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NigelsPoppet posted:You all act like you wouldn't do the same thing I wouldn't do it.
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fakiebeanplant posted:capitalist equivalent of a checkmate. medicaid, the largest provider of healthcare in the US, will eat the difference in price and develop a massive deficit. so technically shkreli was correct that most poor ppl would still get the medicine, he is just part of making the system unsustainable in the future and why america pays twice as much as any other nation per citizen on healthcare and thats without having anything close to a universal system nice
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kindermord posted:wait a minute why doesn't cuba or north korea or another glorious socialist paradise make this cat-cootie killer medicine and give it away to the world for free to demonstrate the superiority of communism cuba has a promising cancer treatment that they do in fact give away for free. it could all be hype though. too early to tell really. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/14/cuba-lung-cancer-vaccine_n_7267518.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CimaVax-EGF
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kindermord posted:wait a minute why doesn't cuba or north korea or another glorious socialist paradise make this cat-cootie killer medicine and give it away to the world for free to demonstrate the superiority of communism If you're wondering why you don't hear so much about drugs developed in Cuba or North Korea, its because deregulating the price of certain medications does actually drive research to an extent. If you're wondering why they don't make copycat pills, it's because that's a really difficult thing to do.
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i suppose the fact that he does stuff like that is the reason why he's so rich and successful at 31
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fakiebeanplant posted:capitalist equivalent of a checkmate. medicaid, the largest provider of healthcare in the US, will eat the difference in price and develop a massive deficit. he isn't smart.
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Necc0 posted:he was also careful to place the cost of treatment as roughly equal to state of the art cancer treatments because he knew that was the upper ceiling the market could bear. He's a League of Legends player, so not even metaphorically.
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Serious post, it is absolutely staggering that we allow drug patents on essential medications, especially when so much of the research is publically financed. Especially things like PReP, it's the result of billions of dollars in publicly financed research, it's been proven effective, it should be given out like candy along with Hep C, HIV, Diabetes, etc medications. Any cheap to produce medication for serious chronic disease with serious public and human health costs should be cheap as hell and readily available.
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Three Olives posted:Serious post, it is absolutely staggering that we allow drug patents on essential medications, especially when so much of the research is publically financed. full communism now
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Sep 23, 2015 04:32
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TEAYCHES posted:full communism now As long as some pigs are more equal than others.
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Sep 23, 2015 04:34
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Three Olives posted:As long as some pigs are more equal than others. you should read some other george orwell, noted marxist
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Sep 23, 2015 04:49
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/drug-ceo-will-lower-price-daraprim-after-outrage-n431926 Coincidentally, just after the  stump speech. 
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i cant wait until hillary becomes overlord supreme of the toxoplasmotic hivemind.
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Sep 23, 2015 05:53
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Necc0 posted:me not reading thread thanks brah. now i know how to exactly direct my impotent rage
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circ dick soleil posted:i cant wait until hillary becomes overlord supreme of the toxoplasmotic hivemind. crazy cat lady demographic
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Sep 23, 2015 06:41
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i'm up to my eyeballs in cat poop and poz loads so i'm very happy to hear that our LoL poopsocker has reconsidered
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Sep 23, 2015 06:41
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the guy looks like the dennis kucinich of drug company executives
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Sep 23, 2015 06:42
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mdm posted:the guy looks like the dennis kucinich of drug company executives power bottom twink and yea he probably is hiv+ which makes this whole debacle all the more hosed up, he probably gets off on it
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Maybe Best Pope will put a curse on him, and all pharmaceutical CEOs
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My Q-Face posted:http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/drug-ceo-will-lower-price-daraprim-after-outrage-n431926 wow listen to this poo poo try and play himself up as some kind of sympathetic company head rather than the money mongering poo poo he is
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My Q-Face posted:http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/drug-ceo-will-lower-price-daraprim-after-outrage-n431926 "Yea sorry, that price point was too high, I will reprice it so the drug will only cost $500 now. Thanks for your time"
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they played around with a canadian program for awhile and at one point Congress gave FDA/HHS the authority to establish a program but they have declined to exercise that authority over and over because we need a "closed system" and we can't trust just any foreigner but hey if your ingredients/excipients are pig guts from china that's ok, bc those things are in a foreign country and not our area and you know, pharmbros gotta save on costs, to pass it on to the consumer, and by that i mean pass on some deep vein thrombosis, whoops, i knew better than to trust those chinamen i think the authority may still be rotting away unused like arm veins
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peanut posted:Maybe Best Pope will put a curse on him, and all pharmaceutical CEOs sorry growing irrelgiosity means tha tnow the pope has o power in america, along with most othe rmoral authorities beyond the will of the mob. capitalism has tricked you into killing another of its enemies. owned
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Fonzarelli posted:i suppose the fact that he does stuff like that is the reason why he's so rich and successful at 31 There are people who say this and actually believe that it makes poo poo like this OK and good America has some powerful propaganda
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bigger companies get away with worse for longer. This retard is going to get creamed (and he'll deserve it), but poo poo like this will always happen until we move to single payer
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Ambrose Burnside posted:its been fun watching the hardline libertarians try that angle and having the entire rest of civilized society go "what is wrong with your brain that made you say that thing" you would think hard line liberatarians would be against the very concept of patents, as a government sponsored monopoly its not very free market
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So how long until one of the actual pharmaceutical companies make an analogue and change just enough that this product becomes irrelevant?
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Sep 23, 2015 15:41
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probably a very long time, since hte original is only sold to a handful of people
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www posted:
Gonna get me some spicy aids, jam these pills up my poz hole and make a fortune in America!
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Sep 23, 2015 16:12
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 shkreli wrote this but he means well guys he means well HE MEANS WELL
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Sep 23, 2015 16:44
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AIDS will be a poor person disease in a few decades.
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Denim Dude posted:cuba has a promising cancer treatment that they do in fact give away for free. it could all be hype though. too early to tell really. err wow holy loving poo poo
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TEAYCHES posted:thats super illegal yes I figured as much but I was more asking is there like a legitimate explanation for why we couldn't buy medicine from other first world countries with regulated food/drug industry or is it a pretty clear case of internal lobbying for less competition.
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ArbitraryC posted:I figured as much but I was more asking is there like a legitimate explanation for why we couldn't buy medicine from other first world countries with regulated food/drug industry or is it a pretty clear case of internal lobbying for less competition. you will go to federal pmita prison
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Rutibex posted:you would think hard line liberatarians would be against the very concept of patents, as a government sponsored monopoly its not very free market libertarians are against patents when it's convenient, and for them when it is convenient. they have no ideology beyond being worms who serve the masters
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Why does everybody assume that insurance companies will be paying full price for this pill? That's not how insurance works. For example... Doctor performs some procedure on you, charges your insurance company $750. Insurance company says "gently caress you, we're not paying that, we'll give you $400!" Doctor says "Okay, we'll take $400". The whole health care system in this country is hosed. It's based on a system of only getting top dollar if you ask for it. If a medication costs $300, but insurance would pay up to $500, you lost $200. Now you cannot charge that insurance company more than $300 because you have a history of charging $300. Better off charging $750 and have insurance talk you down to a more reasonable amount. Don't have insurance? We'll offer you a 90% cash discount! gently caress you health care system, if you just charged my insurance company what everything really costs we wouldn't have such expensive insurance in the first place. This AIDS pill guy is a huge rear end in a top hat that deserves to rot in hell, but every loving doctor and hospital in this country does the exact same poo poo but doesn't get called out on their bullshit because they are not idiots to raise the price of stuff by 5000%
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ArbitraryC posted:I figured as much but I was more asking is there like a legitimate explanation for why we couldn't buy medicine from other first world countries with regulated food/drug industry or is it a pretty clear case of internal lobbying for less competition. pharma lobbying, yes, is the answer
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Astro7x posted:Why does everybody assume that insurance companies will be paying full price for this pill? That's not how insurance works. medicare is required by law to not negotiate and has to pay full asking price
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Kill all the cats, toxoplasmosis problem gone
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