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Kikka
Feb 10, 2010

I POST STUPID STUFF ABOUT DOCTOR WHO

MrL_JaKiri posted:

When did they not

when it's been atom scrambling/dispersal

i wonder if there's now hierarchies of daleks. the awesome power ranger daleks get to go to planet superbeachparty for a doctor hunt, while a rory killing mission is composed of the dalek that gets a domeful of icy slush from a vent, one that needs a big ugly satellite dish and the one that had trouble counting rels

Kikka fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Sep 26, 2015

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Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Nice rant but a weird mishmash of old and new tech is an established part of the war on Skaro.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Dabir posted:

Nice rant but a weird mishmash of old and new tech is an established part of the war on Skaro.

loving Moffat reaching back in time and putting his hacky writing into Genesis of the Daleks.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
The main character can change to a new actor when he gets killed. jesus. Classic Moffat rear end-pull.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
Time Travel is super unrealistic, but I guess that's just par the course with Moffat.

Kikka
Feb 10, 2010

I POST STUPID STUFF ABOUT DOCTOR WHO
someone smarter than me should try to explain if theres any symbolical/analytical reason to use those hand things. if there isn't any the only reasons are "pun" and "something to .gif".

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Kikka posted:

someone smarter than me should try to explain if theres any symbolical/analytical reason to use those hand things. if there isn't any the only reasons are "pun" and "something to .gif".

They're something unique and a bit frightening for small children. You know, Doctor Who :shrug:.

Kikka
Feb 10, 2010

I POST STUPID STUFF ABOUT DOCTOR WHO
pending titles:

sum-machine gun (shoots numbers)
byplane (goes by very fast)
glandship (disgusting)
trench carfare (mad max)
gatling nun (rosary beads for ammo)
mortar (its actually a bowl with a stick that you grind things up with haha)

ps. i dont like doctor who anymore because it is different. i am scared of it

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Kikka posted:

someone smarter than me should try to explain if theres any symbolical/analytical reason to use those hand things. if there isn't any the only reasons are "pun" and "something to .gif".

Possibly evil hands pulling you into darkness could be a literalisation of Davros trying to make the Doctor turn evil but that seems a bit of a stretch.

E: oh, or actually, the Doctor abandoned Young Davros to be pulled into darkness, the disembodied hands symbolising that there was no specific will behind how Davros turned out, the only will involved was the Doctor choosing to not save him. Also they're creepy.

2house2fly fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Sep 26, 2015

Kikka
Feb 10, 2010

I POST STUPID STUFF ABOUT DOCTOR WHO
ah i didnt even consider the function of the things. this is the pivotal point that pulls davros into darkness. the doctor is his possible salvation.

Turmoil
Jun 27, 2000

Forum Veteran


Young Urchin

Dabir posted:

Nice rant but a weird mishmash of old and new tech is an established part of the war on Skaro.

I think the thing that annoys me the most is the it is the Daleks. Moffat can't come up with anything new and keeps revisiting and re-writing old characters.
He's like a comic who told a few funny jokes, but then keeps repeating variations of the same jokes over and over again until everyone is sick to death of them.

cargohills
Apr 18, 2014

Yeah, Moffat really shouldn't have brought them back so much during the 80s. And what's with this "Doctor" character in every episode? Get some new ideas you Scottish bastard

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
Is the Terry Nation Estate stuff actually true because if so then the Daleks are the last villains you should complain about revisiting.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Dabir posted:

Nice rant but a weird mishmash of old and new tech is an established part of the war on Skaro.

I couldn't actually read his rants because most of them became this self parodying self trolling white noise bullshit, but there was one problem I had with the way the war was shown.

Davros, as far as I could imagine, was a very old man in Genesis. A very twisted, old man who had lived for a very long time. By the time of Genesis, his present, they were JUST starting to degrade to the point of using muskets and simple fire arms, maybe arrows were found on the battlefield though for the life of me I don't recall any.

How in the world did some poor schlub get stuck with a *REALLY* primitive bow and arrow back when Davros was a child? That's way too early to be resorting to literal stone age weaponry.

It's not a major point of the episode and it doesn't bug me too much, but it is annoying. I also wish the Skaro planes weren't literally bi-planes but at least they didn't reuse the spit fires from Victory.

Kikka
Feb 10, 2010

I POST STUPID STUFF ABOUT DOCTOR WHO
A machinegun probably wouldn't have worked for the scene. The bow shows the futility of a retaliatory attack better, and establishes that this guy is a good guy because he's against the odds but decides not to attack anyway. With a gun people would just be wondering "why didn't he shoot the plane?"

Although I agree, literally giving him just a bow and arrow is pretty funny.

Dr. Gene Dango MD
May 20, 2010

Fuck them other cats I'm running with my own wolfpack

Keep fronting like youse a thug and get ya dome pushed back
I watched the first few episodes of Genesis today and Harry had a line about how they'll be using bows and arrows soon, so I think it's a reference to the classic episode. And it's an obvious way to show the watcher the technological disparity. A bit hamfisted though.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



computer parts posted:

Is the Terry Nation Estate stuff actually true because if so then the Daleks are the last villains you should complain about revisiting.

Funny you should ask. This was just posted earlier today

Moff at the Radio Times Festival posted:

Moffat denied an ancient fan rumour that there was a contractual duty to include the Daleks in each series of Doctor Who. "My mother in law was Terry Nation's agent when he created the Daleks. Believe me there is no such clause in the contract".

Croatoan
Jun 24, 2005

I am inevitable.
ROBBLE GROBBLE
Genesis was really rad but I still can't get over how stupid the mutated attacking clams were.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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The hands of the dead reaching up to drag a child into a grave is a pretty straightforward call for the cyclical nature of war and hate. Linking them to landmines is both a multi-pun and pulls in the idea that the land itself is hostile, the war can persist beyond the deaths of everyone in it.

Kikka
Feb 10, 2010

I POST STUPID STUFF ABOUT DOCTOR WHO

Croatoan posted:

Genesis was really rad but I still can't get over how stupid the mutated attacking clams were.

Man now I wish kid Davros got attacked by mutant clams

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Croatoan posted:

Genesis was really rad but I still can't get over how stupid the mutated attacking clams were.

You mean Clam Drones?

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Kikka posted:

mortar (its actually a bowl with a stick that you grind things up with haha)

Mortars were named after mortars of "pestle and mortar" fame because of their shape so well done I guess?

Stabbatical
Sep 15, 2011

Davros1 posted:

Funny you should ask. This was just posted earlier today

Moff at the Radio Times Festival posted:

Moffat denied an ancient fan rumour that there was a contractual duty to include the Daleks in each series of Doctor Who. "My mother in law was Terry Nation's agent when he created the Daleks. Believe me there is no such clause in the contract".

Wait, really? How many degrees of separation are there between most of the big names in Doctor Who? I didn't think British showbiz could be that small.

Also, the visual design of the hand mines, with their one prominent eye, probably also relates symbolically to Davros' becoming a dick as an adult.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Wait, what. The internet (tardis wiki) says that the Doctor's buddy in the medieval castle was only turned into a Dalek eyestalk puppet by one of the snakes during the tank scene while the doctor was being distracted by the rest of the colony. I didn't catch that at all, I thought the dude was an eyestalk guy to begin with.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Carbon dioxide posted:

Wait, what. The internet (tardis wiki) says that the Doctor's buddy in the medieval castle was only turned into a Dalek eyestalk puppet by one of the snakes during the tank scene while the doctor was being distracted by the rest of the colony. I didn't catch that at all, I thought the dude was an eyestalk guy to begin with.

Yeah I thought the Daleks was just spying on him the whole time. I guess it doesn't really make sense since Davros is actively looking for the Doctor.

I doubt it will be mentioned again though.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

computer parts posted:

Yeah I thought the Daleks was just spying on him the whole time. I guess it doesn't really make sense since Davros is actively looking for the Doctor.

I doubt it will be mentioned again though.

Davros != Daleks. They're not on speaking terms, remember. The nicest thing that can be said about them is that the Daleks can't bring themselves to kill Davros. Anymore.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




computer parts posted:

I guess it doesn't really make sense since Davros is actively looking for the Doctor.

I figured Davros had been 'whatever, let him have his last day, it's part of him coming willingly' whilst being ready if he resisted.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

Stabbatical posted:

Also, the visual design of the hand mines, with their one prominent eye, probably also relates symbolically to Davros' becoming a dick as an adult.

Davros, a future dick is attacked by hand dicks, The Doctor, a giant dick, throws him his dick but then dicks off in his dick machine-er time machine.

Guys! I think I discovered a theme!

Chairman Mao fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Sep 26, 2015

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
Vaginas?

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Plant-based and likely extinct thanks to the Sixth Doctor.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.
At first I thought Kikka's idea about analyzing the symbology of this episode was dumb but now I'm kinda getting into it.

When Clara finally catches up with The Doctor he's riding a giant dick while loudly playing with his dick, he's taught the crowd to talk like dicks and is subsequently attacked by a cabal of dicks. The scene ends with a dick growing out of a human face.

Like, this isn't even delving into the phallic nature of airplanes or the Dalek ball city.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
The sonic screwdriver unquestionably represents a dick, see Day Of The Doctor when they compared them. So the Doctor giving his screwdriver to Davros represents his shame at what he's done, throwing away his manhood, as well as being a commentary on the paedophilia scandal that has forever tainted the British entertainment industry.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

2house2fly posted:

The sonic screwdriver unquestionably represents a dick, see Day Of The Doctor when they compared them. So the Doctor giving his screwdriver to Davros represents his shame at what he's done, throwing away his manhood, as well as being a commentary on the paedophilia scandal that has forever tainted the British entertainment industry.

Well now I'm seeing this moment in a whole new light.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Carbon dioxide posted:

Wait, what. The internet (tardis wiki) says that the Doctor's buddy in the medieval castle was only turned into a Dalek eyestalk puppet by one of the snakes during the tank scene while the doctor was being distracted by the rest of the colony. I didn't catch that at all, I thought the dude was an eyestalk guy to begin with.

That dude is getting throttled or bitten by a snake in that scene when the Doctor thinks he swallowed a marble. I guess he could have been "infected" at that point, I just assumed that he'd been a Dalek-plant all along but then I guess that wouldn't make sense as to why Colony was slithering around the galaxy trying to find him.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Huge shock guys, turns out the Master didn't die!

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


It's nice that they resolve what we already knew was complete horseshit right from the off, though.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Ahahahahaha, oh Doctor :allears:

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
The episode is going to have to really suck to bring me down from the Master pushing Clara in the hole.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Michelle Gomez continues to own bones.

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Oh my God that is horrifying :gonk:

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