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In the season finale, in the scene of Caputo and the guards, they tell him he needs them more, was that for a particular reason? the Martha Stewart inmate? The prison maintenance? the buses of new inmates in the end of the episode?
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Jun 21, 2015 21:06
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They're repeating back to him what he told them at their first "union meeting."
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Jun 21, 2015 23:11
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Yeah, I don't think they knew anything different would be going on that day. Turns out, they really could've used a bunch of COs who knew their rear end from a hole in the ground after all. One thing I just noticed is that, at first, I thought Danny wanted to go by his first-name to create a false buddy-buddy feeling while loving Caputo over. After the fact, I'm thinking it's probably because he hates his shitstain father and being called by his last name reminds him of it every time.
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Jun 22, 2015 01:00
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I think they knew. I think one of the guards even amends the "you need us more than we need you" with a "especially today"
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Jun 22, 2015 01:16
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Asiina posted:I think they knew. I think one of the guards even amends the "you need us more than we need you" with a "especially today" The COs, at least Eliqua Maxwell, knew that she was coming in that today. Judy King, or the guy even comments that they "called ahead". Maxwell is usually the CO that does the processing for new inmates.
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Jun 22, 2015 06:48
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You know, I do have to say, Pornstache looks a lot more respectable without the stache, even with the added mullet.
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Jun 22, 2015 07:38
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I keep trying to write down what I really liked about this season, but it always ends up plagued with what I disliked about this season. There are some great moments - Crazy Eyes and Time Humpers, Luschek, Pearson (before the board meeting), likable Pennsatucky, Pornstache's Mom - but it's mostly surrounded by poo poo.
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Jun 22, 2015 22:59
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weaaddar posted:I really hate the song choices they make to end every episode. Like, oh here is some whiny Regina Spektor sounding bullshit, must be the end of the episode. And of course we need one hiphop song too just to make it look like we're diverse. Ending an episode with Les Mis was pretty hilarious though, although we didn't actually get to see their revolution/union crushed this season.
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Jun 23, 2015 00:31
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I would like a Pennsatucky/Big Boo spin off. That was the highlight of a fairly lovely season for me.
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Jun 23, 2015 02:27
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I think it's really impressive how they've dealt with Pennsatucky. It's fairly uncommon that you can turn an antagonist into a person you legitimately feel sorry for. Compared to Game of Throne (S5 spoilers): they sort of did that with Cersei, but only because you want to see Cersei get revenge and then suffer and die. Pennsatucky's just lived a really hosed up life, filled with rape and poverty and whatnot, and she's a legitimately sympathetic character at this point. Certainly, coming from the first season, I would not have expected this, but it doesn't seem contrived either.
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Jun 23, 2015 05:48
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Shima Honnou posted:Marisol comes close since her crime was basically selling printer paper to idiots. Her arrest for "fraud" was hilariously bad. It's as realistic as prosecuting someone for stealing cocaine from a drug dealer i.e. poo poo that basically never happens. I get suspending disbelief, but I wish they could have come up with something a bit more sensible.
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Jun 23, 2015 09:35
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Yudo posted:Her arrest for "fraud" was hilariously bad. That was really dumb, especially because they already can arrest and in-prison you for selling fake drugs.
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Jun 23, 2015 12:51
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Finished the season last night. That was really bad and now i don't care about another season.
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Jun 23, 2015 14:27
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Yudo posted:Her arrest for "fraud" was hilariously bad. It's as realistic as prosecuting someone for stealing cocaine from a drug dealer i.e. poo poo that basically never happens. It was a white kid who died, right? I could easily see them throw the book at her to make an example.
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Jun 23, 2015 16:55
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computer parts posted:It was a white kid who died, right? I could easily see them throw the book at her to make an example. When they arrested her they said he was in critical or something. "Better hope he doesn't die," I think is what they said.
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Jun 23, 2015 17:05
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Marisol could've gotten in on the ground floor of the panty business given her background, but I guess she's so arrogant and prideful the moment she finds out what the 'new job' is a business scam is the last thing on her mind. Speaking of that job, did they ever explain how they were going to resolve inmates making 10x what other inmates earn? Caputo never ended up having to switch inmates that conflicted with each other, another aspect of that subplot that fizzled. Why is Healy so loyal to Caputo? Is Fig still married? I couldn't tell is she was doing her own thing or continued to be married for show. I wonder what Boo got busted for. Something to do with bookkeeping or racketeering?
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Jun 23, 2015 18:44
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Panfilo posted:Is Fig still married? I couldn't tell is she was doing her own thing or continued to be married for show. I'm pretty sure she's married, but her husband is a closet-case.
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Jun 23, 2015 18:50
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Panfilo posted:I wonder what Boo got busted for. Something to do with bookkeeping or racketeering?
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Jun 23, 2015 21:30
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Flagrant Abuse posted:I'm going to go out on a limb and guess assault and battery. Her flashbacks implied it was for illegal gambling
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Jun 23, 2015 22:32
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So we know that Piper's sentence is 15 months, but do we have any sense of how long Alex is (was?) in for? On the one hand she was a much bigger player in the business than Piper, on the other she named associates and then cooperated with the prosecution against the boss. And in the case of Boo, she behaves like someone who has been/will be in prison for the long haul, which seems odd if her crime was illegal bookmaking or whatever.
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Jun 23, 2015 22:37
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Yeah, unless her bookmaking was on a large scale (and considering it seemed like it was just something she done on the side), it probably wasn't even a felony, it'd be a misdemeanor. The worst she'd get is a few thousand dollars fine and a couple of weeks in jail. So I'm assuming, by her flashback, someone said something homophobic and she beat the poo poo out of them.
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Jun 24, 2015 00:21
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ShakeZula posted:So we know that Piper's sentence is 15 months, but do we have any sense of how long Alex is (was?) in for? I don't think they've mentioned it, but the "real" Alex did 6 years for conspiracy to import heroin.
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Jun 24, 2015 00:32
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One thing we can base time off of is how long Daya has been pregnant. Since that gives us 9 months, how long do we expect Piper has been in? Along those lines, I haven't heard mention of any inmate's actual sentence. This makes sense- the writers probably want to keep it open to keep a character relevant later on.
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Jun 24, 2015 00:52
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At the end of season 2 Piper says that she has been there for about 8 months.
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Jun 24, 2015 00:57
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Panfilo posted:One thing we can base time off of is how long Daya has been pregnant. Since that gives us 9 months, how long do we expect Piper has been in? They actually said Daya would get out in 36 months at one point in this season so she has a set timeframe.
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Jun 24, 2015 01:14
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Wasn't there a scene with the latina ladies at one point where some very specific time frames and dates were discussed? Something about hypothetical weddings? I think they were outside?
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Jun 24, 2015 04:33
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cheerfullydrab posted:Wasn't there a scene with the latina ladies at one point where some very specific time frames and dates were discussed? Something about hypothetical weddings? I think they were outside? That was when the 36 months thing came in. But given that it's been 9 months in three seasons, there's another 8 seasons left before Daya gets out.
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Jun 24, 2015 04:36
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It's probably safe to assume that the show will end either after Piper gets released or shortly thereafter, so odds are a majority of the rest of the cast won't actually be released at all before the series ends unless more time gets slapped onto her sentence. It really sucks that of all the characters this is our main one, one of the least interesting and most grating ones. Hopefully they at least do an Animal House at the series finale so we aren't left hanging.
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Jun 24, 2015 04:53
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Shima Honnou posted:It's probably safe to assume that the show will end either after Piper gets released or shortly thereafter, so odds are a majority of the rest of the cast won't actually be released at all before the series ends unless more time gets slapped onto her sentence. It really sucks that of all the characters this is our main one, one of the least interesting and most grating ones. If this is anything like Weeds Piper and any other inmate they want to keep around will get out and do something stupid to wind up in jail again and the show will continue for several more seasons in this manner
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Jun 24, 2015 05:11
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I do wonder if Piper got time added to her sentence for lying about Kubra.
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Jun 24, 2015 05:19
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In the last episode I think Piper says she has at least 8-12 months left
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Jun 24, 2015 05:30
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Inkspot posted:I got major feels for Red and Healey. They have a mutually understood attraction that they begrudgingly agree can't be acted upon. Finally. Some loving adults on this show. "Yes, I am good at my job and I help people. I am a good person. Wait. Wasn't it just a few months ago where I almost let one inmate murder another because she didn't want to be owned by me? Hm not sure."
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Jun 24, 2015 07:36
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Chakron posted:"Yes, I am good at my job and I help people. I am a good person. I think it was Piper he almost let die so yeah I'd say he's a good person, hell, a great person.
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Jun 24, 2015 07:43
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Asiina posted:I do wonder if Piper got time added to her sentence for lying about Kubra. I doubt it. The prosecutors couldn't prove that she was lying, since she just played the "I don't remember, I wasn't really paying attention to the drug stuff" angle. Besides, if she had any time added I feel like it would have been a fairly major story point.
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Jun 24, 2015 08:22
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oatgan posted:If this is anything like Weeds Piper and any other inmate they want to keep around will get out and do something stupid to wind up in jail again and the show will continue for several more seasons in this manner Then Piper will break out of the prison in one season, and then the next season, she'll have to break back in??
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Jun 24, 2015 08:55
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Chakron posted:"Yes, I am good at my job and I help people. I am a good person. God I forgot about that. Feels like it came from an entirely different show at this point
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Jun 24, 2015 10:31
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I never said well-rounded adults. Or, let's use "adult" in this case to mean "someone who doesn't go whole hog with every impulse."
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Jun 24, 2015 13:29
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I was thinking about it today, and the show talks both sides of its mouth on its messaging. Bennett depicted as a terrible coward for shirking duty, but Caputo is shown as a doormat / victim for shouldering his. Norma singing at Christmas was spiritual, but spiritual Norma is a waste of screen time. It's not a show meant to actually have messages, but it's confusingly inconsistent at times.
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Jun 24, 2015 13:58
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moths posted:Bennett depicted as a terrible coward for shirking duty, but Caputo is shown as a doormat / victim for shouldering his. I don't think they're conflicting messages. Bennett is a coward. He let Pornstache take the fall for impregnating Daya. Then he ran out on her and his baby. Caputo is a fool. He took on the responsibility of raising and paying for his girlfriend's baby with his bandmate. While his bandmate continued the gently caress-all life of a musician who happened to make it big.
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moths posted:I was thinking about it today, and the show talks both sides of its mouth on its messaging. Bennett depicted as a terrible coward for shirking duty, but Caputo is shown as a doormat / victim for shouldering his. Norma singing at Christmas was spiritual, but spiritual Norma is a waste of screen time. I kind of liked how the show doesn't tend to lean towards any particular message in that regard, even if that aspect is mostly reached accidentally.
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