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chitoryu12 posted:I'll say what I said the last time: firearms is the only subject I've seen where the people who actually have a deep understanding of the subject matter are called crazy thugs if they try to participate. Actually, you shouldn't. They are awful.
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MaxxBot posted:Well the overwhelming majority of gun crime is done with handguns, almost none is done with "assault weapons," so if I were a gun control supporter I would start there. You'd also have to find a way to bring down the vast number of handguns out there already or else you wouldn't do much good. I think we should ban rifles and 'assault weapons,' but not handguns, just to collectively watch TFR melt down to purestrain gold. Let's start there.
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MaxxBot posted:Well the overwhelming majority of gun crime is done with handguns, almost none is done with "assault weapons," so if I were a gun control supporter I would start there. You'd also have to find a way to bring down the vast number of handguns out there already or else you wouldn't do much good. You mean the exact same restrictions on handguns that the NRA et al have spent decades tearing down?
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icantfindaname posted:just got volume 5-6 of lucifer and the biscuit hammer in the mail from amazon, but it has some kind of weird loving printing error where the top half-inch or so of every page is cut off and there's a corresponding half-inch of blank paper at the bottom. god dammit amazon Do you see what gun control does people?
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Oct 1, 2015 21:12
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If you want to ahem, protect the *extremely strong ahem* rights of gun owners to hunt and protect themselves at home from threats that will materialize, there's no reason not to ban anything with a mag and only permit bolt-action rifles with 3 round capacity, shotguns and revolvers.
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zoux posted:If you want to ahem, protect the *extremely strong ahem* rights of gun owners to hunt and protect themselves at home from threats that will materialize, there's no reason not to ban anything with a mag and only permit bolt-action rifles with 3 round capacity, shotguns and revolvers. I think you mean a clip?
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Oct 1, 2015 21:13
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zoux posted:If you want to ahem, protect the *extremely strong ahem* rights of gun owners to hunt and protect themselves at home from threats that will materialize, there's no reason not to ban anything with a mag and only permit bolt-action rifles with 3 round capacity, shotguns and revolvers. if we ban handguns though the suicide rate will decrease and i find this to be an inexcusable restriction on the 2A rights of americans
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Zanzibar Ham posted:I suggest banning all guns except .22 Long Rifles which aren't lethal. Popular Thug Drink posted:if we ban handguns though the suicide rate will decrease and i find this to be an inexcusable restriction on the 2A rights of americans
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MaxxBot posted:Well the overwhelming majority of gun crime is done with handguns, almost none is done with "assault weapons," so if I were a gun control supporter I would start there. You'd also have to find a way to bring down the vast number of handguns out there already or else you wouldn't do much good. Which is the goal of background checks and stuff like closing the gun show loophole. The assault weapons and high capacity magazine stuff are pretty much about addressing mass shootings in particular, and not general gun crime. That is why those suggestions tend to come up following a mass shooting. edit: Also that's why there's pressure to make background checks a federal thing, or at least uniform across the nation. So you can't just go to Texas or somewhere else to pick up a gun. TGLT fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Oct 1, 2015 21:14
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Popular Thug Drink posted:if we ban handguns though the suicide rate will decrease and i find this to be an inexcusable restriction on the 2A rights of americans Agreed. This is a pretty fundamental right for gun owners IMHO
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Oct 1, 2015 21:14
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this_is_hard posted:I think you mean a clip? They get really mad when you use correct terminology because it doesn't let them derail the debate into a argument about terms instead of policy.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:14
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Heh these dudes who are sad about ten+ people dying in a mass shooting don't know anything about guns
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Oct 1, 2015 21:16
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I support forcing all guns to be permanently held against each other like they're kissing.this_is_hard posted:I think you mean a clip? You mean the bayonet.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:16
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Nintendo Kid posted:I support forcing all guns to be permanently held against each other like they're kissing. Augh gay guns!
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Well you see, the island of Chicago has severe restrictions on handguns and just look at the murder rate there! And furthermore 
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zoux posted:If you want to ahem, protect the *extremely strong ahem* rights of gun owners to hunt and protect themselves at home from threats that will materialize, there's no reason not to ban anything with a mag and only permit bolt-action rifles with 3 round capacity, shotguns and revolvers. See you're just proving chitoryu12's point, revolvers are much more commonly used in gun crimes than rifles with a magazine.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:16
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zoux posted:Yeah I don't either tbh but I feel like they have to. Me too. I mean if superpacs didn't work people wouldn't donate millions of dollars to them right? OK that sounds sarcastic but I don't mean it that way.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:17
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* chitoryu12 flips the channel, his trusty sig sauer resting silently in his lap * "ANOTHER MASS SHOOTING..." The news drones into the background noise. * chitoryu12 sighs * "To think, the number of people that are going to be discussing this issue without understanding the difference between a clip and a magazine. It's a loving national travesty." * chitoryu12 sets his pistol aside, being sure not to break trigger discipline * "Well, guess I better get ready" * chitoryu12 grabs his notebook, pulls up his firefox web browser (version 38.3.0 ESR, of course), and finds the bookmark folder titled "USE IN CASE OF MASS SHOOTING" * * chitoryu12 clicks on the only bookmark * "Debate and Discussion, my old friend. " * farts *
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Oct 1, 2015 21:17
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guns shouldn't be banned, but anyone who shows interest in owning them should be banned from doing so
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Oct 1, 2015 21:17
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MaxxBot posted:See you're just proving chitoryu12's point, revolvers are much more commonly used in gun crimes than rifles with a magazine. In mass shootings? That's what I'm talking about not general crime. I think the policy proposal I said would more or less end double digit fatality mass shootings in America. Also if I had to guess, I'd guess that revolvers are cheaper or more available or some other variable rather than they are just better to do crimes with.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:18
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icantfindaname posted:guns shouldn't be banned, but anyone who shows interest in owning them should be banned from doing so Anyone who wants to be in charge shouldn't be. We need to devise a system wherein we elect only the people who least want to be elected.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:19
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icantfindaname posted:guns shouldn't be banned, but anyone who shows interest in owning them should be banned from doing so Welp, we've got our first  ITT.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:19
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They should probably just stop letting spergs go out in public if they're gonna keep murdering everyone. Fedoras and Goku shirts should be shoot-on-sight for our nation's police.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:21
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icantfindaname posted:guns shouldn't be banned, but anyone who shows interest in owning them should be banned from doing so That's some catch.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:22
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TGLT posted:Which is the goal of background checks and stuff like closing the gun show loophole. The assault weapons and high capacity magazine stuff are pretty much about addressing mass shootings in particular, and not general gun crime. That is why those suggestions tend to come up following a mass shooting. If you try to buy a privately owned gun from a state you're not a resident of, that's interstate commerce and requires a background check already. Even if you meet at a gun show. Ironically the federal "power" to mandate UBC nationwide didn't exist until after Raich v Gonzalez redefined "commerce" to include non-commercial things like pot grown for your own use. Which is why the Brady Bill background checks law passed in the 90's didn't mandate nationwide UBC at the time even though back then the NRA was nominally in favor of doing that.
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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Oct 1, 2015 21:23
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guns should be legal but firing them should not be everyone has to make *pkew pkew ratatatatatat* noises w/ their mouths from now on
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Oct 1, 2015 21:23
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I think mass shootings are very good because I am a Real American.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:26
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Gravel Gravy posted:That's some catch. Catch .22
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Oct 1, 2015 21:26
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Catch .22 
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Oct 1, 2015 21:27
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this_is_hard posted:Welp, we've got our first because the evil gubmint taking your manchild toys away is literally equivalent to the holocaust. got it
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Oct 1, 2015 21:27
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NRCC decided to go with a fundraising pitch of "give us money so we can defend the 2nd amendment" shortly after this news broke, which seems ghoulish even for them Remember, it is in bad taste to discuss gun control as something we need this soon after a tragedy, but perfectly appropriate to raise money and discuss gun control as something we don't need this soon after a tragedy
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icantfindaname posted:because the evil gubmint taking your manchild toys away is literally equivalent to the holocaust. got it Thinking doesn't come easy to this_is_hard
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Oct 1, 2015 21:28
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:I think mass shootings are very good because I am a Real American. Fight for the rights of every man (to own machine guns and discriminate against black people)
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Oct 1, 2015 21:28
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Catch .22 I see what you did there.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I feel this way about politics. sortition worked for Athens, it can work for us
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Oct 1, 2015 21:28
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What if all guns came with a holder where you could clip your magazine to the gun when you want to read something while shooting. Then everyone with a gun would be confused and end up writing new yorker cartoon captions.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:29
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I don't trigger guns they trigger me
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Oct 1, 2015 21:30
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Meaningful gun control would be the following. Any firearm that can fire more than one round per trigger pull or any firearm with a barrel length under 14" should be treated exactly the same regarding gun control laws. All firearm sales require a minimum 15 day waiting period & federal background check, including gun sales between two parties.
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icantfindaname posted:sortition worked for Athens, it can work for us Recently selected President Chad "Broseph" Pennington III makes it clear in his first address to the nation that it's time to make sure everyone in America can get "wasted, high, and laid".
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