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RareAcumen posted:Seeing Sans now, I'm able to freely say that I'm a bit miffed at how he was generally ineffective when Flowey abushed everyone on the True Pacifist run. Sans doesn't want to fight, so it makes sense. Plus the fact that Flowery cheap-shots everyone before anyone can act.
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RareAcumen posted:Seeing Sans now, I'm able to freely say that I'm a bit miffed at how he was generally ineffective when Flowey ambushed everyone on the True Pacifist run. He has 1 HP and 1 DEF and was ambushed. I mean, that kinda explains itself.
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Don't freak out over the name "Chara". To add one more to the pile so that it really sinks in, "Chara" is the in-engine default name for the player character, it's just that there's no menu option to go with the default - which is why there's an easter egg for naming them that. It helps to have particular name for the Fallen Child, and it's not a canonical name, because it's not really a plot-related thing. It's related to the game programming itself. It's (almost) entirely fanon, and it has no significance otherwise.RareAcumen posted:Seeing Sans now, I'm able to freely say that I'm a bit miffed at how he was generally ineffective when Flowey abushed everyone on the True Pacifist run. Why would she? She had no idea that anything was gonna happen. Also, sans doesn't wanna do anything until he absolutely has to. He similarly got caught off guard.
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I did only say a bit miffed. You'd think they'd be able to do more than deflect a single attack each considering how much time they had to hype you up, after all.
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Nov 3, 2015 18:10
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I think the only real question we have left is 'what's with that door near Snowdin'. And I'm assuming that's something that'll come up on the final run. Unless the answer is 'it's one big troll there's nothing behind it'.
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Nov 3, 2015 18:12
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RareAcumen posted:Seeing Sans now, I'm able to freely say that I'm a bit miffed at how he was generally ineffective when Flowey abushed everyone on the True Pacifist run. Sans doesn't hate Flowey. He only barely knows who the hell Flowey is. The strength that he's showing in his fight comes from wanting to murder the gently caress out of you with the force of a thousand suns.
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Nov 3, 2015 18:14
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LORD OF BUTT posted:Sans doesn't hate Flowey. He only barely knows who the hell Flowey is. The strength that he's showing in his fight comes from wanting to murder the gently caress out of you with the force of a thousand suns. One cool detail is when his eye starts to go crazy, it flares up yellow and light blue - which, according to that ball game in Snowdin, represents the virtues of "Justice" and "Patience." Sans is your judge, and waits until the very last moment before stepping in and putting your rear end down.
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Nov 3, 2015 18:17
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Chara = In-game Prof Gary. 
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Oxxidation posted:One cool detail is when his eye starts to go crazy, it flares up yellow and light blue - which, according to that ball game in Snowdin, represents the virtues of "Justice" and "Patience." Sans is your judge, and waits until the very last moment before stepping in and putting your rear end down. Since he's so willing to let everyone die without doing a thing to help I think he could stand to be a little less sanctimonious about it.
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Nov 3, 2015 18:21
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Dzhay posted:Gary. Jerry Oak. 
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Nov 3, 2015 18:24
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There's an orchestral version of Megalovania on Spotify, if you're one of those people who uses streaming music services. It's pretty good. No other versions up though 
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Sans doesn't want to fight, so it makes sense. Plus the fact that Flowery cheap-shots everyone before anyone can act. Also I get the impression that he had faith Frisk would work things out anyway. Sans is a cool guy By the way, another small detail in the fight: For the entire game in a normal run, Sans always winks at you with his left eye: the one that glows when he gets dangerous. Once he's aggro'd, Sans starts winking with his right eye instead. He isn't taking his killing eye off you Augus fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Speaking of eyes, is Undyne's Determined form shooting a laser out of her eye-hole?
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It's a spear.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Speaking of eyes, is Undyne's Determined form shooting a laser out of her eye-hole? It's flaring, too, but I think we only see the flashes because her anime eyepatch covers it up.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Speaking of eyes, is Undyne's Determined form shooting a laser out of her eye-hole? Her eye glints with determination. and three parts anime.
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Nov 3, 2015 18:44
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It's a sign she is powering up I think. Cable from X-men does the same when he needs to look cool.
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Gabriel Pope posted:Also, I'm curious. Is "c'mon, buddy. do you remember me?" specifically a response to having completed a neutral/pacifist run on your save or is it part of sans's dialogue regardless? I've seen the dialogue differently on a different genocide playthrough and from how it's different I'm pretty sure that the text here is unique to having done a pacifist run before. A ton of people have answered as such already, I'm only posting because I want to stress is that to my knowledge Sans still "spares" you after some "c'mon buddy" dialogue regardless of what routes you've completed, the text is just different Edit: And to address someone saying he couldn't because his memories were erased, yeah I figure they were but he somehow knows about saving and loading and probably inferred from how you acted (maybe a tinge of guilt?) of what you might have done before, he just can't be sure about it. Rawkking fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Yeah, I know that Sans doesn't remember but considering he can accuately suss out exactly how many times he's killed you I'd say he's pretty drat good at reading time travelers' experiences.
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lets hang out posted:Since he's so willing to let everyone die without doing a thing to help I think he could stand to be a little less sanctimonious about it. What is he supposed to do in order to "help"? Sans knows that he ultimately can't stop you, and that doesn't change no matter when he would confront you. He's only doing it at the very end because you're about to destroy the world and he no longer has any choice but to try. At that point he's betting on the possibility of the player tiring of getting dunked on and resetting the game, in which case it doesn't matter that you've killed everyone.
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Elfface posted:I think the only real question we have left is 'what's with that door near Snowdin'. And I'm assuming that's something that'll come up on the final run. As someone who legitimately has no idea what's behind it, I hope just  .
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Kurieg posted:So, like Earthbound health. Thank you for bringing this up. It was quite obvious to me that this was a rather cool reference to Earthbound's rolling HP meter, and I'm surprised nobody else in this thread has talked about this.
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That reminds me, has it ever been revealed how Undyne lost the eye? Does she just wear the eyepatch for coolness?
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We did everything we could in the game, got bored, and killed everybody in the game. Then, since there wasn't anybody left in the game to kill, we killed the game. I'm reminded of Little Inferno. That was a one-gimmick, one-message game, but its message was a good one. Wonder if Undertale was barking up the same tree.
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One cool detail shared by Undyne the Undying and sans is that their left eye glows like a motherfucker.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:As someone who legitimately has no idea what's behind it, I hope just ? Another kid fell down the hole?"
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Maybe she has the eye patch so she can be like Badass sans.
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What's up with his shadow here? Is it just supposed to be eerie, or is it something I missed? If it's spoilers just shut me up
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Aithon posted:What's up with his shadow here? Is it just supposed to be eerie, or is it something I missed? If it's spoilers just shut me up It looks like the laser blasters he used in the fight.
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I know these are already old, but I laughed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZRuJkbHeVs
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Cross-posting from the spoilerific thread, it's pretty timely for where this thread is"ThisIsACoolGuy" posted:
Do you remember where you were when reality got dunked on?
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lets hang out posted:Since he's so willing to let everyone die without doing a thing to help I think he could stand to be a little less sanctimonious about it. Knowing that at any moment, everything you've done will be wiped out makes it kind of hard to give it your all. There'll just be another reset. And he won't remember any of it. Why bother? ...unless you know that this time, it matters.
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Augus posted:Cross-posting from the spoilerific thread, it's pretty timely for where this thread is I refuse to believe that wasn't called in as a gag.
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RareAcumen posted:Seeing Sans now, I'm able to freely say that I'm a bit miffed at how he was generally ineffective when Flowey abushed everyone on the True Pacifist run. Do you remember what he said during the Lost Souls segment? He'd given up. Also, imagine if he hadn't, during that part. On one side you'd have Papyrus sending out normal Bone Bros attacks and on the other THAT. Valgaav fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Rangpur posted:no fuckin way people have genuinely freaked about dumber things
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Wasn't there a church lady like ten years ago who was convinced her daughter's baby-simulator DS game was saying "Islam is the light" and it was actually just gibberish baby talk? e: it was actually only six years ago
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 Now that we've done the killer ending, lets do the secret ending where everyone learns to cook.
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Oh yeah, since the Sans fight has been finished I can link to Everdraed's Good Time vine Impressive that people managed to beat him without taking a single hit (excluding the part where he slams you around like rag-doll of course)
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GlyphGryph posted:I've seen the speculation as the barrier is at the mouth of the cave. Since it's a cool cave, they walk in and... can't get back out. The only way forward is down. A kid who goes mountain climbing/spelunking in full ballerina gear is no kid to be trifled with.
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Well, I guess it's a good thing I've already gone through that part of the game myself, because the amount of GIFs made my browser get dunked on and half the poo poo won't load. It might be prudent to split that update in half come archival time. Sans... yeah, that was a drat good fight. Took us about twenty tries, he sure put up a hell of a lot more of a fight than Undyne did. Of course, we never got dunked on - really, Sans, we had to murder my favorite character so hard she turned into goo, and you're going to spare us? Yeah, no thanks, not buying it or even caring enough to acknowledge it. Of course, when I talk about "us", I mean "Chara (or in my case, Simon) and me". Unlikely comrades in arms with goals not entirely conform with each other, but comrades nonetheless. ProfessorProf posted:
Out of all the memorable and impactful lines in this game, this is the one that really gave me pause for thought. Made me think back to all the RPGs and similar games I played. All the enemies I destroyed. All the numbers I increased. All the way back to the first RPG I ever played - a Final Fantasy game, I believe. Can't quite remember, it was quite a while ago. I didn't have a loving clue what I was doing and the story went completely over my head, I'm sure, but the concept of beating up enemies and making numbers go up, that still resonated with me. Didn't know what the numbers were for, but I knew that them going up was a good thing. I thought of the time I went through the Four Job Fiesta and didn't really know what I was doing because I didn't work out that Mystic Knight is a really loving good job to have, so I grinded the hell out of the game. Tedious work, and yet, the numbers going up and the constant progress towards my goal I was making... I was still having a lot of fun. And all those times, Chara was there with me. Thinking about it like that caused a total emotional disconnect from the game. So I destroyed the world of Undertale without a second thought. Here's to you, Chara. Can't wait for our reunion when I decide to get back to playing Persona 2, you must have gotten a kick out of when I grinded the casino for hours on end just to get some items for the entire party to make the numbers go up more.
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Power.