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I guess I have an Ant-Man av now? Thank you, mystery benefactor  🐜🐜🐜https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpPx7E27Bc8
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Usually these comic movie threads have a lot more arguing, is this one unpopular or something?
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Jul 25, 2015 17:16
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effectual posted:Usually these comic movie threads have a lot more arguing, is this one unpopular or something? What is there to argue about? It was a fun movie, with a few minor issues. Not a bad addition to the MCU. I definitely enjoyed it more than Avengers: AOU
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Jul 25, 2015 17:22
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Tikifire posted:What is there to argue about? It was a fun movie, with a few minor issues. Not a bad addition to the MCU. I definitely enjoyed it more than Avengers: AOU I'm going to see it soon, but to the people that have seen it, do you feel its the "comedy" of the MCU? I keep kind of hearing reviews/thought that the theme Marvel was going for the Ant-man series was more comedic then the more series Avengers, spy thriller Captain America, etc.
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Jul 25, 2015 19:17
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BexGu posted:I'm going to see it soon, but to the people that have seen it, do you feel its the "comedy" of the MCU? I keep kind of hearing reviews/thought that the theme Marvel was going for the Ant-man series was more comedic then the more series Avengers, spy thriller Captain America, etc. It's pretty similar tonally to Guardians.
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Jul 25, 2015 19:41
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TheJoker138 posted:It's pretty similar tonally to Guardians. Nah I'd disagree with that. Ant Man's tone is more like a kid friendly stoner comedy.
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Jul 25, 2015 19:44
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effectual posted:Usually these comic movie threads have a lot more arguing, is this one unpopular or something? I dunno, I feel it's an obscure character and it's a unexpectedly good movie, personally I went in with low expectations expecting great visuals and comic book action and it delivered vastly more than I thought it would.
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Jul 25, 2015 19:54
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effectual posted:Usually these comic movie threads have a lot more arguing, is this one unpopular or something? Most of the people who hate marvel films have segregated themselves into their own thread, and there isn't much to argue about with Ant-Man. Also SMG hasn't posted an absurd reading yet, prolly getting ready for Suicide Squad. Comedy Answer: anyone who would argue over Ant-Man is currently too embarassed over being wrong about their marvel Doom predictions a third time.
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Jul 25, 2015 20:37
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One thing I liked about this film was how Scott didn't win his ex-wife back or whatever, or that her new husband didn't turn into a supervillain himself, but rather a large part of Scott's arc was learning to accept Bobby Cannavale as a valid part of his daughter's life. I know people have made this pun before, but the smaller cope of this film really helped keep it a little more fresh in comparison to some of the other Marvel films.
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Jul 25, 2015 20:41
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i totally agree.Neurolimal posted:Most of the people who hate marvel films have segregated themselves into their own thread, and there isn't much to argue about with Ant-Man. Also SMG hasn't posted an absurd reading yet, prolly getting ready for Suicide Squad.
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Jul 25, 2015 21:38
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Raxivace posted:One thing I liked about this film was how Scott didn't win his ex-wife back or whatever, or that her new husband didn't turn into a supervillain himself, but rather a large part of Scott's arc was learning to accept Bobby Cannavale as a valid part of his daughter's life. I hadn't ever managed to articulate that point, but very much yes, I did like that it wasn't a storybook ending for Scott's family.
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Jul 25, 2015 22:02
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Let's all be glad that Marvel doesn't have the rights to the F4 so we don't have to worry about Dr. Doom showing up and murdering Scott's daughter in a terrible storyline.
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Jul 25, 2015 22:54
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TheJoker138 posted:Let's all be glad that Marvel doesn't have the rights to the F4 so we don't have to worry about Dr. Doom showing up and murdering Scott's daughter in a terrible storyline. I severely doubt anything like that would fly in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Even in the comics it was basically undone, if I am remembering correctly.
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Jul 25, 2015 23:08
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effectual posted:Usually these comic movie threads have a lot more arguing, is this one unpopular or something? I guess that's one of the downsides of not being so tied in to the cinematic universe as a whole, you don't get the huge amounts of  that come from people trying to figure out how it will effect the canon or where it ties into Avengers 3: The Ghost Dimension or whatever. It was just a fun and funny movie.
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Jul 25, 2015 23:22
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Just saw the movie last night and thought it was pretty good, but it got me wondering about the influence that Marvel/Disney are bound to have on the filmmakers to ensure that the products feel like MCU material. At times I was trying to picture a lost Edgar Wright version and could see how it might not fit into stylistic format that Marvel has on lock now. Especially now that the whole universe is established, I hope there's some more variation in tones and styles in future films. Cohesion is great and all but once we get to 20+ movies, I feel like it's going to get suffocating.
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Jul 25, 2015 23:22
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Question about some speculation from earlier in the thread: Someone said that the Quantum Realm stuff might tie in to the Doctor Strange movie, but Strange is all about magic, right? What connection am I missing?
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Jul 25, 2015 23:45
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effectual posted:i totally agree. They cloned him.
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Jul 25, 2015 23:47
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WarLocke posted:Question about some speculation from earlier in the thread: Considering what the average person knows about Quantum Physics, it might as well be magic?
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Jul 25, 2015 23:49
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Away all Goats posted:Considering what the average person knows about Quantum Physics, it might as well be magic? Yeah, the statements from Feige seemed to me much more Look at all this weird and wacky stuff; Dr. Strange messes with these forces all the time" and less "His magic is based on quantum mechanics explicitly"
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Jul 25, 2015 23:51
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jivjov posted:Yeah, the statements from Feige seemed to me much more Look at all this weird and wacky stuff; Dr. Strange messes with these forces all the time" and less "His magic is based on quantum mechanics explicitly" Oh, so they're gonna make Strange just another tech dude like everything else in the MCU I guess...  VVV: I think maybe my thinkmeat wasn't/isn't working properly and I misread that post of yours. 
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Jul 25, 2015 23:57
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WarLocke posted:Oh, so they're gonna make Strange just another tech dude like everything else in the MCU I guess... Huh? I don't think anything about tech was mentioned.
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Jul 25, 2015 23:59
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effectual posted:Usually these comic movie threads have a lot more arguing, is this one unpopular or something?
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Jul 26, 2015 00:11
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Baron Bifford posted:There were no glaring flaws in this movie. That's not to say it's a masterpiece of cinema, it just has no serious warts the way AoU has. Give it a week or two. Then goons will start to hate it.
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Jul 26, 2015 00:12
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In cinema, quantum physics is not a real academic discipline or scientific model, but is instead a code word for magic.
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Jul 26, 2015 00:12
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Bongo Bill posted:In cinema, quantum physics is not a real academic discipline or scientific model, but is instead a code word for magic. http://youtu.be/lS9D6w1GzGY
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Jul 26, 2015 00:25
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WarLocke posted:Give it a week or two. Then goons will start to hate it. That's a lot longer honeymoon than anything else in the mcu so far.
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Jul 26, 2015 02:38
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jivjov posted:Yeah, the statements from Feige seemed to me much more Look at all this weird and wacky stuff; Dr. Strange messes with these forces all the time" and less "His magic is based on quantum mechanics explicitly" It's all about alternate dimensions more than anything. Strange's powerset isn't being hosed with at least.
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Jul 26, 2015 02:42
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Bongo Bill posted:In cinema, quantum physics is not a real academic discipline or scientific model, but is instead a code word for magic. Professor Farnsworth posted:”As Deepak Chopra taught us, quantum physics means anything can happen at any time for no reason! Also that animals have never had a war. Who's the real animal?
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Jul 26, 2015 02:51
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Yeah I'm pretty sure Feige means that Dr. Strange is going to get into alternate dimensions even more and completely mess with the current perceptions of space-time.
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Jul 26, 2015 03:16
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Reset Smith posted:I severely doubt anything like that would fly in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Even in the comics it was basically undone, if I am remembering correctly. It was. Scott's revenge on Doom was really well done in Matt Fraction's FF storyline, but the Ant Man movie makes her too valuable to keep dead. Ten years ago, Scott Lang was considered expendable enough to get blown up with little fanfare.
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Jul 26, 2015 03:41
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Saw the movie this evening, enjoyed it pretty well. Not one of the great MCU movies in my opinion, but a fun evening. Michael Douglas stole the show for me as a crotchety old retired superhero who can still teach his new protege a thing or two about punching bad guys in the face. Lang's support crew was funny if vaguely racist, and everyone else including Rudd felt serviceable but unremarkable. Never thought I'd feel bad over the death of an ant in a comic book movie, and I'm happy the movie hit the breaks on the stepdad being an rear end in a top hat before the end. Something I appreciated about the movie's pacing that I haven't seen anyone comment on, Lang's fight with Falcon nicely foreshadowed the Yellowjacket fight and how Lang defeated him in the end. Up against a guy in a form of powered armor, shrink to get at the control circuitry and power source from the inside.
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Jul 26, 2015 04:01
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Ensign_Ricky posted:...says the guy who just advocated selling superweapons to actual Nazis. This is from a few pages back (and I just got back from Ant Man, loved it) but umm.... you know Jet Jaguar is a real thing in the Godzilla series? It's not MST3K (even tho they rightfully make fun of it).
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Jul 26, 2015 04:02
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One bit of foreshadowing I liked: So he gets out of the quantum realm by plugging in one of those grow-discs to his belt, right? Except that was actually the second disc he pulled out, he lost his grip on the first one and it went sailing away. So there's a convenient way to bring the Wasp back eventually, if time is wonky there just say she got a hold of the disc and did the same thing, bam. It even holds up internally because the discs were introduced as a recent invention, so she wouldn't have had any to use that way during the missile thing in '87. Also I found the prospect of the daughter keeping the giant ant as a pet way too funny. Man, that's one hosed-up dog...
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Jul 26, 2015 04:18
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I liked the Falcon fight and know it was for pacing purposes but it would have been kinda fun if he ran into Vision who gave him a look and waved him on through.
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Jul 26, 2015 07:08
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Vintersorg posted:This is from a few pages back (and I just got back from Ant Man, loved it) but umm.... you know Jet Jaguar is a real thing in the Godzilla series? It's not MST3K (even tho they rightfully make fun of it). ...No, I live in a cave. I was referring to the PUNCH! PUNCH! PUNCH! part.
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Jul 26, 2015 07:13
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I know.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jbj8lLspac
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Jul 26, 2015 07:57
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What was the reference joke? I don't remember
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Jul 26, 2015 09:14
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I was very pleasantly surprised by this movie, I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. Also was the CGI/de-aging used for the opening scene with Michael Douglas REALLY good or am I just easily impressed?
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Jul 26, 2015 11:51
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Jerusalem posted:I was very pleasantly surprised by this movie, I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. It was pretty impressive and they were smart about not dwelling on it for too long to make the flaws stand out. It's kinda scary, it won't be many years before that tech is completely unnoticeable. Just compare this to Jeff Bridges in Tron 2.
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I think the de-aged Bridges looks weird as gently caress, but as Clu? I think it works. It looks unsettling and off...but Clu isn't a human.
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