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SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST

C-Euro posted:

Man this LP has me jonesing to play some Pokemon again, I got a free download code for X when I first got my 3DS but only made it just past not-Paris before losing interest. I played the gently caress out of Platinum though, maybe when Monster Hunter releases its grip on me I will get back to the other kind of monster hunting.

Games I Want/ed to Replay:
Gen I (after this LP)
Gen II
Gen IV (but only the remakes of Gen II)

Games That I Feel Content with One Go:
Gen III
Gen VI (the remakes of III)
Gen V (both the originals and their sequels). Granted I've played through Black 3 times. Twice with Tepig and once with Oshawott.

Games That I Struggled to Finish Once:
Gen IV
Gen VI

How on Earth did you get a free download for X?

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KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Crosspeice posted:

The guy who wrote it probably asked his kid what this Pokeymans thing was about and of course they had TONS of secrets and tips they heard from their friends. What a scoop!

The thought that maybe one of the thousands of kids who claimed "Their Uncle worked at Nintendo" were actually legit is terrifying.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

SonicRulez posted:

How on Earth did you get a free download for X?

When I bought my 3DS there was a promo of "buy & register one of these four Nintendo games and get a free X/Y download code!" since the game had just come out. I bought my system new-in-box from a goon and he had an extra valid registration, so he threw it in to sweeten the deal (thanks, whoever you were!)

As for Pokeymans, I was at peak Pokemon age for Gen 1 so I played that, then helped my little brother get through Gen 2. Then like a decade later I acquired a DS that happened to have copies of Emerald & Platinum in it, never played Emerald other than to transfer legendaries to Platinum but I played the hell out of Platinum and loved it. That was also the only time I ever came up with a cool nickname for a Pokemon (my starter Infernape named Kong-Bak :3:)

E: poo poo that would've been a good name for that Mankey. Oh well.

Zonekeeper
Oct 27, 2007



C-Euro posted:

When I bought my 3DS there was a promo of "buy & register one of these four Nintendo games and get a free X/Y download code!" since the game had just come out. I bought my system new-in-box from a goon and he had an extra valid registration, so he threw it in to sweeten the deal (thanks, whoever you were!)

I got my copy of X through the same promotion (which incidentally puts a wrench in my eventual goal of having physical copies of every mainline Pokemon release - I'll have to repurchase X to complete the collection.)

Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

Update 12: Rock Tunnel Yay



Time to enter the-



Pikachu seems to have a tree up its butt.



Sure why not.



So what many, many people hit you over the head with is that Rock Tunnel is dark. It is still manageable though, you can still see the outline of the area and this place is very linear, so you can go through it pretty easily.



But that's not really good for an LP. I can and have gone through this place without Flash, but if you have a spare slot, might as well.



Now it's just a normal cave full of trainers. But no items, weirdly enough.



Headbutt (Zutsiki) is an okay Normal move that has a chance to flinch, which causes you to lose a turn. But flinching only works if you're faster then the target.



Oh baby. This is a move you should avoid in these games. We'll see what it does in a moment.



#079: Slowpoke



Yeah, this place is real boring.



Just empty spaces until the next trainer. Mt. Moon was kinda like that as well, but there were other places to go and items incentivized going down other paths. Here, there's only one way to really do and the rest are just dead ends, but I suppose it means you can make it through this place if you don't know about Flash, since it is out of the way.

"will fight you."

~Trainers~



There we go. PERFECT.

"are too scary."



Oh yeah, the Poison effect. It's annoying.



I'm sorry, the internet has scarred me over people like that. I will never recover...

"POKEMON for fun."

Yeah...

"leave you crying!"

Moving on to, what else, more trainers.

"technician!"

"rock-type POKEMON."

Yep, all one of them. Which you have. Many of.



New Pokemon at least! But nothing can replace Wukong.





Well, if you say so.



So, Focus Energy (Kiaidame: Fighting Spirit Improvement) is bugged. Instead of increasing your critical hit ratio, it quarters it.



So now Karate Chop doesn't always crit, instead having the same chance as a normal move. Woo.

"yours, kid!"

Yes. Let us rematch in future.



Just more trainers with the same old Pokemon.



Least there's usually a Machop to break up the Geodude.



These are weirdly fun to see.



#057: Primeape

It's one after another for bad, baaaaaad moves. We'll try it soon enough.

"squeeze on you!"

If you're lucky enough to find it, it is quite rare.





More trainers. I think we're about halfway done with the cave.

"Which way is out?"



Yep. This fun, full of laughs detour.

"me some respect!"

Pfft, please, you're like all the other Hikers...



#075: Graveler

Oh thank god you're not.



I'm hiking my way out of here.



Fascinating.



Person after person just standing in this dark cave.



Time to show off Wukong's new power.



And see some "new" moves that aren't different to ones we've seen before. Defense Curl (Marukunaru: Curl Up) is exactly the same as Harden, except different distribution. Woo.

"thinking!"

Well I've got the move for you! Rage (Ikari) is a very, very bad, weak Normal move. We'll see the crazy effects of it very soon.

"I want one too!"



Pikachu likes getting confused, annoyingly.

"I have it?"

Sure.



There's two floors to Rock Tunnel and Onix can be found with a higher chance in the lower floor. Hard to touch, hard to find, hard to catch and hard to use.



Yeah...



"the dark!"

Now we can avoid Pokemon just in time for the final section! And a restraining order...



Excuses, excuses.



Are you sure it wasn't a Machop you saw? ;)



So, let's talk about Rage. When you select it, that's it, you are stuck in that move until the end of the match, or your health. It starts off weak, buuut...



If you take damage, your Attack raises a stage. But for Rage to do a lot of damage, you need to get hit around 3/4 times. You can see why this move is terrible.



When you face weak Pokemon though, you can annihilate them pretty easily.



Also, you only lose 1PP even if you attack like 20 times. This move is really weird.



Ah, the last trainer, thank god.



Man, this place is boring.



Finally, the exit.

"tough hike."

We're not done just yet! Still got the rest of Route 10.



And all the trainers contained within.



: There should be a pink one with a floral pattern!

I-I don't know what you're talking about. Nothing like that exists.



Mad scientist hiker?

"Snort! Snivel!"

I feel ya buddy.



An item, I'd forgotten what those were like.



So long as it's a new one, sure.



No. Just too slow.



Yes. No.



He sees the light (walking is hard)



COLOUR!


Lavender Town: The Noble Purple Town
(From lavender, a pale purple colour)
Shion Town: Shion is the color of purple nobility.
(Shion iro refers to the colour of Aster tataricus flowers, which, in the language of flowers, means "I won't forget you.")

So let's see what this lovely town is about.



:stare:

Okayyyyyyy. Lavender Town is a weird place full of misery and weird occurrences. And a huge tower containing graves of dead Pokemon. You know, for kids!



In any case, we will never need Flash again. You only (kinda) need it for the one dungeon and since we've beaten all the trainers and caught all the Pokemon there, we have no reason to ever go back.

"Where'd he go?"



: He's really kind! He looks after abandoned and orphaned POKEMON!"

O-Oh... cool. Learning all this heart-wrenching info from small, cheerful girls does ease the pain somewhat.



What? No way, they're not real.

"it's not real."

?!



...did you see anything?



...okay then.



One good thing about this town is we get some really cool stuff from Marts from now on. Of course Revive is first sold here...

"NAME RATER!"

: Want me to rate the nicknames of your POKEMON?

Nah.

: Fine! Come anytime you like!

Sorry mate, you're been replaced by a program.



: That poor CUBONE's mother... It was killed trying to escape from TEAM ROCKET!



It's not this Cubone is it? God, this place is depressing.



Okay, let's go into a graveyard. I'm n-not s-s-scared. Uh, you're scared!

Crosspeice fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Aug 20, 2015

SystemLogoff
Feb 19, 2011

End Session?

The town that launched a thousand badly made creepy stories.

I heard that the music could drive you crazy, that's why it's different in the remakes!!

That's nothing, I heard if you bring a Cuebone Mother traded from gold you get attacked by ghosts!!!

Ben Drowned!-- er I mean, Pokemon Ghost Black, OoooOo.

Silegna
Aug 20, 2013

Hey, heads up. I'm about to unleash my rage.

SystemLogoff posted:

The town that launched a thousand badly made creepy stories.

I heard that the music could drive you crazy, that's why it's different in the remakes!!

That's nothing, I heard if you bring a Cuebone Mother traded from gold you get attacked by ghosts!!!

Ben Drowned!-- er I mean, Pokemon Ghost Black, OoooOo.


You forgot White Hand and Buried Alive. Man gen 1 had some poo poo creepypastas. Though some did get decent romhacks, like Black.

SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

You say that like there's such a thing as a good creepypasta. "You know thing? Thing is actually scary thing! Oooooo~"

E: Also we clearly need to name our Onix SolidSnake

Sorites
Sep 10, 2012

The only good creepy theory about Lavender town won't come up until the next Rival battle. But that one's pretty good.

---

Is there any NPC around where you first find Munna that complains about all the pink floral Pokémon, and wishes for a chunkier one? It sounds like the kind of crowbarred-in callback the modern Pokémon Company would do.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Crosspeice posted:

(From lavender, a pale purple colour, while shion iro refers to the colour of Aster tataricus flowers, the name meaning "I won't forget you.")
It totally doesn't. It means something to the effect of "purple garden" or "purple park".

Zomblified
Feb 17, 2011

Guess what? You got it for free! Are you proud of yourself?

SystemLogoff posted:

The town that launched a thousand badly made creepy stories.

I heard that the music could drive you crazy, that's why it's different in the remakes!!

That's nothing, I heard if you bring a Cuebone Mother traded from gold you get attacked by ghosts!!!

Ben Drowned!-- er I mean, Pokemon Ghost Black, OoooOo.

Not the exactly the thousands of bad creepy pastas but these are the rumors I remember the best.

Watch out, if you spend more than x hours in the tower your starter gets taken away by ghosts~~~!!
If you black out too many times in the tower your game save gets deleted!
There was even a kid in my school who would also ask people if they wanted to see a "COOL TRICK" in the Pokemon Tower, would save in there, reset your file, and blame it on the spooky ghosts. gently caress you, Liam.



The gambler coming up soon is the last chance to do the Mew glitch, right?

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Fun fact, in the awesome Pokemon Origins OVA, the "do you believe in ghosts" conversation appears...including the white hand. It's really hard to see, but it's a great detail.

What I'm saying is that Origins is great and you should watch it if you haven't.

Black Balloon
Dec 28, 2008

The literal grumpiest



FractalSandwich posted:

It totally doesn't. It means something to the effect of "purple garden" or "purple park".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aster_tataricus

Zomblified
Feb 17, 2011

Guess what? You got it for free! Are you proud of yourself?


Hanakotoba =/= Japanese
(Neither of them were wrong, really.)

Zonekeeper
Oct 27, 2007



In the end, all the cities are named after colors, though the Japanese names mostly come from nature and tend to have a lot more symbolism. (My favorite is Celadon City's Japanese meaning - looking it up, it fits the city's "personality" perfectly.)

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
Nobody is talking about the language of flowers. "I won't forget you" isn't what the name "shion" means, full stop.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug
Don't worry baby pokemon, we'll find the ghost of your dead mom and use them to murder team rocket... This isn't very helpful is it?

My only exposure to Creepypasta is some random "shrug and accept friend request from some random shooter" person asking me for insights in how to make one, out of nowhere because literally my only interaction with them prior had been "I wasn't a dick in an internet shootey mans game".

They had no idea who Jason Voorhees was or what Crystal Lake was :argh: :corsair:

Section Z fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Jul 29, 2015

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

Sorites posted:

The only good creepy theory about Lavender town won't come up until the next Rival battle. But that one's pretty good.

---

Is there any NPC around where you first find Munna that complains about all the pink floral Pokémon, and wishes for a chunkier one? It sounds like the kind of crowbarred-in callback the modern Pokémon Company would do.

But is there any reason why that happened? The only other rival to change his mons was N from Black. :confused:

Black Balloon
Dec 28, 2008

The literal grumpiest



FractalSandwich posted:

Nobody is talking about the language of flowers. "I won't forget you" isn't what the name "shion" means, full stop.

I'm pretty sure that was exactly what Crosspeice was talking about though. He's not talking about the meaning of shion. He's talking about the significance of the flower itself. I mean if we want to get technical the name itself is latin and means turkish star or some poo poo (someone who actually cares about latin can correct me).

Black Balloon fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Jul 29, 2015

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

Darth TNT posted:

But is there any reason why that happened? The only other rival to change his mons was N from Black. :confused:

Probably Gamefreak just wanted to change his team so players wouldn't get bored by seeing the same lineup of dudes, Generatiion 1 after all, it was wild and wacky then.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
I don't remember, was the whole "there's part of the song in Lavender town parts adult ears aren't accustomed to hearing, so children hear more of the song" bullshit or an actual thing? I lean on the bullshit part considering the limits of GB hardware, but I dunno, I've heard so many terrible variations of creepy pastas that they all blend together with facts at times.

Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

FractalSandwich posted:

Nobody is talking about the language of flowers. "I won't forget you" isn't what the name "shion" means, full stop.

I was referring to the flowers, sorry that I didn't make it clear.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




Mordaedil posted:

I don't remember, was the whole "there's part of the song in Lavender town parts adult ears aren't accustomed to hearing, so children hear more of the song" bullshit or an actual thing? I lean on the bullshit part considering the limits of GB hardware, but I dunno, I've heard so many terrible variations of creepy pastas that they all blend together with facts at times.

that sounds like bullshit since musical instruments are designed with our limited hearing range in mind. Now, maybe the whole "mosquito/tv-on sound" can be heard in Lavender Town's theme but it would likely be incidental because the composer likely wouldn't be able to compose a melody or a line based around that sound.


I dunno, is this all that creepy pastas are? Just people making up random poo poo and seeing how many people fall for it? Is this the "ghost stories" of our generation?

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

Aces High posted:

I dunno, is this all that creepy pastas are? Just people making up random poo poo and seeing how many people fall for it? Is this the "ghost stories" of our generation?

Nail on the head, its just people trying to trick people into being scared of a haunted video game cartridge or some glitch that isn't just an error but a Demon Lord who infiltrated the game world, or whatever.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Crosspeice posted:

I was referring to the flowers, sorry that I didn't make it clear.
All good. If I seem terse it's not because you misspoke.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

On the original black and whitegreen and yellow gameboy, the Rock Tunnel without flash would be pitch dark. You couldn't see where the walls were at all. No way I could get through that without Flash as a kid.

It must be confusing for Japanese kids to discuss Nintendo games.
"What do you think about Gorons?"
"Do you mean the Pokemon or the Zelda species?"

Carbon dioxide fucked around with this message at 10:44 on Jul 29, 2015

Zonekeeper
Oct 27, 2007



Carbon dioxide posted:

On the original black and whitegreen and yellow gameboy, the Rock Tunnel without flash would be pitch dark. You couldn't see where the walls were at all. No way I could get through that without Flash as a kid.

Yeah, you could only really cheat it if you had a (then) brand new Gameboy Pocket. The old guard had to deal with a screen that didn't have enough contrast to make the borders out no matter how much you fiddled with the wheel on the side.

(I'd say the screen was more of a yellow-green - it's often described as "pea soup".)

Pittsburgh Lambic
Feb 16, 2011
I seem to recall that the pokemaniacs were all dressed up as eevees in LeafGreen. :ughh:

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

I stabbed you dude!
My favorite creepy Pokemon story was about a guy who loaded his file and his only Pokemon was a ghost (not Ghastly, a ghost) that knew Curse and that was it.

Silegna
Aug 20, 2013

Hey, heads up. I'm about to unleash my rage.

Rabbi Raccoon posted:

My favorite creepy Pokemon story was about a guy who loaded his file and his only Pokemon was a ghost (not Ghastly, a ghost) that knew Curse and that was it.

That'd be creepy black. Got a pretty decent romhack. The curse killed instead of KOd.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

I stabbed you dude!
Yeah, that was it. Wasn't exactly scary or creepy, but I enjoyed reading it.

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe
On the subject of dumb kid tricks, I remember a kid in this after-school group thing I went to said he had a Clefairy (in-game) but Team Rocket stole it. He also called Pewter city "Brock city" and Cerulean city "Misty city".

Zomblified
Feb 17, 2011

Guess what? You got it for free! Are you proud of yourself?

Violet_Sky posted:

On the subject of dumb kid tricks, I remember a kid in this after-school group thing I went to said he had a Clefairy (in-game) but Team Rocket stole it. He also called Pewter city "Brock city" and Cerulean city "Misty city".
I hope the towns without gyms he just named after his favourite npc in that town.

hopeandjoy
Nov 28, 2014



Mordaedil posted:

I don't remember, was the whole "there's part of the song in Lavender town parts adult ears aren't accustomed to hearing, so children hear more of the song" bullshit or an actual thing? I lean on the bullshit part considering the limits of GB hardware, but I dunno, I've heard so many terrible variations of creepy pastas that they all blend together with facts at times.

Yeah, it's bullshit. The GB's speakers couldn't produce those frequencies. Also, how would the adult composer hear it as he made it?

Roro
Oct 9, 2012

HOO'S HEAD GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND?

Pittsburgh Lambic posted:

I seem to recall that the pokemaniacs were all dressed up as eevees in LeafGreen. :ughh:

You remember wrong. They've always dressed up as a lovely Charizard, a green Rhydon or some nerd in a cape.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Zomblified posted:

I hope the towns without gyms he just named after his favourite npc in that town.

Fat Science Guy Town
Marowak Killer Town
Gate Guard League

Works for me.

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.
Man, I wish we'd been able to name Mankey, Dial M.

That theme always plays in my head whenever my Infernape does anything.

In that vein, can we name Machop, The Machop Man, RndySavage

Natural 20 fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Jul 30, 2015

Aesclepia
Dec 5, 2013
Next verse same as the first.
I second SolidSnake for the Onix.

I always wanted them to be better than they are. I kept trying to use them and then ditching them to the box as deadweight.

You should name the Gastly Pootington

Spatula City
Oct 21, 2010

LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING
honestly Pokemon Tower was pretty terrifying for little kids. That music is still super-unnerving.

Relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C33rduF6FWo

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Fionordequester
Dec 27, 2012

Actually, I respectfully disagree with you there. For as obviously flawed as this game is, there ARE a lot of really good things about it. The presentation and atmosphere, for example, are the most immediate things. No other Yu-Gi-Oh game goes out of the way to really make

Spatula City posted:

honestly Pokemon Tower was pretty terrifying for little kids. That music is still super-unnerving.

Ok, first off, that music link? Absolutely hilarious. But yeah, if anyone new to this game thinks this is bad, just wait till you get into the Pokemon Tower. I'm STILL, to this day, amazed at the stuff that somehow got past the censors in there, especially considering how strict Nintendo usually was with their localizations.

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