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Noctone posted:I think you're being obtuse to save face on a dumb argument. Virtually every Heisman contender has had at least one down game. It's absolutely silly to say a player shouldn't be in the conversation after one bad game, particularly when it was against one of the better defenses in the sport. This is why I wouldn't count out fournette. It's not like he struggled against Vandy or something
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Sorry sparty, you looked better than Nebraska for the majority of that game. Nebraska was playing balls-to-the-wall. That's the best the team had played this year. If this game had been in Michigan I don't think Nebraska would have had a chance. The last no-call was obviously a tough way to go out, although I thought the officiating had been pretty bad the whole game. As others have said, I think MSU's last two offensive drives and prevent defense probably had more to do with the loss than the bad refs. Riley just bought some good will. I hope his team can play like this two more times.
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I still think Riley and his staff are garbage and it's annoying that we're probably stuck with them for at least a couple more years, but SPARTY NO is never not hilarious and I'm happy for the Nebraska players because it really has seemed like they've been trying their best this year.
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Noctone posted:I think you're being obtuse to save face on a dumb argument. Virtually every Heisman contender has had at least one down game. It's absolutely silly to say a player shouldn't be in the conversation after one bad game, particularly when it was against one of the better defenses in the sport. Ok man, sorry you feel that way, but it's genuinely my thoughts on it. He had not just a bad game, but a game where he had <1 yard per carry until he broke one late run. I still think he's by far the best all around back in the country, but you're crazy if you think this game won't at least affect the conversation.
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Of course it affects the conversation. He was the frontrunner before the game, now I would say it's pretty clear he'll have to be a monster the rest of the year to win it. But unless he has middling stats the rest of the year I would still say he's going to be on almost every ballot.
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I just didn't think Florida should've moved up in the polls after winning a poor game. v v
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CaptainYesterday posted:I just didn't think Florida should've moved up in the polls after winning a poor game. v It's the day after, the traditional time for TFF grumpyposting. Don't worry about it dude
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CaptainYesterday posted:I just didn't think Florida should've moved up in the polls after winning a poor game. v It's not so much that they moved up as the people above them embarrassed themselves and the people below them didn't do much to impress.
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I'm just a bit fragile because my team lost to loving NEW MEXICO STATE. I mean, WOW.
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Seaniqua posted:Sorry sparty, you looked better than Nebraska for the majority of that game. Nebraska was playing balls-to-the-wall. That's the best the team had played this year. If this game had been in Michigan I don't think Nebraska would have had a chance. those players were playing their asses off and were playing to win we were playing not to lose (poorly)
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ACoolT5 posted:I must be really out of the loop. What did Mizzou's president do exactly? alpha_destroy did an effortpost on it in D&D, here: alpha_destroy posted:I have been debating for days whether or not to post about this in this thread. Everything about the situation at Mizzou is a loving poo poo show at the moment. At the beginning of the semester Mizzou gave graduate students something ridiculous like less than 72 hour notice we were losing our health insurance. Then they tried to take tuition waivers away from grad students working quarter time, which of course, disproportionately harms humanities departments. Then the student body president got called a friend of the family on campus, which the chancellor took something like 6 days to respond to. Then the Legion of Black Collegians got called niggers by a student while they were organizing their homecoming protest. Then the Chancellor ended our relationship with Planned Parenthood that had let med students perform clinical hours at PP and gave PP doctors clinical privileges at the University Hospital, which was the only thing that allowed them to perform abortions in Columbia. Then someone drew a swastika in one of the dorms in feces. Columbia's Yik-Yak right now has a bunch of hilarious jokes like "how do you starve a friend of the family? hide his welfare check under his work boots." I also saw a picture of a monkey being distributed as a picture of Jonathan Butler, the student on the hunger strike. Yesterday, morning djs were debating whether or not they should send Butler Taco Bell. Oh yea! I forgot, the LBC protested the homecoming parade by stepping in front of the president's car. His driver promptly revved his engine continuously and bumped two of the students. Oh ya! and during one of the marches in the wake of the student body president being called a friend of the family some white kid was yelling about how it was a violation of his free speech for the black students to hold a rally in the speaker's circle and not let him blare techno music over them. Anyway, the point is everything about this school is super hosed up right now. I have hope that JB will actually succeed in his hunger strike though. Partially because of this video of our wonderful president supposedly after allowing protesting students to be sprayed with sprinklers. This dude is totally unfit to run a university. There is no way the curators are not forced to face this fact. Hopefully.
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Noctone posted:It's not so much that they moved up as the people above them embarrassed themselves and the people below them didn't do much to impress. Pretty much. There aren't any really dominant teams this year and there isn't any player that is head and shoulders above others for the Heisman. It's all muddled.
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Emron posted:Ok man, sorry you feel that way, but it's genuinely my thoughts on it. He had not just a bad game, but a game where he had <1 yard per carry until he broke one late run. I still think he's by far the best all around back in the country, but you're crazy if you think this game won't at least affect the conversation. In a vacuum, maybe Fournette's bad game eliminates him from Heisman contention but in reality nobody else is really standing out. If you want someone consistently good with no bad games I think your answer is Ezekiel Elliot.
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tranime scholar posted:alpha_destroy did an effortpost on it in D&D, here: Sounds like a bunch of individual incidents lead to this. But if you're the President of a University part of the job is figurehead, so I suppose you can't really be surprised if people concentrate blame in your direction.
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All of them are still in the conversation. There's not one who's a stand out yet.
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Strobe posted:Corey Coleman. Let's reserve judgement until they play a team with a pulse.
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Rad Valtar posted:The Big XII should have no one in the top 4 because they are a bad conference. As opposed to Clemson of the ACC, a good conference.
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Frackie Robinson posted:As opposed to Clemson of the ACC, a good conference. That is correct.
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Frackie Robinson posted:As opposed to Clemson of the ACC, a good conference. The big 12 is a bad conference until they can produce something on par as georgiatechcar.gif
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In the end I think the Big 12 is going to get burned not by its lack of a championship game, but by its backloaded schedule. I don't think any of the top 4 will be able to go undefeated, and because they're only just now starting to play each other, just about all of them are going to have a loss in the last four weeks of the season.
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Spintzel posted:The big 12 is a bad conference until they can produce something on par as georgiatechcar.gif I can't argue with this. Even the big ten has Purduemodeltrain.gif
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vyst posted:I can't argue with this. Even the big ten has Purduemodeltrain.gif Hey, Purdue is Objectively Better than Nebraska, and thus better than Michigan State. The Big Ten: Even The Bad Teams Are Good.
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Wanvig posted:Big sarcastic shoutout to Memphis for making GBS threads their bed last night and probably costing Houston the chance to host College Gameday featuring Lee "Eh, gently caress it!" Corso this weekend.
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bushes posted:Quite a few were predicting Navy to win. AAC conference is the best conference this year. It's one of the better conferences but it won't get respect because it isn't filled with teams like Maryland, Rutgers, or Purdue.
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I think that LSU is probably overrated as is the rest of the SEC now that Arkansas is spreading Toledo-AIDS among them like wildfire but I think that Fournette deserves the Heisman at this point given his body of work no matter what happen against Alabama. A lot of good backs look bad against them and since he is their entire offense it is easy to stop him with enough bodies.
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Yoshifan823 posted:Hey, Purdue is Objectively Better than Nebraska, and thus better than Michigan State. The Big Ten: Even The Bad Teams Are Good. Purdue is pretty good, would probably win the SEC east, maybe be behind LSU, Bama in the west.
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Pakled posted:http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll/2015/11 Why are we still getting votes other than some diehard  homerism.
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Bip Roberts posted:Purdue is pretty good, would probably win the SEC east, maybe be behind LSU, Bama in the west. Lol
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ACoolT5 posted:Sounds like a bunch of individual incidents lead to this. But if you're the President of a University part of the job is figurehead, so I suppose you can't really be surprised if people concentrate blame in your direction. President of a university kinda does a lot, actually. Figurehead, sure, but a lot of lobbying, recruiting talent, business partnerships, etc. Losing faculty support cuts into a lot of those efforts.
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Bip Roberts posted:Purdue is pretty good, would probably win the SEC east, maybe be behind LSU, Bama in the west. Please tell me more about the alternate universe in which you live. Yesterday was finally the point that the program hit rock bottom. The blogs are just over it. Alums are pulling support and just giving up. I don't know the the answer is because our AD got a promotion and raise for ruining the most visible revenue sport and locking up a lovely coach for years. We will never buy Hazell out so we have probably at least 2 more years of making a national mockery of the sport while we take that pile of cash from BTN and put it to academics while the rest of the conference actually uses it for athletics. Football is stupid. See you guys in 3-5 years. 
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mayodreams posted:Please tell me more about the alternate universe in which you live. wildcats, bitch
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Mahoning posted:Let's reserve judgement until they play a team with a pulse. To be fair, lots of receivers have been playing lots of lovely teams, and none except Josh Doctson have put up the stupid numbers that Coleman has.
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MourningView posted:Iowa is still undefeated. Everything is amazing. CJ Beathard is tough as gently caress. I usually hate when people describe someone saying: "He's a winner." But, that poo poo applies to Beathard. Dude finds a way to win. Clutch as gently caress on 3rd downs and seemingly impossible situations. King is pretty drat awesome, too.
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Scrapez posted:I usually hate when people describe someone saying: "He's a winner." But, that poo poo applies to Beathard. I unironically feel that if Desmond King were on an SEC team and putting up the numbers he's putting up he'd be a national name.
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Spintzel posted:The big 12 is a bad conference until they can produce something on par as georgiatechcar.gif Ummm, have you forgotten about turkeyleg.gif?
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