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cat doter posted:I had a vague idea of all that stuff, but my biggest problem with it is that, well, it's not really shown. Or talked about (other than in mgs4's ending I think?) so the main thrust of the conflict in the phantom pain is based on events that no one ever sees and is never talked about explicitly. It's dumb. Yeah, it is kinda dumb. I'd guess that maybe it's an attempt to make sure the POOPS and PW stories don't require knowledge of the other games, in order to appeal to newcomers? Then again TPP is leaning hard on the series lore, but maybe Kojima/Konami is OK with that because it's a numbered entry in the series.
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Aug 6, 2015 01:41
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The gamescom trailer made it look like Skullface was the primary villain. I thought he wanted to go after zero though?
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Aug 6, 2015 01:41
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Aug 6, 2015 01:42
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Fargin Icehole posted:The gamescom trailer made it look like Skullface was the primary villain. I thought he wanted to go after zero though? Yup, that's why he was interrogating Paz in GZ. The answer is probably that Kojima wants to keep any plot with regard to Zero a surprise, but a villain is needed for marketing.
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Aug 6, 2015 01:43
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I wonder if we'll meet the rest of the old Snake Eater gang in person along with Zero. Para-Medic/Dr. Clarke is still alive in 1984, right?
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Aug 6, 2015 01:45
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Most of the poo poo with Zero is terribly written. It just comes off as really strained and the fact that we are told about much of this poo poo and not shown it just makes it seem really sloppy.
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Aug 6, 2015 01:47
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Funky Valentine posted:I wonder if we'll meet the rest of the old Snake Eater gang in person along with Zero. Para-Medic/Dr. Clarke is still alive in 1984, right? Yeah, she still has to build Cyborg Ninja. That's after 1997.
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blackguy32 posted:Most of the poo poo with Zero is terribly written. It just comes off as really strained and the fact that we are told about much of this poo poo and not shown it just makes it seem really sloppy. On THe Other Hand, Kojima Is A Great Writer
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Aug 6, 2015 01:52
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Fargin Icehole posted:The gamescom trailer made it look like Skullface was the primary villain. I thought he wanted to go after zero though? He is a really evil man and killed all of Snakes friends, blew up his home, blew up the hospital where he was staying, and he loves rape.
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Aug 6, 2015 01:54
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blackguy32 posted:Most of the poo poo with Zero is terribly written. It just comes off as really strained and the fact that we are told about much of this poo poo and not shown it just makes it seem really sloppy. Im gonna leave your rear end hole strained and sloppy.
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Aug 6, 2015 01:55
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acksplode posted:Yup, that's why he was interrogating Paz in GZ. The answer is probably that Kojima wants to keep any plot with regard to Zero a surprise, but a villain is needed for marketing. It's weird because he is technically out for revenge against both Zero and Big Boss. Skull Face is working for Cipher during GZ - kidnapping Paz and Chico is meant to get Big Boss out of Mother Base so that XOF can blow it up. But at the same time, he is interrogating Paz to find out where Zero is. The fact that the TPP trailers show him hanging out with Big Boss might indicate that he's doing the same thing; pretending to work for / ally with Big Boss against Zero, while also trying to get his revenge on Big Boss. We know that Skull Face is the leader of the Parasite Unit that wipes out Kaz's squad and captures him, but we also see him checking out the new Metal Gear and hanging out on Mother Base, so there's definitely going to be a weird relationship there.
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Aug 6, 2015 01:56
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This weird hate triangle between Big Boss, Skull Face, and Zero, and the fact that we don't really know what Skull Face's role in the plot is, and the fact that we know nothing about how Zero will factor in at all, are a few things that get me excited about Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. Extremely dang loving excited.
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Aug 6, 2015 02:00
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blackguy32 posted:Most of the poo poo with Zero is terribly written. It just comes off as really strained and the fact that we are told about much of this poo poo and not shown it just makes it seem really sloppy.
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blackguy32 posted:Most of the poo poo with Zero is terribly written. It just comes off as really strained and the fact that we are told about much of this poo poo and not shown it just makes it seem really sloppy. The thing i never understood was why/when was zero so into the boss. Yeah she is the greatest soldier ever but when did he even learn about her ideals for a better world and stuff. did he listen in when she told snake. the easy answer is snake told him, but he doesnt seem like the type who would talk about that kind of stuff(considering he didn't even when he was tortured in PW.) so what gives.
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acksplode posted:On THe Other Hand, Kojima Is A Great Writer I mean, yeah. Obviously the man making Bowie references is totally a really Evil guy. (Even though Space Odditty came out in '69, you have to remember... Video Game.) Paranoid Dude fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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blackguy32 posted:Most of the poo poo with Zero is terribly written. It just comes off as really strained and the fact that we are told about much of this poo poo and not shown it just makes it seem really sloppy. I've played MGS2, 3, 4, and ac!d, and I'm still not positive that Zero actually exists in mgs lore.
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Aug 6, 2015 02:03
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a cop posted:I've played MGS2, 3, 4, and ac!d, and I'm still not positive that Zero actually exists in mgs lore.
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Aug 6, 2015 02:09
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Yeah ultimately if all my questions and confusions are answered (ie foxhound, LET, zero's shenanigans, big boss's role in the patriots) in the phantom pain then I won't have anything to complain about, but up until this point the plot between zero and big boss is neither shown nor told, and it's pretty loving sloppy.
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Aug 6, 2015 02:10
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Skull Face is working for Cipher during GZ - kidnapping Paz and Chico is meant to get Big Boss out of Mother Base so that XOF can blow it up. Wouldn't Big Boss just have died alongside everyone else if he was still at Mother Base? He's awesome and all but they were expecting an inspection, not an attack, so I'm not sure what he could've done to prevent that slaughter.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:We know that Skull Face is the leader of the Parasite Unit that wipes out Kaz's squad and captures him, but we also see him checking out the new Metal Gear and hanging out on Mother Base, so there's definitely going to be a weird relationship there. That relationship had better end with or primarily be about blowtorching his groin until he dies. That or insert other overt torture in it's place, if there's any opportunity at any time to kill him, he's getting it and I'm dumping him in a landfill afterwards. If he has any terrible or maybe even sad past, it'll be good to laugh about afterwards. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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acksplode posted:This weird hate triangle between Big Boss, Skull Face, and Zero, and the fact that we don't really know what Skull Face's role in the plot is, and the fact that we know nothing about how Zero will factor in at all, are a few things that get me excited about Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. Extremely dang loving excited. I used to be like this, and then MGS4 ruined me. But maybe some more effort will be put into this.
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acksplode posted:This weird hate triangle between Big Boss, Skull Face, and Zero, and the fact that we don't really know what Skull Face's role in the plot is, and the fact that we know nothing about how Zero will factor in at all, are a few things that get me excited about Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. Extremely dang loving excited. Nobody likes anybody in this game. Kaz hates literally everyone except Big Boss. Everybody seems to hate Quiet (the person, not Quiet the pair of boobs). At least Ocelot and Kaz hate Huey. It's just a game of grudgey, uncomfortable alliances.
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blackguy32 posted:I used to be like this, and then MGS4 ruined me. But maybe some more effort will be put into this. It looks like any effort was put in, so that's a good sign.
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croutonZA posted:Wouldn't Big Boss just have died alongside everyone else if he was still at Mother Base? He's awesome and all but they were expecting an inspection, not an attack, so I'm not sure what he could've done to prevent that slaughter. Big Boss had to get lured away because he refused the "UN" (XOF) inspection team access to Mother Base. When he goes to Camp Omega, Huey lets them in after hiding ZEKE, which is what lets them slip past the defenses and blow Mother Base up. This is likely why we see Huey getting tortured in the trailer - he is basically the one to blame for the attack, since he goes against BB's orders and lets them in, and they probably think he is a spy. Also I mean it is Big Boss, so yeah we are probably meant to assume that if he was there he would have totally hosed them up. It's kind of like how we just have to accept that BB was able to subdue Quiet even though she can turn invisible and survive 200-foot falls and run like Sonic the Hedgehog and snipe a jet fighter pilot through the canopy. He's just the best there is.
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blackguy32 posted:I used to be like this, and then MGS4 ruined me. But maybe some more effort will be put into this. The trick is to enjoy the badness, the overwrought dialogue, the overcomplicated plot, the self-indulgent presentation, much as you'd learn to enjoy the flaws in your best friend, who is human, and must be appreciated as such.
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Yardbomb posted:That relationship had better end with or primarily be about blowtorching his groin until he dies. You're the type of person Kojima is making this game about.. lol.
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Kaz, mad with grief and in a foaming rage: "Boss! You have to melt Skull Face's crotch with a blow torch! He DID this to us! He took everything! MELT HIS DICK!"
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net cafe scandal posted:Kaz, mad with grief and in a foaming rage: "Boss! You have to melt Skull Face's crotch with a blow torch! He DID this to us! He took everything! MELT HIS DICK!" Hahaha
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Aug 6, 2015 02:19
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No greater good, no just cause, singe his balls
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Aug 6, 2015 02:19
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Paranoid Dude posted:It looks like any effort was put in, so that's a good sign.
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Look Sir Droids posted:Nobody likes anybody in this game. Kaz hates literally everyone except Big Boss. Everybody seems to hate Quiet (the person, not Quiet the pair of boobs). At least Ocelot and Kaz hate Huey. Ocelot likes Big Boss. Ocelot likes Big Boss.
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Aug 6, 2015 02:22
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 So wait, certain cutscenes are different if Big Boss is all bloody? I wonder how much time they spent just adding content that you only see if you're all bloody and stinky.
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Aug 6, 2015 02:23
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net cafe scandal posted:Kaz, mad with grief and in a foaming rage: "Boss! You have to melt Skull Face's crotch with a blow torch! He DID this to us! He took everything! MELT HIS DICK!" We cooked him like some god damned Vittles!!!
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Aug 6, 2015 02:24
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I thought it was how many loving bodies you decided to shoot and mangle in the name of revenge in that particular mission.
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Slate Action posted:
I think he just means that you'll be covered with whatever blood and dirt you've accumulated during cutscenes.
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Slate Action posted:
I think he's just saying that if you are covered in blood, it will show up in the cutscenes too, since it is all rendered in real-time. Same with how the cutscenes can be light / dark / raining / etc. based on time of day and weather conditions.
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Also you'll be wearing your chicken hat during cutscenes if you suck.
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Aug 6, 2015 02:26
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Or maybe you get covered in blood during a cutscene and it stays on you afterwards
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acksplode posted:Also you'll be wearing your chicken hat during cutscenes if you suck. Gonna style my way through the whole game as Bloodchicken Boss
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