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Warbadger posted:Gotta wait until they get India to buy a bunch before that one emerges. They were too busy squatting to properly operate the tank.
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xthetenth posted:They were too busy squatting to properly operate the tank. Somebody threw a valenok on the control panel
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# ? May 8, 2015 00:37 |
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The inputs get sticky when you spill Jaguar energy drink on them.
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bewbies posted:This is sort of the direction things are headed, but the obvious limitation is that this sort of mutual defense setup limits your ability to move independently. The first big step is integrating the sensors, with the major effort being to implement some sort of elevated sensor (probably a small-ish rotary wing UAS) that hovers above the unit that can detect launches at much greater distances. Aren't we basically at the point where nothing moves independently in an urban environment? Besides, we're talking about DE weapons that, by the time they're deployed, will have vastly improved cooldown times and multiple emitters per vehicle.
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# ? May 8, 2015 03:57 |
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Everyone who likes sci-fi and tank defense systems needs to read David Drake's Hammers Slammers series of books if they haven't already. He was a tanker in Vietnam before writing the book series.Stolen from Wiki posted:The Complete Hammer's Slammers (2006): is a three volume set from Night Shade Books that contains all Hammer's Slammers fiction, including three new stories written for this set. Volume 1 was released in January 2006, and features an introduction by Gene Wolfe. Volume 2 (introduction by David G Hartwell) was released January 2007, with Volume 3 (introduction by Barry Malzberg) following in November 2007. Best just to pickup volume one and go from there.
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Totally TWISTED posted:Everyone who likes sci-fi and tank defense systems needs to read David Drake's Hammers Slammers series of books if they haven't already. He was a tanker in Vietnam before writing the book series. Hammers Slammers is pretty rad, the tanks all have a terminal defense system that is basically a strip of space claymores laid around the hull- they can be automatically activated by the onboard computer to intercept AT weapons or manually triggered by the tank commander as a close in anti-infantry weapon.
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I also commend him for writing the only military sci-fi I've read where propellant gasses stink and people occasionally need to clear a jam.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I also commend him for writing the only military sci-fi I've read where propellant gasses stink and people occasionally need to clear a jam. For more in that vein, read Glen Cook's Passage at Arms. It's pretty much Das Boot in space, complete with the food sucking more the longer the mission goes on and the ship developing a serious mold problem.
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ArchangeI posted:For more in that vein, read Glen Cook's Passage at Arms. It's pretty much Das Boot in space, complete with the food sucking more the longer the mission goes on and the ship developing a serious mold problem. I will second that. Both the recommendation and that it is Das Boot in space. Just don't read it if you are already depressed!
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Polikarpov posted:Hammers Slammers is pretty rad, the tanks all have a terminal defense system that is basically a strip of space claymores laid around the hull- they can be automatically activated by the onboard computer to intercept AT weapons or manually triggered by the tank commander as a close in anti-infantry weapon. 4th or 5thing that these books gave me a total mil-spec-boner growing up and I only had 3 or 4 of them.
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Dark Helmut posted:4th or 5thing that these books gave me a total mil-spec-boner growing up and I only had 3 or 4 of them. Books, boners, or both?
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So I finally finished reading the entire thread Saw a lot of proposals for folding the USMC into the Army. As a doctrine (not as a real possibility), would it make sense to also fold the Air Force into the Navy? Considering the emphasis on Air/Sea Battle, my initial glance would give 'everything that flies and everything that floats' to this super branch, and let the Army chill out state side. Am I completely wrong? Is there a doctrinal reason why Air Force and Navy shouldn't be best buddies?
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There is no way in hell I want the people doing the air support to ground operations to be the same ones who want big shiny ships.
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Fold all branches of the military into one branch, make the armed forces act like a combiner from Transformers or Voltron or something. alternate answer: everyone has to sing the Captain Planet theme song at all times. That'll teach you joint service cooperation or whatever. Psion fucked around with this message at 19:26 on May 8, 2015 |
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I think the Navy's recommendations on fighters should get priority over the Air Force's, though. It seems like being forced to use carriers as your airbases leads to you not asking for dumb poo poo as often (this is my admittedly cursory reading of postwar fighter development)
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Forums Terrorist posted:I think the Navy's recommendations on fighters should get priority over the Air Force's, though. It seems like being forced to use carriers as your airbases leads to you not asking for dumb poo poo as often (this is my admittedly cursory reading of postwar fighter development) Strongly concur. When you give a Navy fighter to the Air Force you get the F-4. The other way around you get the TFX. Call it the Phantom Precedent.
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OR you could have two different planes, and then you get the F-15 and the F-14, or the F-16 and the F-18.
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Mortabis posted:OR you could have two different planes, and then you get the F-15 and the F-14, or the F-16 and the F-18. F-14 isn't necessarily the best example because the F-15 was the far more reliable airframe. The F16/F18 split is the navy's temper tantrum. The F-16 and F-18 (as the YF-17) were (effectively) the two competitors in the LWF competition. The Navy preferred the YF-17 so when the air force chose the F-16 they came up with their own competition and asked for a YF-17 with a few changes that became the F-18. As a result we can't make Navy Viper BSG jokes.
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Mortabis posted:OR you could have two different planes, and then you get the F-15 and the F-14, or the F-16 and the F-18. Or you could just accept than America is a maritime country and that there is no God but Neptune and Alfred Thayer Mahan (pbuh) is his prophet.
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# ? May 8, 2015 21:47 |
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5 more years of British f35 purchases ahead
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Baracula posted:5 more years of British f35 purchases ahead First British F-35 starts service in 2022, then
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LowellDND posted:So I finally finished reading the entire thread Forums Terrorist posted:I think the Navy's recommendations on fighters should get priority over the Air Force's, though. It seems like being forced to use carriers as your airbases leads to you not asking for dumb poo poo as often (this is my admittedly cursory reading of postwar fighter development) Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 22:42 on May 8, 2015 |
# ? May 8, 2015 22:37 |
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Is this list inaccurate? Also, every time I see that page I wonder how you end up as a US army fixed wing aviator.
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# ? May 8, 2015 22:52 |
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oh it's on now, buddy.
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# ? May 8, 2015 22:57 |
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Every time I see the A-12 Avenger II, all I can think about is parking four of them in a neat little square.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Or you could just accept than America is a maritime country and that there is no God but Neptune and Alfred Thayer Mahan (pbuh) is his prophet. Church of the latter day Friedmans, punk.
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Psion posted:oh it's on now, buddy. - Designed as a gunfighter - Gun design tends to jam during BFM - Got most of its kills with missiles - Daytime only - From a Naval War College paper: "In all, 1,261 Crusaders were built. By the time it was withdrawn from the fleet, 1,106 had been involved in mishaps. Only a handful of them were lost to enemy fire in Vietnam. While the F-8 statistics might have been worse than those for most other models, they make the magnitude of the problem clear: whether from engine failure, pilot error, weather, or bad luck, the vast majority (88 percent!) of Crusaders ever built ended up as smoking holes in the ground, splashes in the water, or fireballs hurtling across a flight deck." - Still considered a relative success in Navy fighter procrement
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Dead Reckoning posted:- Designed as a gunfighter
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# ? May 8, 2015 23:14 |
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Incorrect.
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In response to a patch about a plane introduced in 1957 you reply with a plane that was introduced in 1976. now regardless of how seriously you or I are taking this argument that is a bad post and you are bad. Please study on how to post about the USAF by copying the mannerisms of former SA forums poster Slippery.
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Psion posted:In response to a patch about a plane introduced in 1957 you reply with a plane that was introduced in 1976. The Crusader was retired in 1976. When we ran out of Crusaders, we actually got better at fighters. Makes you think.
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Dead Reckoning posted:The Crusader was retired in 1976. When we ran out of Crusaders, we actually got better at fighters. Makes you think. This is a gun forum right, 4 guns > 1 gun.
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# ? May 9, 2015 00:21 |
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Well, you could have four of the aerial gunnery equivalent of a HiPoint JHP .45... or you could have this sweet piece of Title II awesomeness:
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# ? May 9, 2015 00:34 |
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What, you're saying that a gun that jams during high g forces and has severe accuracy issues is inappropriate for a fighter?!
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# ? May 9, 2015 00:52 |
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That's impossible, everyone knows being forced to use carriers as your airbases leads to you not asking for dumb poo poo as often.
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Yay SeaMaster!
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Polikarpov posted:Hammers Slammers is pretty rad, the tanks all have a terminal defense system that is basically a strip of space claymores laid around the hull- they can be automatically activated by the onboard computer to intercept AT weapons or manually triggered by the tank commander as a close in anti-infantry weapon. Funny thing is, that's basically Drozd , in service less than five years after the book was released. That's pretty impressive for 1983 even if the thing must have sucked rear end given the basically nonexistent deployment. EDIT : Or it's proof that even Soviet Marines love boondogles. Kafouille fucked around with this message at 01:16 on May 9, 2015 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:The navy has neither the inclination nor the training to manage strategic air and space operations. The largest aircraft they have more than 20 of is
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That's an AF F-4D painted as Ritchie's 6-kill jet (he had 2 of those). The real one is on a stick at the Academy.
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