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Also, being killed that way seems to break the line at that point based on something ~5 or 6 towns from here.
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The game does address the whole Jessica being a sister to a chosen heir thing, both directly and in a future heir that we meet. That's not going to be for a while though.
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Jul 9, 2015 23:58
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Wouldn't the natural death of the abbott end the bloodline with his celibacy regardless of what Dhoulmagus did?
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Pester posted:Wouldn't the natural death of the abbott end the bloodline with his celibacy regardless of what Dhoulmagus did? Right, but then Dhoulmagus wouldn't get to bust into a church and murder the leader in front of the guys sworn to protect him. I mean, there's efficiency, and then there's style, you know?
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Jul 10, 2015 00:03
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Also, consider this. Imagine you're an evil villain, who would break any oath at the drop of a hat if you found it convenient. Would you trust that the abbot would keep his vow of celibacy (because you wouldn't, in his shoes)? Or would you go and make sure he couldn't father any heirs in the future?
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Pester posted:Wouldn't the natural death of the abbott end the bloodline with his celibacy regardless of what Dhoulmagus did? Hard to say. Could be the Sage spirit gets away without doing the thing to the staff, thus screwing the villain, or it could be the opposite happens, screwing the heroes. Could be the spirit will simply leap to the nearest living relative regardless of how remote. Could be this whole thing is a matter of fate and everything's lining up because it's destined to. The game leaves it up to your imagination since this particular detail is not very important to the plot.
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Edward_Tohr posted:Right, but then Dhoulmagus wouldn't get to bust into a church and murder the leader in front of the guys sworn to protect him. Indeed. While he could have just waited for the old man to kick the bucket. It wouldn't have had the same kind of impact as killing him himself. Also, Dhoulmagus seems like a real hands on kind of guy. I mean he has a magic staff of evil capable of cursing an entire kingdom with the amount of magic it has and yet he stabs people with it. I don't think he'd be able to live with himself if he just let old age take the old man for him.
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Pester posted:Wouldn't the natural death of the abbott end the bloodline with his celibacy regardless of what Dhoulmagus did? Given what we've seen of his evil glowing staff, I assume that actually killing members of the line with it's power somehow feeds it. That is how these sorts of cursed weapons tend to work. OminousEdge posted:Indeed. While he could have just waited for the old man to kick the bucket. It wouldn't have had the same kind of impact as killing him himself. Also, Dhoulmagus seems like a real hands on kind of guy. I mean he has a magic staff of evil capable of cursing an entire kingdom with the amount of magic it has and yet he stabs people with it. I don't think he'd be able to live with himself if he just let old age take the old man for him. This, too. Dhoulmagus seems to be a real hands-on kind of guy. He likes the little touch of personally murdering his victims in unnecessarily cruel ways. Psychologically torturing helpless onlookers is also probably a side benefit.
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Jul 10, 2015 03:17
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He's a jester. Why wouldn't he want to perform for an audience?
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:Hard to say. Could be the Sage spirit gets away without doing the thing to the staff, thus screwing the villain, or it could be the opposite happens, screwing the heroes. Could be the spirit will simply leap to the nearest living relative regardless of how remote. Could be this whole thing is a matter of fate and everything's lining up because it's destined to. The game leaves it up to your imagination since this particular detail is not very important to the plot. It is a bit of a mess, but if you think about it the whole thing is really a fantastic coincidence. All of the dead heirs we've seen so far have conveniently had no children, but having all seven bloodlines conveniently have no descendants stretches the boundary of probability. Well, I suppose we'll see as we go forward... although it would make sense if the sage's power goes to the next child in the bloodline. There'd be a gap, but if Jessica had a child that child would become the Sage, and some relative of the abbot who had a kid would suddenly have that kid become a Sage.
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Actually Angelo is the only character who can equip the Sages' Robe. This conspiracy runs deep. Or it's meaningless coincidence in a game where one can only make a turban out of two bandannas by cooking them.
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Really, it seems that the worst thing that's happening here is a giant ripoff. And that's bad, you know? But not, like, Dhoulmagus evil.
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*prepares screenshots* Finally. This means I'll get another update posted soon! *has cutscene dialogue to transcribe* Let's Play is fake actually. I do have this portrait for a character introduced in it, though. I believe it captures his essence. 
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I do have this portrait for a character introduced in it, though. I believe it captures his essence. Target Practice for Boomerangs/Axes/Bows/Staves?
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You've discovered a new Alchemy recipe. + =
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 *checks clipboard* Looks like this is a JRPG. Better make the church corrupt!  I wondered why he name-dropped those two specifically. Must be something to do with this cutscene link right here.  Utmost Integrity  We're stopped from rummaging in a holy place by a Templar. Where have I heard that one before... Suddenly the door swings open!   "You may be Captain of the Templars, but a man of such humble origins as yourself has no place here! Understood, Marcello? Your continued office as guard is in itself a privilege beyond your station." "As his likely successor, he grants me the occasional special favour." "...Yes. I am aware of that, High Priest Rolo." "And you could never have attained such an esteemed position as Abbot at your age, without my recommendation. You'd do well to remember that!" "Please allow me to deliver a token of my gratitude and devotion to your residence later, High Priest." "You always did have a soft spot for material wealth, didn't you!? But listen to me, Marcello! The Lord High Priest is a scrupulous man of utmost integrity. He won't be won over with such earthly trinkets!"  "Let that be the end of this matter, then! Come now, let's return." Oh yeah the party were there this whole time, staring awkwardly at this thinly-veiled collusion.  "Surely someone of so little faith as you wouldn't trouble himself to make the pilgrimage? Come to ask for the Holy One's help? Or perhaps it's just sight-seeing? Hmph! What a carefree existence you enjoy!"  These are "What the gently caress, man?" ellipses. "...Suit yourself! I'm a busy man. I don't have time to concern myself with you! If you'll excuse me, everyone! Enjoy your little holiday by all means, but I trust you won't forget the other matter of bringing Dhoulmagus to justice!"With that, Marcello leaves. Nothing about that conversation is required, by the way. The next place we have to go to progress the story is... F2 of the inn in Baccarat, if I recall correctly.  Foreshadowing proper nouns are more exciting when they're pirates too.  Guard tower has the best view of the Goddess statue, I think. That arch at the very bottom-center of the screen is the door through which Marcello and Rolo came. It's a big statue.  There's also this other statue, in the horizon. It's also a very important statue.  But first, Angelo's new skill.  It's much better on single targets, as he'll deal 150%-200% of normal damage. It's also a thing to have with Cherub's Arrow on the side to recover MP.  We're a little dinged up from that fight. That's inexcusable.  What we're fighting here ain't no normal monster arena goober. This... this is one of the Big Ones.  We'll let Memento Morrie take a bit of the heat. By which I mean this is a suicide run.  The Crazed Colossus is incredibly powerful.  Like, ridiculously.  He's also incredibly tough.  Thankfully Snap Case figures out what actually works here.  Before expiring, anyway. RIP Snap Case, beloved box.  How I stalked a statue with an exposed nipple and ended up getting beaten up. Now that the party's stuck taking hits, it's really rough. Two hits in a row and the target is doomed.  Also inconvenient is how loving high is his defense again!?  Frizzle at least deals decent damage. This and Wind Sickles are having to do all the work here.  Kabuff takes a lot of the edge off. It and Acceleratle are being flung nearly every turn to make sure they don't wear off.  poo poo! If Angelo got hit before all the Kabuffs were applied, he would be Angelow. On the ground. Because he'd be dead.  Eventually, and by which I mean a good dozen rounds, the Crazed Colossus finally falls.  This is Talos. Talos does two things. Talos hits the enemy, or Talos hits the enemy harder. Talos does not grow with Eight's levels. Talos does not need to grow. Talos has no tricks, no subterfuge, and no subtlety. Talos beats. Talos is a top-tier arena monster and a viable choice for S-rank. Talos is good.  Magic Water is kind of a mixed blessing, since they are used to make Yggdrasil Dews and Elfin Elixirs, but are also easy to get from the casino.  This is a fair upgrade for Eight's boomerangs, but not really worth the Wing of Bat in most cases. It's also more expensive, gold-wise, to make it this early. You can buy it soon enough so it's not a big deal.  So I decide to go up a tier in cheeses.  Free agility ring if your casino luck's been awful. Mercury's Bandanna is still a great helmet for Eight, as this is still any point in DQ8.  With that, that's all we have to do at Neos at the moment.  I end up at Port Prospect to buy a Bandanna for this ring and also because it's a convenient spot from which to sail. The magic boat is magical and follows you wherever you zoom.  Now, I'll go to this tiny island one must use the boat to reach. There are a lot of islands like this all over the world.  Remember Bodkin Bowyers? Did you ever wish they had more HP and attack and could poison? Well here you go!  Besides a ton of chests, there's this Goodybag.  Jewelbag is the opposite of Talos. While Talos only attacks and is extremely good, Jewelbag rarely attacks and is extremely bad.  ...I don't really get some of these treasure chests. Maybe that's why I don't have any idea what's in most of these, because otherwise I'd just not bother to open a lot of them.  Next tier up in cheeses. Eight's boomerang focus precludes use of this cheese. Don't worry, soon we'll have all the tools we'll need to become Cheese Masters.  And this one some-loving-where in the world is 28!   Jessica's still got the Slime Earrings and these offer a fair bit more defense, so there you go.  I wonder what Trode's talking about, though.  With the Magic Key I can open every overworld chest in the game. I'm cleaning those on the eastern continent up.  Wait Jessica what are you wearing  seriously is this real  Okay come on now this is just ridiculous. So, having all three of the bunny ears, the bunny suit, and the fishnet stockings equipped changes Jessica's costume. This is now 3, not counting her default appearance.  This is Little Nipper.  There went Little Nipper.  Little Nipper is Not Good, and that's not just the Talos speaking.  There's a chest behind the Monster Arena. It needs the Magic Key. That's why it took so long to open it. Otherwise I would've popped this one open the first time we ran into the place.  The Pelvic Thruster wanders around the hills near Pickham at night. Thrusting, I presume is how he spends the night.  Multishot still lets Eros' Bow's Fuddle trigger, but the next hit just went and cured it.  Oh at this point I put the Scholar's Specs on Jess to hopefully get Frizzle to scale a little sooner, and because I get it Toriyama you like bunny girls does one have to appear in every piece of media you create!?  Salsa is a Redtail Hipster. Since he's on your side, it's the opposite of the normal dynamic with Hipsters. If he spins viciously, you're happy. If he does not spin viciously, you are not happy. Since he's frail and unreliable you're better off with other monsters.  Sometimes not knowing what's in these chests makes them a wonderful surprise. As of the Angelo Seed of Skill Proposition of 2015 this one goes to Angelo as well, bringing him up to 51. He'd normally hit this total at level 25.  12 herbs into 6 strong medicine into 3 special medicine into this. The Greater Panacea restores all HP and cures poison, paralysis, sleep, and fuddle. These are wonderful to have, especially for Yangus and Jessica who normally don't get fullheal or status-removal spells.  Next time I land on this peninsula, which is now getting far too much hype for what's there. Orange Fluffy Sheep fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Aug 3, 2015 |
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Yessssss, Talos is a straight beast. Also I love how unsubtle they are about "if you haven't figured it out by now, the church is super corrupt."
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Talos can single-handedly carry you to rank A, and beat Rank S with backup. Also I didn't know he was this strong, and he whooped my team when i reached here. Oops.
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DukeofCA posted:Yessssss, Talos is a straight beast. It's literally the medieval era Catholic Church .
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Well I am well and truly terrified.quote:Oh at this point I put the Scholar's Specs on Jess to hopefully get Frizzle to scale a little sooner, and because I get it Toriyama you like bunny girls does one have to appear in every piece of media you create!?
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Edvarius posted:Honestly I'm surprised they haven't shown up as a class you can change into in any of the games that have that mechanic. Of course I guess that would spoil the running gag of the dirty old man who is hoping to do just that. Female Jesters in DQ3 are Bunny Girls.
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I've always beaten Talos by hitting him with Sap and Helm Splitter to get his defense down to a more workable number (that number being 0)
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Aug 3, 2015 18:53
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Dr Pepper posted:Female Jesters in DQ3 are Bunny Girls. also: Performers in Bravely Default
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Aug 3, 2015 18:55
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That's not a Dragon Quest game though. 
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Aug 3, 2015 18:59
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Awww yeah, Talos is one of my favorites, second only to a very special monster you don't actually capture...
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DukeofCA posted:Yessssss, Talos is a straight beast. It is a JRPG and this is a Catholic-style church, so why bother with subtlety when we all know how it has to go.
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Aug 3, 2015 19:48
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Actually pretty much every other DQ game doesn't use this plot point.
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Yeah but they also haven't really... been there aside from being healing and later saving service.
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Aug 3, 2015 19:56
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The previous DQ game was also the one that let you punch God, so Enix was in a highly-experimental phase. DQ9 let you be the divinity, now that I think about it.
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Aug 3, 2015 20:06
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A small scale, local deity. Not literal god-jesus.
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I might be wrong, but I believe Talos can be put to sleep. So you can mitigate some of the damage he does and also give you some breathing room to try any of the high-critical moves to rake in damage.
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Ubiquitous_ posted:I might be wrong, but I believe Talos can be put to sleep. So you can mitigate some of the damage he does and also give you some breathing room to try any of the high-critical moves to rake in damage. Now I'm picturing the party trying to quietly gain tension so they can unleash a bunch of huge attacks while the giant crushing iron golem slumbers peacefully in front of them. I mean, how do you even build rage when all of your enemies are asleep?
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I mean, how do you even build rage when all of your enemies are asleep? Why do you think DBZ had so much filler?
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Raitzeno posted:Why do you think DBZ had so much filler? Because they decided to start airing an anime based on it before Toriyama actually finished his run on the manga.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
Everything after this point in the LP is new to me, because around this point I discovered this by accident and it was the final straw that made me put the game away for good. Just, goddammit Toriyama, keep it in your pants man.
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Aug 4, 2015 01:25
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gently caress yes Talos  That loving statue carried me all the way to S-rank.
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Captain Bravo posted:Everything after this point in the LP is new to me, because around this point I discovered this by accident and it was the final straw that made me put the game away for good. Just, goddammit Toriyama, keep it in your pants man. I seriously wish I had thought of having Bunny Jessica use Intimidate though, that stroke of genius made it hilarious
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Hey, the man knows what he likes and has enough clout to get away with it. That's respectable.
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