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Elucidarius posted:I mean, I guess in the grand scheme of Battleworld I didn't see how it fit. Why couldn't these people just ask Doom to move them to a new kingdom? I'll probably buy #2 but I just felt like it would make more sense on its own not tied into anything. I don't really think there is a way for the non nobles to petition Doom for redress, and as mentioned a few times, travel between kingdoms is rather hard (unauthorized travel even gets the attention of Strange). And like any oppressed people what's to make you think that any other kingdom wants them? Related to that how big are kingdoms? I swear a couple of them seem like they're the size of the all US or even the whole earth? I mean I'm sure there is a sliding scale or loose rules for story purposes, but they all seem huge compared to an incursion point. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jun 3, 2015 |
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gfanikf posted:I don't really think there is a way for the non nobles to petition Doom for redress as and as mentioned a few times, travel between kingdoms is rather hard (unauthorized travel even gets the attention of strange). And like any oppressed people what's to make you think that any other kingdom wants them. Good point. I was wondering how large they were too because in Years of Future Past Kelly mentioned landing in New York and "The United Doomstates" which makes it seem like it is the same size as the US.
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I like the idea Doom makes an effective God, not only because DOOM!, but also because he has prior experience making a universe and being God. He has already tried and failed to make a world in his image.
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gfanikf posted:I don't really think there is a way for the non nobles to petition Doom for redress, and as mentioned a few times, travel between kingdoms is rather hard (unauthorized travel even gets the attention of Strange). And like any oppressed people what's to make you think that any other kingdom wants them?
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Elucidarius posted:I mean, I guess in the grand scheme of Battleworld I didn't see how it fit. Why couldn't these people just ask Doom to move them to a new kingdom? I'll probably buy #2 but I just felt like it would make more sense on its own not tied into anything. Endless Mike posted:Chris Sims talked about it on Rachel and Miles X-Plain the X-Men and in he and Chad Bowers' original pitch for X-Men '92, they talked about sending them to all those '90s locales like Genosha and Madripoor and editorial nixed it, explaining that they're not on a whole planet, so I wonder if different editors are using different sized sections. I recommend everyone listen to that episode of Rachel & Miles, it's amazing.  Albeit with very mild spoilers for X-Men '92.
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Domalom posted:I like the idea Doom makes an effective God, not only because DOOM!, but also because he has prior experience making a universe and being God. He has already tried and failed to make a world in his image. The next panel was Valeria just nodding at her wacky uncle doom wasnt it?
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Endless Mike posted:Chris Sims talked about it on Rachel and Miles X-Plain the X-Men and in he and Chad Bowers' original pitch for X-Men '92, they talked about sending them to all those '90s locales like Genosha and Madripoor and editorial nixed it, explaining that they're not on a whole planet, so I wonder if different editors are using different sized sections. That interview makes me hate how long we have to wait for a print version. It just sounds amazingly fun. The twins in Lilttle AvsX can't be the Maximoffs, there's already a Lil Scarlet Witch. I liked when she is pushing Lil Rogue and Rogue does not look up from her phone. Years of future past was not bad. I enjoy the setting and I like how it tries to be in tune with the Claremont era. Rachael having her hound outfit was neat too. Renew Your Vows was pretty meh. I like the idea of Spider-Man having to go outside his comfort zone to protect his family, but over all it fell flat.
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Unnnngh the worst part of this even is that the tie-ins cant even compete with the main series. This is the worst feeling!
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twistedmentat posted:The twins in Lilttle AvsX can't be the Maximoffs, there's already a Lil Scarlet Witch. I liked when she is pushing Lil Rogue and Rogue does not look up from her phone. Wow, totally didn't even notice. I just assumed it was poking fun at the whole Disney vs Fox thing.
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When was the last time we saw the face of Doom? I mean, my head just about exploded but I don't notice anyone else mentioning it so..
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Not many times. This is certainly the most hosed up looking he's been tho.
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I haven't been reading a regular series since I was in high school, and I seriously don't know how you people do this. 22 pages of Secret Wars, and then double super cliffhanger, wait until December (or maybe even later!) before you'll see the whole story! I just read all of Hickman's Avengers and New Avengers over a week to learn the backstory for Secret Wars, and I cannot handle going to a one-a-month schedule, especially now that dates are starting to slip. I seriously have to just forget about this until next year.
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Elucidarius posted:Wow, totally didn't even notice. I just assumed it was poking fun at the whole Disney vs Fox thing. What other twins are there? The Struckers? But yea, when I saw the post, that's what I assumed they had done. And yea, that Doom face was pretty awesome. The only other times I can remember seeing Doom maskless they showed him having scars or burns. Missing a whole nose and lips and teeth just grotesque.
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It's still a Fox/Marvel joke even if that's not them.
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They're also poking fun on their own stuff seeing as Battleworld has a panel making fun of Avengers Arena.
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twistedmentat posted:What other twins are there? The Struckers? It kind of reminded me about Kingdom of Heaven and the scene where the King dies and we see Eva Green remove his mask, showing Ed Norton's face destroyed by leprosy.
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SynthOrange posted:The next panel was Valeria just nodding at her wacky uncle doom wasnt it? Future Val kisses Doom on the cheek, tells Doom to say thank you and he tells Reed they're even. Then she looks at Doom's old kingdom and says "Here I can build" Fantastic Four #611( I read it today for the first time)
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I still say adult Franklin and Valeria were spared or somehow will jump start the new multiverse. I'd love to see them be the future for the M.U. like the Fantastic Four were for Marvel. "First superhero family" type stuff.
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It just hit me that thanks to the 8 year gap Franklin and Valeria now make sense being drawn as 10-11 year olds. EDIT: Then again this Susan is just Susan Storm and I doubt Doom would keep the Richards name around (has any other Reed been shown in any of the zones?) so who loving knows. If they are copies of 616 then maybe? I also really like Susan's new costume. Happy Noodle Boy fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Jun 4, 2015 |
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I read Renew Your Vows and Armor Wars and they were so bad that I dont even want to bother with the rest of this weeks tie ins.
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I'm pretty sure the white event that Franklin Richards and Valeria took part in when they "jumped" was in fact this event and their alive.
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net cafe scandal posted:I read Renew Your Vows and Armor Wars and they were so bad that I dont even want to bother with the rest of this weeks tie ins. Read Battleworld and Giant Sized Little Marvels AvX, they will save you.
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Hollismason posted:I'm pretty sure the white event that Franklin Richards and Valeria took part in when they "jumped" was in fact this event and their alive. I think that was just time catching up to them wherever it was they were working from. That jump led them directly to facing the Mad Celestials so it's a neat idea but I doubt it. Adult Valeria and Nathaniel probably got wind of incursions from the council gates as they closed/lost connection permanently. Franklin likely survived and may come into play to fight Beyonders (if they return). I'd love to see them again.
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net cafe scandal posted:I read Renew Your Vows and Armor Wars and they were so bad that I dont even want to bother with the rest of this weeks tie ins. I kind of didn't like any of the tie-ins this week all that much, but Armor Wars stuck out to me as particularly awful. Did Robinson wake up one morning, realize the script was due that afternoon, and just summarized that one bit on Technopolis that Hickman presented as part of his 256 slide SECRET WARS Power Point that Robinson half-remembered at the writer's retreat? TNG fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Jun 4, 2015 |
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Yeah I'll drop Battleworld. It really doesnt add much at all. Master of Kung Fu was pretty good tho, even if lol Cypher dies again Nothing else really looked interesting enough to pick up, or scared me off. Peter David, writing Hulk? Oh yess... OH gently caress ITS GREG LAND.
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Hey so uh what ever happened to Stark? Last thing I remember was he was in the shamecube and spiderwoman and black window were walking away from him as he was screaming he was the only one who could save them. Then there was a shot with the other illuminati looking at his broken cube and blood and some metal and a spine were there and everyone was sad. Is he a baron on some dumb techno-robot world and they just....never showed what happened or do I need to read the Iron Man series to see?
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Uh did you skip the last few issues of Avengers?
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Armor Wars was way too much set up and too much "As you know" dialog. One thing I did like was the design of Spyder-Man.
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Hakkesshu posted:Wasn't that original Stark in Ultimate End? Unless they pop up elsewhere and explain how they survived an incursion, Cap and Tony are super dead. The Stark from Ultimate End is the same as everyone else in Battleworld: a creation of Doom.
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tony and caps corpses are giant sized and sitting next to the life raft the cabal came out of probably.
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Infinity Gauntlet was really drat good in both the story and art department. Inferno was okay, felt like a bit of a slog and poorly paced, though I'm find with the story overall. I thought the Scott as Xavier art was neat. The Inhuman tie in was good too. X Men 92 was awesome if you read it in the voices of the cartoon characters. I still have a couple of others from the week and last week to finish, but man most of the tie ins are pretty good and not making things easy for my wallet in the future.
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So at the end of the second Battleworld 2 story was that actually supposed to be Doom getting pissed or just a Doom stand-in by Arcade ?
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Ramadu posted:Hey so uh what ever happened to Stark? Last thing I remember was he was in the shamecube and spiderwoman and black window were walking away from him as he was screaming he was the only one who could save them. Then there was a shot with the other illuminati looking at his broken cube and blood and some metal and a spine were there and everyone was sad. redbackground fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Jun 4, 2015 |
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I caved and read the rest of the tie-ins. Kind of a mistake since the only thing I really enjoyed was Little AvX and Kung-Fu #2. On the bright side we're getting Ghost Racers next week 
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Just looked at the July 1st tie in costs. Around $70. 
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Just cut it down to the ones you're interested in.
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Secret Wars #3 was totally awesome, but I really hope the delays for #4 and #5 are so Ribic can learn how to stop drawing O-faces...
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It's a little weird, I never noticed that problem in his older work. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough.
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Lurdiak posted:It's a little weird, I never noticed that problem in his older work. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough. You weren't because he does that every-loving-where. I find it hilarious every time so I don't mind but it's his go-to face.
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