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le missing foid
Jul 18, 2015

by Ralp
Peep the price, OP

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PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Pft, their free cash flows are higher than their dividends and their repurchases combined. What are you, some kind of chump?

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy
Technology is bad and technology stocks are worse. Never invest in a single tech stock with money that you care about

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy
Apple watch failed, the spell is broken, apple is hosed, etc.

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005
Stil trading 30 bucks above their 52 week bottom and drat near their high. Nope.

penus penus penus
Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald
stocks r 4 squares

NihilismNow
Aug 31, 2003
Tech stocks are totally not overvalued and you should put your whole portfolio in them, preferably with as much leverage as you can manage.

E: you should probably remortage your house to be able to buy extra tech stocks. NASDAQ 25k, this time it is different.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
thanks op i just put my entire 401k and assorted life savings into 'apl' stock! i'll buy you some champagne when i'm filthy rich

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

Weather proof.
:lol: at anyone who buys individual stocks

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

notZaar posted:

Apple watch failed, the spell is broken, apple is hosed, etc.

A bunch of investor headlines I've glanced across hyped the gently caress out of Apple stock on the assumption that Apple TV (a full TV not the lovely set-top-box that everyone forgets about when they talk about how the industry is waiting on Apple to figure out TV) and their smart watch would come out and be the new hot poo poo that everyone wants and allows Apple to buy more money printing presses. The former is dead and the later is a wet fart right now.

fuccboi
Jan 5, 2004

by zen death robot

Stealthgerbil
Dec 16, 2004


im investing all of my money into taco bell stock

esn2500
Mar 2, 2015

Some asshole told me to get fucked and eat shit so I got fucked and ate shit

Whiskey Sours posted:

:lol: at anyone who buys individual stocks

CarlosTheDwarf
Jun 1, 2001
Up shit creek.
AAPL is terribly undervalued and has been for years. The problem is the company is too drat big, every mutual fund and investor already has their fill of the stock. There's just not enough capital to send the stock where it should be. They make insane amounts of money, compared to say Netflix or Amazon that has piss poor earnings but crazy valuations.

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy

Stealthgerbil posted:

im investing all of my money into taco bell stock

By "stock" I assume you mean "inventory" you taco eating gently caress.

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

CarlosTheDwarf posted:

AAPL is terribly undervalued and has been for years. The problem is the company is too drat big, every mutual fund and investor already has their fill of the stock. There's just not enough capital to send the stock where it should be. They make insane amounts of money, compared to say Netflix or Amazon that has piss poor earnings but crazy valuations.

Investors go gaga over what is crazy and new not a boring company that prints money releasing the same or similar stuff

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

notZaar posted:

By "stock" I assume you mean "inventory" you taco eating gently caress.

You say that like an investment in Tacos for immediate consumption is a bad investment.

Although maybe it is from Taco Bells. Never been there, but the general sector is a solid one.

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy
A solid one is what you won't be experiencing the morning after investing into Taco Bell stock. You will be up to your balls in liquidity.

esn2500
Mar 2, 2015

Some asshole told me to get fucked and eat shit so I got fucked and ate shit

CarlosTheDwarf posted:

AAPL is terribly undervalued and has been for years. The problem is the company is too drat big, every mutual fund and investor already has their fill of the stock. There's just not enough capital to send the stock where it should be. They make insane amounts of money, compared to say Netflix or Amazon that has piss poor earnings but crazy valuations.


WhyteRyce posted:

Investors go gaga over what is crazy and new not a boring company that prints money releasing the same or similar stuff

Fundamental analysis is useless if you decide to buy stock. Whenever you buy it, now or in the future, you will always have a 50/50 shot of making money. Bad idea.

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

I'll take one stock please.

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

esn2500 posted:

Fundamental analysis is useless if you decide to buy stock. Whenever you buy it, now or in the future, you will always have aof getting t of making money. Bad idea.

This is dumb. That's like saying all baseball players have a 50/50 shot of getting on base each at bat.

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005

Cacator posted:

I'll take one stock please.

That will be your life savings sir and/or madam.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Cacator posted:

I'll take one stock please.

Okay here you go.... aaaaand it's gone!

esn2500
Mar 2, 2015

Some asshole told me to get fucked and eat shit so I got fucked and ate shit

Leon Einstein posted:

This is dumb. That's like saying all baseball players have a 50/50 shot of getting on base each at bat.

Do baseball players exist in a huge marketplace with a ton of liquidity? They aren't many baseball players, but a lot of equities being traded. It'd be false to say fundamental analysis is completely useless, but I'm not in that boat. Any stock you buy will always have a profitability of profit of 50%. Always. That isn't to say you have a 50% shot of it being it a successful investment, but 50% chance that you make exactly 1 penny. The problem with stock picking is that no one really knows anything but the news is always filled with buy this sell that etc.

I know this thread is kinda a joke, so I'll have to stop being serious soon i guess

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams
aaaaaaaaand, it's gone.

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005

Mad Monk posted:

aaaaaaaaand, it's gone.

Well, not unless the company folds....It's just your whatever investment is now worth a fraction of a penny. So, there's that.

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams
Just for shits and giggles I bought 10 shares of Sony stock before the PS 4 came out. Bought at $17.35 and it's been up around $32. Now currently a tad above $28. Not bad.

fuck the ROW
Aug 29, 2008

by zen death robot

esn2500 posted:

Do baseball players exist in a huge marketplace with a ton of liquidity? They aren't many baseball players, but a lot of equities being traded. It'd be false to say fundamental analysis is completely useless, but I'm not in that boat. Any stock you buy will always have a profitability of profit of 50%. Always. That isn't to say you have a 50% shot of it being it a successful investment, but 50% chance that you make exactly 1 penny. The problem with stock picking is that no one really knows anything but the news is always filled with buy this sell that etc.

I know this thread is kinda a joke, so I'll have to stop being serious soon i guess

I'm more interested in the boat, is that part of the 50% thing youre talking about or just a regular seperate boat

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy
What's the difference between stock market investing and Vegas style gambling?

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope
Why is their stock symbol AAPL? Apple only has one A in it.

No wonder they're so hosed up.

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005

notZaar posted:

What's the difference between stock market investing and Vegas style gambling?

Over the very long run you have a much, MUCH, MUCH, better chance of making money in the market.

Casino is a sure loss, barring some statistical improbability.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

VendaGoat posted:

Over the very long run you have a much, MUCH, MUCH, better chance of making money in the market.

Casino is a sure loss, barring some statistical improbability.

The statistics trick to winning at the Casinos, is owning the Casino. Then everybody wins!

Everybody being you.

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005

dr_rat posted:

The statistics trick to winning at the Casinos, is owning the Casino. Then everybody wins!

Everybody being you.

And your shareholders...

Unless You're Donald Trump

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

VendaGoat posted:

Over the very long run you have a much, MUCH, MUCH, better chance of making money in the market.

Casino is a sure loss, barring some statistical improbability.

Yeah but they bring you drinks when you gamble

prinneh
Jul 29, 2005
prince of denmark
So what other stocks are good right now? I've maxed out in AAPL and a handful Chinese ones!Thanks, SA

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

esn2500 posted:

That isn't to say you have a 50% shot of it being it a successful investment, but 50% chance that you make exactly 1 penny.

Where are you getting these ideas?

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Leon Einstein posted:

Where are you getting these ideas?

In general, every trade has a 50% chance of working out (meaning you made some profit).

That's just basic investment theory. The rub is can you come up with an investment strategy to beat random chance odds? Most people can't and fundamental analysis (and any analysis really) is shakey as gently caress. It takes a lot of experience to really know what you're doing and even then it's kind of a gamble.

The average person is kind of far removed and is usually just gambling since you're never really directly plugged into the market unless you're with a firm or on the trading floor. When you go to buy a stock you usually get a third party computer buying it and reselling it to you for a slightly higher price in the milliseconds it takes for your order to process. In that way they can make poo poo tons of money on the margin and not have to really do anything.

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jul 22, 2015

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.
50% chance you make exactly a penny is not basic investment theory.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

VendaGoat posted:

And your shareholders...

Unless You're Donald Trump

I am Donald Trump.

AMA.

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esn2500
Mar 2, 2015

Some asshole told me to get fucked and eat shit so I got fucked and ate shit

Leon Einstein posted:

Where are you getting these ideas?

That's the definition of probability of profit my uneducated friend.

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