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Samfucius posted:This is why jokephase bugs me a bit sometimes, especially in big games. People who show up late have to make a bunch of empty posts like this or else they're gonna look like lurkers, especially when looking only at post counts. Explain how players providing content by giving opinions on other players is a bad thing, especially on D1.
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Lumpen posted:More relevant: why would you whitenoise shitpost meaningless self-referential WIFOM that does nothing to contribute to hunting Scum, and resist putting any votes on the record? Lumpen I am a spooky ghost, this is my nature.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:21
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Rarity posted:Explain how players providing content by giving opinions on other players is a bad thing, especially on D1. Trying rhymes with lying. Lying is for scum.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:21
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merk posted:Jokes, friend. Jokes. ##unvote ##unvote ##vote merk Why unvote if it's a joke, why care if he presses you on a meaningless joke vote, why wouldn't you try to use your vote in a meaningful way when he started to interact with you over it and FINALLY why are you being personable in a game of mafia? I know the answer, friends, I do.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:22
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:$$ You want me to engage in setup spec on D1? As much as I like setup spec, it's pretty baseless on D1 when there isn't any info available.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:31
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It's the only time you can acceptably do it in lieu of content
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Aug 18, 2015 19:35
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Rarity posted:Explain how players providing content by giving opinions on other players is a bad thing, especially on D1. Content would be great. "This post is good" is not content.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:41
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Samfucius posted:Content would be great. So would you say That post was bad?
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Aug 18, 2015 19:41
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Fee deedly Dee fee deely da! *plays merry tune on ghostly lute*
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Aug 18, 2015 19:42
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It was certainly worthless.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:42
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:##unvote ##vote merk I didn't think he got it.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:45
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Samfucius posted:Content would be great. It's a positive read on a player, an extra connection that can be used once one of us flips. Creating those is what D1 is all about.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:47
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:It's the only time you can acceptably do it in lieu of content Yeah but D1 speculation is more likely to lead town in the wrong direction because there is nothing to base the speculation on. The only thing I'd really speculate on during D1 is the likely number of scum based on the amount of players in the game. In this case, probably 3 or 4 scum and possibly an SK. But again, that's just a guess.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:48
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Samfu you seem really opposed to any sort of content today.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:49
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TMMadman posted:Yeah but D1 speculation is more likely to lead town in the wrong direction because there is nothing to base the speculation on. Assuming just a scumteam, it's probably five scum. If there's an SK, then four. Of course, there's almost certainly ~weirdness~ happening, because Ecco game.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:51
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ljtrigirl posted:Actually, there are pretty much 0 worlds where I support lynching him today. How do we know what the pearl does if we instakill the beholder? This is an overly serious reaction to a very jokey post from Hal. Later on she claims that she understands jokephase so why does she react the way she does here? It could be supporting a scum buddy as I already mentioned, it could be she knows the pearl is bad for town. That's all speculation though, my main issue with this post is that I don't see it as a towny way of thinking. If Sam's the scummiest then he should be lynched, pearl or no pearl. This reaction says that ltrigirl is judging the lynch target by a different metric. ljtrigirl posted:I can tell from your avatar that your head is not empty. Oh hey, it's the traditional Attacking Meinberg Case(TM). We all know Meinberg, we know what he's like on D1, he's such an easy target on D1 cause he's such an awkward poster. I think ljtrigirl's just looking for the easiest target here and doesn't realise that we understand him. ljtrigirl posted:Dangit. I'm trying to be all easygoing this game. Already been mentioned but backpeddling ljtrigirl posted:I can be a bit..... assertive? I'm trying not to be so much anymore. idk. Self control is one of those things that I lack. This is her making excuses for her playstyle, it's a very defensive move made out of desire to survive. ##vote ljtrigirl
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Aug 18, 2015 19:53
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Rarity is postin' good. *strums another merry tune*
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Aug 18, 2015 19:54
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TMMadman posted:Yeah but D1 speculation is more likely to lead town in the wrong direction because there is nothing to base the speculation on. Anything is likely to lead town in the wrong direction. We have zero information so the chances are we're lynching town today. It seems like you're trying to make excuses to avoid getting lynched for something that got you lynched in the past. CCKeane posted:Rarity is postin' good. Sorry, I hear posts like these are pretty worthless
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Aug 18, 2015 19:57
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EXAKT Science posted:Assuming just a scumteam, it's probably five scum. If there's an SK, then four. Of course, there's almost certainly ~weirdness~ happening, because Ecco game. Yeah, this being an Ecco game means it's even harder to do D1 setup spec. I've never played one before, but I did read most of the Lady Clarent game from a month or so ago, so I know weirdness is a think in Ecco games.
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Aug 18, 2015 19:59
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Rarity posted:This is an overly serious reaction to a very jokey post from Hal. Later on she claims that she understands jokephase so why does she react the way she does here? It could be supporting a scum buddy as I already mentioned, it could be she knows the pearl is bad for town. That's all speculation though, my main issue with this post is that I don't see it as a towny way of thinking. If Sam's the scummiest then he should be lynched, pearl or no pearl. This reaction says that ltrigirl is judging the lynch target by a different metric. What seems strange to me is the backpedaling is immediate, within the same minute. If the backpedaling had been over a longer time, it would make sense to have been a possible reconsideration. Instead, it appears there was a change of heart but the two posts so close timing-wise makes it feel like it was a conscious effort to garner some light town cred.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:01
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Rarity posted:Anything is likely to lead town in the wrong direction. We have zero information so the chances are we're lynching town today. It seems like you're trying to make excuses to avoid getting lynched for something that got you lynched in the past. Actually, I didn't get lynched for it but I got a lot of frustrated people yelling at me for setup spec, so I'm a little hesitant to do it on D1 with no real info. If I'm alive in a few days I'll be more than happy to delve back into it with more info.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:01
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As much as I hate the shitposting Keane is doing, I think Rarity's case is decent and EXAKT brought up a good point earlier about manufactured sincerity. ##unvote ##vote ljtrigirl
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Aug 18, 2015 20:03
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I think Rarity may be trying to protect ltj
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Aug 18, 2015 20:04
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Kashuno posted:As much as I hate the shitposting Keane is doing, I think Rarity's case is decent and EXAKT brought up a good point earlier about manufactured sincerity. *takes out a musical saw, plays a spooky ghostily tune* Now this is interesting. This is a pretty quick back off and attachment to another posted case. The reason cited is a case that another posted, which allows for spreading the blame and pinning a vote on another player. How dreadfully scummy!
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Aug 18, 2015 20:05
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:I think Rarity may be trying to protect ltj How so?
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Aug 18, 2015 20:06
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merk posted:I didn't think he got it. Does this mean I didn't get it or that GUISSEPPE didn't get it?
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Aug 18, 2015 20:06
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Guys I HAVE to shitpost. If I don't shitpost scum might take me out early, which, as a powerful town role, would be terrible.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:06
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TMMadman posted:Does this mean I didn't get it or that GUISSEPPE didn't get it? Oh, I "get" it.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:07
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Guys, I am in a conference call and have to pee very badly. Help.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:09
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merk posted:Guys, I am in a conference call and have to pee very badly. Help. Coffee cup.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:09
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CCKeane posted:*takes out a musical saw, plays a spooky ghostily tune* Not really. My case on you is literally "I hate his posting and it's giving me scum vibes," which is not a case that is A) solid or B) going to convince anyone. Meanwhile, the LJ case is one that people can build off of and examine more thoroughly, and is also more likely to elicit a response that can be interpreted and acted on rather than your whitenoise shitposts.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:10
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If I do decide to case ljt later in this game please remember that Rarity's case makes her scummier not townier and that my case exists outside of hers tia
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Aug 18, 2015 20:11
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:Oh, I "get" it. You get that merk is scum? I'm not following any of this and it feels like some kind of secret language.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:13
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Kashuno posted:Not really. My case on you is literally "I hate his posting and it's giving me scum vibes," which is not a case that is A) solid or B) going to convince anyone. Meanwhile, the LJ case is one that people can build off of and examine more thoroughly, and is also more likely to elicit a response that can be interpreted and acted on rather than your whitenoise shitposts. I don't know, I think my ghostly and spooky postings have elicted quite the reaction! *plucks a ghostly lyre*
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Aug 18, 2015 20:14
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TMMadman posted:Well I don't know about mayor, but I've seen Ecco use a governor in his last game. Mayor and governor could be used interchangeably for the purposes of role naming. Governor changes a lynch, Mayor has double vote. Totally different things.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:17
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merk posted:Guys, I am in a conference call and have to pee very badly. Help. Just pee on the floor. You don't have to clean it up.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:17
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Lumpen posted:Everyone that Ecco responded to in the thread is probably Town. The posts are taken as sincere and by engaging with them on that basis Ecco, as Mod who knows all the roles, implies that they are Town. I believe Ecco would respond in a ScumDoc for idle chatter to and chat idly about the game with Scum players, rather than posting in-thread. Blech. It seems like Ecco is a good mod from what I've heard. I do not like this post. I do not like clearing a handful of people for it.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:18
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Rarity posted:If I'm reading diqnol right I'm guessing it's the strong early defence of Sam that would be a strong connection if one of you ends up flipping scum I mean, do you disagree with it? Lynching the person that's holding the pearl without finding out what it does doesn't make any sense to me.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:20
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ljtrigirl posted:Governor changes a lynch, Mayor has double vote. Totally different things. It's possible to switch names or powers around. Just because something is often named one way doesn't mean that it can't be changed for flavor purposes.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:20
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Rarity posted:Where do you normally play your mafia? BGG. We call it Werewolf there.
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