Completely, the fact it has a #1 in the cover is pretty facetious. I'm genuinely surprised they didn't shove a recap page in there. I feel like one would not have been remiss. On my first read, I was hyped as hell, but on a reread I tried to see it as someone without context would and ... there's a loose framework of what's going on, but Maker Reed and all that is just like "yup, here's this stuff!" It's so weird. Unrelated: I love Hickman's love for white pages with ominous-as-gently caress light grey text.  It's here, it's in East of West, I feel like I've seen it in some of his other poo poo. It just pleases me a lot, assuming it's not coincidence.
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May 7, 2015 20:39
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A Tin Of Beans posted:I'm genuinely surprised they didn't shove a recap page in there. I feel like one would not have been remiss. On my first read, I was hyped as hell, but on a reread I tried to see it as someone without context would and ... there's a loose framework of what's going on, but Maker Reed and all that is just like "yup, here's this stuff!" I was trying to explain where Namor is right now to a friend and it took like half an hour.
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May 7, 2015 20:42
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Honestly, I just skimmed Avengers/New Avengers at best, and mostly to see if this was the one with the Ultimates in it (answer: no). What I knew coming in was that the multiverse was collapsing, everyone was freaking out and killing each other to try and save their own skins, some weirdo Beyond-type Beyonders were doing it (maybe?), and that was it. I followed the story just fine and feel like I'm honestly better off not having waded through two years of Ablam Mal or whoever the gently caress and grim overwroughtness as everyone just stands around and contemplates the inevitable end and how doomed everything is, which is Hickman's very favorite thing in the world you can't fool me, I read Fantastic Four. Skipping to the part where everything actually goes to poo poo makes the story more interesting.
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May 7, 2015 20:43
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If you wanna get into Secret Wars, you not only need to read every issue of Hickmans Avengers and New Avengers, but the Infinity event and probably Hickman's run on Ultimates as well. You also need to refer to some outside source to figure out the reading order too. Some passing familiar with the original Secret Wars including who the Beyonders are would probably help too. Well seeya.
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May 7, 2015 20:44
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CapnAndy posted:So the theory I'm working on right now is that the key line of this issue was Maker-Reed's "some things just refuse to die". I think that was Manifold and Reed's desperate Plan B: grab the stubbornest, defiantest, not-dyingest motherfuckers from the battle, pile them onto the ship, and send the ship right into the collision point where the last two universes hit each other and exploded. And I don't think there was much else to the plan other than "well, it might do something and we're all super-dead at this point so it's worth the shot". Its where Hyperion was standing when he survived too so there might be some pseudoscience explanation that they cut out. On further thought, I bet Battleworld is made of chunks of worlds that is a small section of each incursion point. Like the empty shell of a claymore mine pointed out at the rest of the universe. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 20:52 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 20:48
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It does seem curious that the original resurrection team seemed to consist of folks like Beast and Amadeus Cho and the one Manifold gathered as a plan B consisted of a bunch of heavy bruiser mofos. And Spider-Man. And Star-Lord. Am I the only one who thinks the art could have used...a bit more revising? Amadeus looked about forty-seven and Captain Marvel was pretty dire too. CapnAndy posted:feel like I'm honestly better off not having waded through two years of Ablam Mal or whoever the gently caress and grim overwroughtness as everyone just stands around and contemplates the inevitable end and how doomed everything is, which is Hickman's very favorite thing in the world you can't fool me, I read Fantastic Four. I'm incredibly glad I read through all that before reading this but still, this...this is correct.
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May 7, 2015 21:01
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So, I don't really read comics much (Just started Marvel Unlimited today, really), but I played Ultimate Alliance a lot and Marvel Heroes now  .So really all I'm interested in is: 1. What's all this business with Doctor Doom and some Great Destroyer? 2. Who's been killed off already?
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May 7, 2015 21:18
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Like everyone is dead except for the Cabal and the life raft team, and maybe Doctor Doom + Strange + Molecule Man.
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May 7, 2015 21:20
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I wonder how Spider-Man feels about Aunt May, MJ etc being atomized. That's gotta take some pep out of his step.
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May 7, 2015 21:21
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The shorter list is who survived. A crap-ton of characters are dead.
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May 7, 2015 21:22
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LordHippoman posted:2. Who's been killed off already?
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May 7, 2015 21:22
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LordHippoman posted:2. Who's been killed off already? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MSI21ZZlM4 
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May 7, 2015 21:25
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LordHippoman posted:So, I don't really read comics much (Just started Marvel Unlimited today, really), but I played Ultimate Alliance a lot and Marvel Heroes now 2. EVERYBODY.
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May 7, 2015 21:26
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My preferred version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shs7VQhVvxA
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May 7, 2015 21:27
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So, I guess this is super premature, but what would the endgame be here? Is the MU getting restarted back on Earth after this whole thing goes down? Is Battleworld going to be the New 52 style status quo for everything? Is Ms. Marvel still alive? I assume her series is continuing?
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May 7, 2015 21:31
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OldTennisCourt posted:So, I guess this is super premature, but what would the endgame be here? Is the MU getting restarted back on Earth after this whole thing goes down? Is Battleworld going to be the New 52 style status quo for everything? Is Ms. Marvel still alive? I assume her series is continuing? To tell a big story. Probably not. Probably not. Yes. Yes.
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May 7, 2015 21:32
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OldTennisCourt posted:So, I guess this is super premature, but what would the endgame be here? Is the MU getting restarted back on Earth after this whole thing goes down? Is Battleworld going to be the New 52 style status quo for everything? Is Ms. Marvel still alive? I assume her series is continuing? The end game is the FCBD Avengers issue. Everything is pretty much normal except Miles is around and the X-Men and Fantastic Four aren't.
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May 7, 2015 21:33
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I think Ms. Marvel is probably dead like everyone else, because she was not explicitly shown to be ported onto the life raft, and that Doom is going to save everyone by making Battleworld out of chunks of destroyed universes somehow, probably by doing time poo poo.
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May 7, 2015 21:35
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Doom is going to save everyone then gloat over Richard's dead family. Richards (no longer having a family) goes insane like every other Richards and proceeds to recreate the multiverse just to piss off Doom.
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For people looking for the entire run up to Secret Wars, Senor Candle posted the following in the previous thread with link to the entire Avengers & New Avengers comixology bundles for pretty decent prices. Senor Candle posted:Cross posting this from the Digital Comics and Avengers thread.
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