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Why is this thread now about loving Finland Why are there so many Finns on SA
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Sep 26, 2015 16:19
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hackbunny posted:Why is this thread now about loving Finland They don't like leaving the house and/or talking to people. They are obsessed with themselves and think the rest of the world also cares disproportionally about their frozen country of like 2 million people that deny they're actually russians
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Sep 26, 2015 16:24
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Let's make a deal: Finland can take in 0 refugees in exchange for their internet being blocked off from the rest of the world so we don't have to hear from them.
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Sep 26, 2015 16:26
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Somebody posted a story/link in GBS that refugees arriving in Finland were leaving because it was too cold and boring?
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Sep 26, 2015 16:27
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Yeah, don't have it to hand but it was on Yahoo News. They said that no-one leaves their houses and there's no cafes and restaurants, so it's boring as poo poo.
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Sep 26, 2015 16:28
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Overpaid Neanderthal Jeremy Clarkson wanted Britain's driver test to emulate Finland's because they all drift and do crazy things and then you realize it's like 300 of them max in any given decade that do motor sport and nobody's actually met a Finnish motorsport star because he's inside his house. here it is:Tornio (Finland) (AFP) - Hundreds of predominantly Iraqi migrants who have travelled through Europe to reach Finland are turning back, saying they don't want to stay in the sparsely-populated country on Europe's northern frontier because it's too cold and boring. Nonsense fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Sep 26, 2015 |
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Sep 26, 2015 16:30
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hackbunny posted:Why is this thread now about loving Finland I think the thread became Finlandchat because it's the only nation that we've been given anything even approaching actual data on, so when it comes to potential societal or economic benefits and consequences of taking in refugees and migrants Finland is the best case to discuss since we have some starting points that aren't just inflammatory/congratulatory news snippets.
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Sep 26, 2015 16:34
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Nonsense posted:Tornio (Finland) (AFP) - Hundreds of predominantly Iraqi migrants who have travelled through Europe to reach Finland are turning back, saying they don't want to stay in the sparsely-populated country on Europe's northern frontier because it's too cold and boring. Instead of staying in this country of 80 million with plenty of jobs for everyone, let's head for a country on the arctic circle that's the same size but has only 7% of the population. What could go wrong? -Actual Iraqis
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Sep 26, 2015 16:43
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poo poo, I'd love to move to Finland apparently, cause I'm all for cold and boring. Really.
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Sep 26, 2015 16:45
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Double Bill posted:Instead of staying in this country of 80 million with plenty of jobs for everyone, let's head for a country on the arctic circle that's the same size but has only 7% of the population. What could go wrong? The Finnish route tends to go through Moscow.
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Sep 26, 2015 16:46
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PaleIrishGuy posted:poo poo, I'd love to move to Finland apparently, cause I'm all for cold and boring. Really.
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Sep 26, 2015 16:47
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Volkerball posted:The Finnish route tends to go through Moscow. It did, in the 90s. Now 99+% of the arrivals go Germany -> Denmark -> Sweden -> Northern Finland.
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Sep 26, 2015 16:50
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Double Bill posted:It did, in the 90s. Now 99+% of the arrivals go Germany -> Denmark -> Sweden -> Northern Finland. Source?
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Sep 26, 2015 16:51
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Volkerball posted:Source? In Finnish (title is "Southeast border is not appealing for asylum seekers"): http://www.esaimaa.fi/Online/2015/09/22/Kaakkoisraja%20ei%20houkuttele%20turvapaikanhakijoita/2015519602008/4 According to Border Control about 10 asylum seekers have crossed the Finnish/Russian border this year. Compared to 500+ a day from Sweden at the moment. Double Bill fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Sep 26, 2015 |
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Sep 26, 2015 17:00
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hackbunny posted:Why is this thread now about loving Finland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users Hit percentage. Internet is actually a legal right in Finland! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10461048
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Sep 26, 2015 17:39
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DarkCrawler posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users By that logic alone there should be tons of French people in here, but I don't ever remember any discussion derailed by French goons. I'll go with the shut-in theory.
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Sep 26, 2015 17:43
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steinrokkan posted:By that logic alone there should be tons of French people in here, but I don't ever remember any discussion derailed by French goons. Oh definitely, we're like one of the most depressing/depressed people on Earth. I blame the snow and trees. And the alcohol. And the knives.
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Sep 26, 2015 17:48
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It's horrible here. Please don't come.
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Sep 26, 2015 17:55
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I don't think there are any refugees itt
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Sep 26, 2015 17:58
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Ligur posted:It's horrible here. Please don't come.
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Sep 26, 2015 19:35
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Ligur posted:It's horrible here. Please don't come.
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Sep 26, 2015 19:38
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Gravel Gravy posted:I don't think there are any refugees itt It is obvious that SA should start to accept it's quota of refugees.
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Sep 26, 2015 23:47
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Lowtechs posted:It is obvious that SA should start to accept it's quota of refugees. Considering most of you are American pieces of poo poo who should really take in at least half of these dudes if there was any justice in the world, good luck with that
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Sep 26, 2015 23:59
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DarkCrawler posted:Considering most of you are American pieces of poo poo who should really take in at least half of these dudes if there was any justice in the world, good luck with that
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Sep 27, 2015 01:22
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DarkCrawler posted:Considering most of you are American pieces of poo poo who should really take in at least half of these dudes if there was any justice in the world, good luck with that If there's any justice then the EU as a whole would pay reparations to the Middle East and other war torn regions.
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Sep 27, 2015 05:26
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computer parts posted:If there's any justice then the EU as a whole would pay reparations to the Middle East and other war torn regions. But the EU has never actually invaded anyone (you're thinking of two particular countries in Western Europe). I'm failing to see how you can hold places like Poland and Bulgaria responsible for all of that really, were they meant to invade France and the UK back in 1800? The amount of power you guys invest in the idea of 'Europe' as some kind of coordinated evil-empire that's just  masquerading as a bunch of independent states is crazy. The EU doesn't bear responsibility for anything because its ability to direct the foreign policy of its larger members is near zero.
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Sep 27, 2015 07:49
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computer parts posted:If there's any justice then the EU as a whole would pay reparations to the Middle East and other war torn regions. What evil things has Sweden or Croatia been doing in Middle East exactly?
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Sep 27, 2015 09:16
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Well Sweden`s been tolerating gay folks and promoting feminism for a while which is a form of indirect idelogical imperialism and a disrespect to the region`s value system. Croatian soldiers probably killed some Arabs who came to "help" during the Yugoslavian wars. Sweden`s foreign minister also hurt Saudi-Arabia`s feelings last year by pointing out what a utterly poo poo country it is.
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Sep 27, 2015 11:51
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Baudolino posted:Well Sweden`s been tolerating gay folks and promoting feminism for a while which is a form of indirect idelogical imperialism and a disrespect to the region`s value system. Croatian soldiers probably killed some Arabs who came to "help" during the Yugoslavian wars. Sweden`s foreign minister also hurt Saudi-Arabia`s feelings last year by pointing out what a utterly poo poo country it is. Sweden and Croatia were both in Afghanistan though. According to wikipedia, Sweden had almost 900 troops there while Croatia had about company strength. Afghanistan is not Middle east though.
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Sep 27, 2015 11:55
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lmaoboy1998 posted:I'm failing to see how you can hold places like Poland and Bulgaria responsible for all of that really, were they meant to invade France and the UK back in 1800? Poland was part of the Coalition of the Willing.
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Sep 27, 2015 11:59
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I think it's silly to accept refugees to "make up" for colonialism (real or tenuous). That would imply you can make up for colonialism.
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Sep 27, 2015 12:02
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lmaoboy1998 posted:But the EU has never actually invaded anyone (you're thinking of two particular countries in Western Europe). The two main countries in the EU had worldwide empires, as did Italy, Belgium, and other nations. BravestOfTheLamps posted:I think it's silly to accept refugees to "make up" for colonialism (real or tenuous). This is also true.
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Sep 27, 2015 14:07
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I think it's silly to accept refugees to "make up" for colonialism (real or tenuous). This sounds very profound but is actually very vapid if you think about it for more than a second. "We were terrible back then, sorry, but now we have to keep being terrible because we can never completely make up for the past anyway" - a bad argument. computer parts posted:The two main countries in the EU had worldwide empires, as did Italy, Belgium, and other nations. Uh, punish those countries then? Your hard on for collective EU responsibility is weirding me out.
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Sep 27, 2015 15:32
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lmaoboy1998 posted:Uh, punish those countries then? Your hard on for collective EU responsibility is weirding me out. Shared responsibility is an inherent part of a union.
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Sep 27, 2015 15:34
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computer parts posted:Shared responsibility is an inherent part of a union. For crimes committed before the union's existence? I don't think so.
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Sep 27, 2015 15:36
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Baudolino posted:Well Sweden`s been tolerating gay folks and promoting feminism for a while which is a form of indirect idelogical imperialism and a disrespect to the region`s value system. Croatian soldiers probably killed some Arabs who came to "help" during the Yugoslavian wars. Sweden`s foreign minister also hurt Saudi-Arabia`s feelings last year by pointing out what a utterly poo poo country it is. This is a pretty good example of why Europe as a whole should pay reparations, really. Of course, they can't make up for the infamous and villainous behavior of Europeans, but it does recognize that wrong has been done.
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Sep 27, 2015 15:36
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DarkCrawler posted:For crimes committed before the union's existence? I don't think so. It's not as though these crimes were a secret.
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Sep 27, 2015 15:51
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computer parts posted:It's not as though these crimes were a secret. No, but Ireland isn't retroactively guilty of the British Empire's crimes when it itself was target of those crimes, and there are countries in the EU who haven't been independent until the 90's. Retroactive punishment on all makes no sense whatsoever. It is not listed in any treaties or deals of the union, every country is still very much responsible of its own past and present poo poo.
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Sep 27, 2015 16:03
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DarkCrawler posted:No, but Ireland isn't retroactively guilty of the British Empire's crimes when it itself was target of those crimes. So let's compromise - those countries that were targets of the crimes are exempt, while those countries that benefited from the crimes of other countries should pay. Now all we need to determine is if Scandinavia et all benefitted from those crimes.
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Sep 27, 2015 16:14
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Sweden should pay reparations to Finland for their crimes against us when we were part of swedish kingdom.
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Sep 27, 2015 16:23
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