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So, uh, what's wrong with the QNIX? Because one or two of those seem like a no-brainer kind of way to go, if they're good. But that eBay site appears to have been written by a Nigerian prince. Ideally, I'm looking for a good price:performance ratio, and I don't mind putting in some work to overclock (and five minutes ago, I didn't even know monitor overclocking was a thing), so that seems like my best bet. The Acer seems like it'd be about 3 times as much for what would likely be a 10-20% improvement, if I'm reading the specs right? And I don't think I'd want a 39" monitor on my desk; I'd go for an ultrawide before that, I feel like. Thank you for the recommendations!
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Thanatosian posted:So, uh, what's wrong with the QNIX? Because one or two of those seem like a no-brainer kind of way to go, if they're good. But that eBay site appears to have been written by a Nigerian prince. The QNIX ships from Korea, and the reason why it's so cheap is because they're built with LED panels that OEMs like Samsung rejected to use in their own products. These panels CAN BE perfectly with regards to dead pixels/trapped dust/backlight bleed, but still get thrown out for any a number of other reasons. QNIX buys and shoves these panels into cheap housings to make cheap monitors and sell them. Upsides: - Cost, as you see. - Overclocking. Very simple if you have an NVidia card, slightly more complicated if you've got AMD, but there's a lot of information/guides. It varies based on how nice a panel you're shipped, but some owners report being able to go to 120Hz refresh rate, though the highest rate you can get dependably seems to be 96Hz. - 1440p display Downsides: - Spotty QC. Sometimes there are dead pixels or dust in the panels. Some panels come offset in the monitor casing, requiring you to either open it up and reseat it yourself or ask for a new unit, which can suck because... - It ships from Korea, and you'll need to ship it back to Korea if you want a replacement, if they'll even offer one. - lovely stand. Can't adjust it at all, and in my case it came poorly cast/drilled so it wobbled a lot if I touched it. Everyone recommends picking up a nice VESA mount if you don't already have one (can run another 20-50 bucks depending on the type you want) - lovely buttons/features. There are brightness buttons but no indicator of what level you're on. There are volume buttons but my speaker sounded like hot garbage no matter what I tried, YMMV though. - Korean power plug, but it comes with a US AC/DC adapter. - Only supports Dual Link DVI cables, no HDMI. If I were you I'd look up return policies/experiences with people who needed to return it before I bought one, but I gambled on it and don't regret it at all. EDIT: additional downside and rewording for clarity. Thirst Mutilator fucked around with this message at 22:53 on May 14, 2015 |
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May 14, 2015 22:48
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I have a qnix for sale on samart http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3720099&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post445323012
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May 14, 2015 22:52
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Thanatosian posted:The Acer seems like it'd be about 3 times as much for what would likely be a 10-20% improvement, if I'm reading the specs right? Look into what G-Sync does, in practice the Acer will look a lot smoother than a fixed sync display like the QNIX even if you crank its refresh rate way up.
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May 14, 2015 23:00
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Thirst Mutilator posted:- lovely buttons/features. There are brightness buttons but no indicator of what level you're on. For gaming this is a good thing, though. My old 2008 30" IPS has better response time than most recent IPS screens due to the lack of OSD/scaler.
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May 15, 2015 00:10
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Truga posted:For gaming this is a good thing, though. My old 2008 30" IPS has better response time than most recent IPS screens due to the lack of OSD/scaler. Does OSD affect that? The scaler I understand, but I didn't know that having OSD capability impacted latency.
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May 15, 2015 00:14
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Zorilla posted:39" and Above 4K I think the ship has sailed on the Crossover, one eBay seller says they're not getting any more stock because Crossover is releasing a new model that uses a different panel. I emailed dream-seller about their stock but didn't hear back.
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May 15, 2015 00:25
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Subjunctive posted:Does OSD affect that? The scaler I understand, but I didn't know that having OSD capability impacted latency. I guess it can depend on implementation, but consensus on the internet is that since OSD requires some sort of image processing that yes, you will get extra latency. I'm guessing most of the higher cost monitors will have a separate buffer for OSD and just plaster that over your picture, but who knows what all these <$500 27"+ IPS screens do.
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Papercut posted:I think the ship has sailed on the Crossover, one eBay seller says they're not getting any more stock because Crossover is releasing a new model that uses a different panel. I emailed dream-seller about their stock but didn't hear back. EDXglobal said they were expecting more in Mid-may. Since that message, they restocked and sold out again, so you're probably right. Let us know how your AMH monitor ends up working out for you when you get it. I'm interested in whether the glare ends up being a hindrance, or if it's no worse than something like an iMac.
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Zorilla posted:EDXglobal said they were expecting more in Mid-may. Since that message, they restocked and sold out again, so you're probably right. I ended up canceling the order because I changed my mind again.  I realized that having my desk in a Victorian south-facing window (so windows on 3 sides) probably means I should really prioritize anti-glare.
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repiv posted:Look into what G-Sync does, in practice the Acer will look a lot smoother than a fixed sync display like the QNIX even if you crank its refresh rate way up. I'm not unwilling to drop that kind of money, but I'm not in any rush, either, especially if waiting a little bit will save me some dough or get me a substantially better monitor.
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I think I should mention that going by a (tiny) sample size of this thread, chances of getting a lovely acer and having to RMA it due to dead pixels/backlight bleed/etc. is about 50%? I'd say for that kind of price, that's simply unacceptable, but people seem to be going for it anyway 
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May 15, 2015 11:30
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Hopefully the second lot is a bit better. It's as much of a lottery as getting something shipped from Korea.
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May 15, 2015 11:43
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It's a bit of a toss up because for a week or so this thread had 10-15 people buying Qnix or that other Korean special, myself included, and I don't think anyone was interested in actually returning the things because the defects were more or less invisible. I can only see mine under pure black and even then they aren't something that interfere with the actual picture because they are two .5mm diameter circles that are just slightly lighter then the background. Some people did hate their mounts though. If price is at all an issue (I could never afford a 270BU atm), the Qnix is really, really good at $220. If it's not, then yeah you have other great options. The Acer defect thing is pretty ridiculous though when it's a $800 monitor. Mazz fucked around with this message at 12:17 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 15, 2015 12:15
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The RoG Swift had similar extreme QC issues when it first launched, lot of people from this thread even bought and then returned them. While crappy, I think it is not unexpected for first-of-their-kind supermonitors.
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Yeah I'm almost thinking I would rather get that middle-of-the-road BenQ and maybe doubling up in a couple of years when G-Sync/Freesync is a bit more mature. But then again I'm not going to buy anything until August so I can wait and see for a little while longer. IF Acer can sort that poo poo out, then I'm in. But that seems like a pretty big if at the moment.
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May 15, 2015 13:00
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Mozi posted:Holy poo poo, there it is. No question about it. This is awesome. If I remember there's some burn in patterns you can run for a while that are reasonably effective at fixing dead pixels. E: actually that's for stuck pixels, it looks like for dead pixels you're supposed to gently rub it with a microfiber cloth Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 14:56 on May 15, 2015 |
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Does anyone have experience with pico/nano/mino LED projectors for light-duty home entertainment purposes? In other words, I am not going to complain if the resolution is not equal to a 4k monitor or even 1080p (720p would be nice though). We are moving to a new house and want to have a screen-free downstairs for aesthetic reasons, but being able to hide a little projector on a shelf somewhere and put out reasonable looking video off of an Apple TV would be nice. The AAXA P450 mode looks nice, for starters.
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May 15, 2015 20:20
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Arn't they like, a 42" tv and its 6ft away from the wall?
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Smashing Link posted:Does anyone have experience with pico/nano/mino LED projectors for light-duty home entertainment purposes? In other words, I am not going to complain if the resolution is not equal to a 4k monitor or even 1080p (720p would be nice though). We are moving to a new house and want to have a screen-free downstairs for aesthetic reasons, but being able to hide a little projector on a shelf somewhere and put out reasonable looking video off of an Apple TV would be nice. The biggest issue with pico projectors is the low amount of light they put out. For reference the one you're looking at is 450 lumens while a standard home theater projector is in the 3000-3500 range. Depending on how far away the projector is from the wall you want to display it on a pico projector might be totally washed out unless the room was very dark. Just to be clear you don't want a screen in the room but you're still going to have a blank wall for the projector to use? The real answer is to get one of these. 
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I just replaced my Dell 23" from 2011 (U2311h ) With an ASUS 29" ultra-wide from 2013(?) (PB298Q) and holy crap. I thought the only difference would be a bigger screen, but the image is much, much more crisp on the PB298Q and the contrast is a LOT better. Just thought I'd put that out there fore general info purposes.
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Smashing Link posted:Does anyone have experience with pico/nano/mino LED projectors for light-duty home entertainment purposes? In other words, I am not going to complain if the resolution is not equal to a 4k monitor or even 1080p (720p would be nice though). We are moving to a new house and want to have a screen-free downstairs for aesthetic reasons, but being able to hide a little projector on a shelf somewhere and put out reasonable looking video off of an Apple TV would be nice. To echo this, they just don't throw enough light to be a serious option for movies. Newegg had a couple 3000-lumen 1080p-native cinema projectors for $600 this week, that's what I'd suggest if you wanted to buy new. If you happen to be anywhere near Michigan, I have a big projector (Powerlite 8150i, 3200 lumens, 1024x768 native, the kind that hang from the ceilings in classrooms) that I've been trying to flog off on Craigslist for a while. But you probably won't be tucking it in a shelf.
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Thanks for the feedback. I guess I will shop around for a good 3000 lumen that is fairly small and inconspicuous.
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Krailor posted:The real answer is to get one of these.
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So incredibly cool, and yet it cannot do 4K 60Hz with 4:4:4 like most recent 4K TVs (it requires 4:2:0 for above 30Hz 4K). A weird omission.
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:Holy loving poo poo $50K but its badass. I was going to make fun of their idea of using it as an always-on digital art display, but then I realized that the kind of person who can drop $50k on a projector doesn't care in the slightest about a few hundred bucks for a bulb every few months or the extra 500 watts of power draw. edit: Ok, apparently it's light source is a laser diode rated at 20k hours, or over two years of constant use. Can't find anything about replacement though. wolrah fucked around with this message at 04:32 on May 17, 2015 |
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Someone tell me why this monitor is terrible for gaming and will be awful with my 970 as a cheap G-Sync monitor: Acer XB240H ABPR Black 24" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009729
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Well, it's not a 27" 1440p monitor, so you're already doing it wrong, and it's TN instead of IPS (which is actually a legit complaint if you want to use it for something other than gaming), and you're buying it from a store that still charges you $1.99 shipping. Other than that it looks ok.
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The quality difference between TN and IPS is a lot more obvious than you may think too. Put a TN monitor next to an IPS and you will know straight away which is which: the IPS one won't look like poo poo.
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SwissCM posted:The quality difference between TN and IPS is a lot more obvious than you may think too. Put a TN monitor next to an IPS and you will know straight away which is which: the IPS one won't look like poo poo. I see. Does anyone have a suggestion for a G-sync capable monitor under $500 that is IPS?
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I don't think that even exists. GSync adds 100-200 dollars to the price tag. IPS adds to it as well.
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Is there a workaround to this https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2625567
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Don Lapre posted:Is there a workaround to this I wouldn't mind knowing the answer to that one.
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Don Lapre posted:Is there a workaround to this I had a similar problem with HDMI where switching off one monitor in a multi-monitor setup would cause the remaining screen to flash, and the entire desktop plus open windows to be relocated to the secondary monitor (even though I didn't want them to; I just wanted one screen switched off). Windows is really lovely at handling this stuff and the only workaround was to cover up the HDMI pin (I forgot the exact pin number) that transmitted the "power off" signal to the PC using a small piece of electrical tape. This meant the PC did not know when the monitor was switched off. I have no idea whether a similar trick is possible with DisplayPort (it depends exactly on how the feature is implemented) but some googling couldn't hurt. e: inevitably, I got curious and googled it myself. Pin 18 / Hot Plug Detect is the offender on DisplayPort. This appears, superficially at least, to be directly analogous to HDMI's Pin 19 / Hot Plug Detect - here's some people talking about the issue with a link to the tape fix. It can also be fixed by physically removing the pin, or even better, removing the pin from a male-to-female adaptor that you place between cable and GPU so your actual cable isn't affected. Oh, and (slightly embarrassingly after all these words) there may be a simpler software solution in your GPU drivers. In my case I was using an Intel iGPU which had no such functionality, but on that last link I gave there's guys talking about an option in AMD's catalyst drivers. So maybe try that first 
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There could be a market for a usb-condom-like device that acts like a coupler but disconnects that pin.
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taqueso posted:There could be a market for a usb-condom-like device that acts like a coupler but disconnects that pin. You can quite possibly make your own with e.g. a miniDP to DP adaptor (like is provided with many GPUs) by ripping out the Hot Plug pin with pliers. See my edit above by the way!
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Alright, let me rephrase. What is the cheapest IPS G-sync monitor you all would recommend?
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CubeTheory posted:Alright, let me rephrase. What is the cheapest IPS G-sync monitor you all would recommend? The $800 Acer
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Don Lapre posted:The $800 Acer though being as the customer sat score for acer monitors in this thread seems to be lower than literal grey market korean factory castoffs might be better to take a rain check on that one Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 19:53 on May 17, 2015 |
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The unsatisfactory experience is always going to be louder than the satisfactory experience. Plus, isn't Acer replacing the monitors with hairs and dead pixels? I remember back when you had to have a bunch of dead pixels in a small area in order to get a manufacturer to even consider an RMA.
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