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kw0134 posted:I think it's perfectly reasonable to "spoiler" the fact you can only fight Asgore because there lies only frustration if you keep dying and wondering why he won't stop trying to kill you. My playthrough was 99% blind, but after Asgore killed me too many times to count I had to look up the solution. I couldn't come to the realization on my own that this time really was different. Buzzsaw Roomba fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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To be fair, he only said it after I tried everything else I could think of and proceeded to show extreme reluctance to go near the fight button! Then I impressed him by beating Asgore on my first try, which felt pretty awesome (I think my boyfriend isn't the best at bullet hell games  ).
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I honestly think that one of the greatest achievements of this drat game is to make people so reluctant to hurt anyone that they can literally spend dozens of tries getting killed over and over rather than fight even when the game literally tells you that this is what you must do.Captain Bravo posted:Let's all give thanks, everyone, for the glut of Undertale fanworks available, like this one. This is The Best Thing.
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Nov 25, 2015 18:30
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The game literally tells you that you have to fight him. Like, I believe the exact words are 'There's no choice but to FIGHT.'
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Nov 25, 2015 18:31
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Please don't start this argument again.
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Cerebral Bore posted:I honestly think that one of the greatest achievements of this drat game is to make people so reluctant to hurt anyone that they can literally spend dozens of tries getting killed over and over rather than fight even when the game literally tells you that this is what you must do. I agree with both of those sentiments.
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Nov 25, 2015 18:38
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More to the point, he starts the battle by literally destroying your Mercy command. ...I say that, but I still tried talking him down until he murdered me, the first time.
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Nov 25, 2015 19:36
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I just killed the bosses on my first playthrough.
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I just realized there's something that should be checked on this run! What happens if you use X or Z?
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S.D. posted:What happens if you use X or Z? You just can't, probably because Game Maker uses those as the default action buttons and treats them specially.
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Seyser Koze posted:I just killed the bosses on my first playthrough. I fought when I got new items and then I just reset. v  v Why not? The game already wanted you to kill Toriel and then feel guilty enough to fix that in the beginning.Cerebral Bore posted:I honestly think that one of the greatest achievements of this drat game is to make people so reluctant to hurt anyone that they can literally spend dozens of tries getting killed over and over rather than fight even when the game literally tells you that this is what you must do. That and being scared to open presents.
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S.D. posted:What happens if you use X or Z? I'm pretty sure it just submits what you've already inputted as your essay instead of having to wait for the timer to finish.
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S.D. posted:What happens if you use X or Z? You end up shooting bullets at him, but they don't hurt him at all.
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Captain Bravo posted:Let's all give thanks, everyone, for the glut of Undertale fanworks available, like this one. I was really hoping for the old whoopie cushion in the hand trick. It's funny every time.
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Good luck and stay determined, OP. This has been a lot of fun, seeing what Papyrus has to spout off about without anybody to temper him, except occasionally Sans.
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I've just read the first few pages of this LP so as not to spoil myself, but I'm blown away. I picked it up yesterday and I've only played for a couple hours so far, but I'm enjoying it so much I'm kind of dreading getting to the end. Definitely my GOTY.
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jblare posted:So a web comic I follow has gone on hiatus so its author could produce this http://aftertale.smackjeeves.com/comics/2218066/intro/ definitely worth checking out. Thank you for the terrible fanfiction comic.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Thank you for the terrible fanfiction comic. What's the matter, general thread not giving you enough attention?
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dont start a slapfight over a fanfic for gently caress's sake
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Especially not with Bravest, who is so allergic to fan-produced content I am surprised they do not get a rash when they click on this subforum.
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paradoxGentleman posted:Especially not with Bravest, who is so allergic to fan-produced content I am surprised they do not get a rash when they click on this subforum. This is like the 5th thread I've seen him screaming about people not enjoying things correctly. And let me tell you, it doesn't grow on you. jblare posted:So a web comic I follow has gone on hiatus so its author could produce this http://aftertale.smackjeeves.com/comics/2218066/intro/ definitely worth checking out. This is actually really Cool and Good though, thanks jblare!
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Fanworks would propably be better off in the main thread in games. I actually like checking this thread because its actually talking about the game. The main thread has just become talking about fanworks 24/7 because they have actually nothing left to discuss about the game itself outside of people playing it for the first time, or going "hey guys did you know ____ song is connected to ____ song?"
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Tengames posted:Fanworks would propably be better off in the main thread in games. In another couple of months discussion will hopefully have more or less died off. Half as long, twice as bright.
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Tengames posted:Fanworks would propably be better off in the main thread in games. While it is a shame, I suppose that is unavoidable when dealing with a game that will not be updated.
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senae posted:This is like the 5th thread I've seen him screaming about people not enjoying things correctly. And let me tell you, it doesn't grow on you. I can kinda forgive him for thinking that this is the right thread for it, though.
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paradoxGentleman posted:Especially not with Bravest, who is so allergic to fan-produced content I am surprised they do not get a rash when they click on this subforum. I am sorry that I don't like the poorly-drawn comic that plagiarizes dialogue and characters. senae posted:screaming about people not enjoying things correctly. I think you may be projecting a bit. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Nov 27, 2015 |
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I am happy to report that the recording of the final updates is well underway and that I'm going to nip this one in the bud before this thread gets really awful again
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GunnerJ posted:I can kinda forgive him for thinking that this is the right thread for it, though.
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 Time for a musical interlude.  You can move around during this sequence, if you want to dance with Mettaton.  No matter where you end up though, there'll be a trap door there.  So, the colored tile maze.  With quick thinking...  It's possible to reach the end in under 30 seconds.   YOU MADE IT THROUGH THE PUZZLE!!! AND NOW, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, THE FLAMES WILL BE DEACTIVATED! NO! MORE! FIRE! ...BUT IT'S AS THE PHRASE GOES. "OUT OF THE FIRE, AND INTO THE FRYING PAN." THAT'S RIGHT, DARLING! EVEN IF YOU MANAGE TO BEAT THE HEAT... YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND MY HOT METAL BODY! PREPARE YOURSELF FOR MY  Flames, deactivate!! ... ...huh? THE HUMAN FINISHED THE PUZZLE. I ALREADY TURNED OFF THE FLAMES. IN FACT, I WAS ABOUT TO FIGHT THE HUMAN. Wh-wh-what? TH-THAT puzzle? I mean, uhh... Great job! We've got him on the ropes now! ON THE ROPES? HA! I ONLY DEACTIVATED THE FLAMES KNOWING THAT ALPHYS WOULD HAVE ANYWAY. ...NOW, WHERE WERE WE? OH YES. I WAS GOING TO ERADICATE YOU! That didn't go well. Fortunately, I have another idea.  I load my game.   (YOU LOOK BORED, DARLING.) (I WANT THIS TO BE A STELLAR PERFORMANCE, SO IF YOU WON'T GIVE IT YOUR ALL...) (THEN I'LL SKIP AHEAD FOR THE AUDIENCE'S SAKE.) (KA-SIGH... THE SHOW MUST GO ON!)  AND BEFORE WE EVEN HAD TIME TO SING A SWEET SONG ABOUT IT. MY DEAR HEART! I CAN BARELY LOOK UPON YOU, KNOWING WHAT COMES NEXT... WELL, TOODLES! So, the reason Mettaton attacks is that, by the rules, if I step on a green tile, I have to fight a monster.  So, I just won't step on any green tiles!  PUZZLE? OVER? ALPHYS, DARLING, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT...? DID YOU FORGET WHAT THE GREEN TILES DO? THEY MAKE A SOUND, THEN YOU HAVE TO FIGHT A MONSTER. WELL, DARLING...! WELL, WELL, WELL. WELLY WELL WELL. WELL WELLY WELL WELL, WELL WELL WELLY. YOU NEVER STEPPED ON A GREEN TILE. ... AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO DIE. As you may have guessed, there's no getting around this fight.  Instead of pressing the yellow button, I Spare Mettaton.  Mettaton has a unique attack for this scene - it does a lot of damage, but it can be evaded easily by hugging the right wall. If you keep stalling:       I go through with the button thing, and 'defeat' Mettaton.   I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M FRIENDS... WITH A BONE-A-FIDE OPERA STAR!!! SURE! I'LL TRY. A. A. A. A. A. I'M SCREAMING VERY SLOWLY.  BUT WHAT DOES THE R STAND FOR? ROTINI? THE SCREW-SHAPED PASTA. I USED IT TO HOLD MY SENTRY STSATION TOGETHER.  Wh-WHAT!? You DON'T REMEMBER!? How could I be so easily defeateeeeeeeeeeeeed!? Dinner with Sans.   i mean, look at yourself. you haven't died a single time. hey, what's that look supposed to mean? am i wrong...? THAT'S SHORT FOR HOTLAND, RIGHT? AFTER TASTING MY COOKING, THAT SEEMS POINTLESS, RIGHT? THEY CAN SLIDE UNDER CLOESD DOOR HOLES 1 INCH HIGH. WHAT DO I MEAN? YOU'LL KNOW IT IF YOU SEE IT.(You hear a muffled bark behind one of the doors.)  YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO CALL PAST THERE. I KNOW! IT SOUNDS AWFUL! HOW WILL YOU GET BY WITHOUT ME? WELL, I HAVE CONFIDENCE YOU WILL FIND A WAY! I WILL TALK TO YOU AGAIN, SO DO NOT WORRY! GOOD LUCK OUT THERE! Off to the CORE.  Madjick's white title is "Learning Bowling." You can spare it by Talking or Staring once at each orb.  If you Talk, then your controls are reversed on the following turn. However, if you use Clear Mind first, that won't happen. Yellow title is "Street Magician."  Final Froggit can be Spared using any of its commands, but Mystify changes its title from "Searching For Life's Meaning" to "Giving Life Its Own Meaning." Whimsalot can be Spared either by Consoling it or by Praying and collectin the green butterflies it launches. This changes its title from "Fighting For The Future" to "The Long Battle Finally Ending".  Knight Knight can be spared by Singing three times, changing its title from "Retail Job" to "Taking a Well-Deserved Nap." If you did the Shyren concert event, then you only need to sing twice.  Asigmatism can be Spared by waiting a turn, reading whether he says "Pick on me" or "Don't pick on me," then following the instructions. This changes his title from "Still A Big Bully" to "Domineering Glasses Seller." If you Challenge Astigmatism, then it doesn't pacify him, but it does pacify every other monster on the field.  The rest of the Core passes without incident.  Mettaton has another hidden attack when waiting to be Turned for phase 2.  It's actually not necessary to attack Mettaton's heart - it can be beneficial not to. I got over 1000 Ratings off a single Boast by timing out the first heart phase. There are actually two Mettaton EX clear conditions: You can survive through three heart cycles and get 10,000 Ratings, or you can get 12,000 Ratings and the fight will end immediately.  Really, though, I've already shown off most of this. Also, I can't realistically hit the 12K mark early, because I'm still wearing the bandage so I can't use the costume swap bonus.  Mettaton is defeated.  Foreboding.  Elevator.  Undertale.  Nothing new to say about the approach.  Sans gives his usual speech.  I load my game.  Sans give his speech again, but...  that look on your face while i was talking... you've already heard my spiel, haven't you? i suspected something like this. you're always acting like you know what's going to happen. like you've seen it all before. so... i have a request for you. so i know if someone tells it to me... they'll have to be a time traveller. crazy, right? anyway, here it is... (whisper, whisper) I'm counting on you to come back here and tell me that. see you later. I load my game.  ... huh? do you have something to say to me? what? a codeword? can you speak a little louder? ... did you... ...just say "i'm a stupid doodoo butt?" wow. i can't believe you would say that. not only is that completely infantile... but it's also my secret codeword. that, however, isn't good enough. it's only for people that known the secret coeword. anyway, here it is... (whimsper, whimsper)... i'm counting on you to come back here and tell me that. see you later. I load my game.  ... huh? do you have something to say to me? what? a codeword? can you speak a little louder? ... did you... ...just say "i'm the legendary fartmaster?" wow. that's... uh... really childish. why would you think that was a secret codeword? whoever told you that is a dirty liar. i don't have a secret secret codeword. however. i do have a secret secret triple-secret codeword. which you just said. so, i guess you're qualified. here's the key to my room. it's time... you learned the truth.    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I have a sneaking suspicion that the Knight Knight is a reference to Esturk and Necrosaro, from Dragon Warrior/Quest 4.
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I thought I was so smart for trying the "just don't walk on a green panel" solution. Shame it didn't actually do anything, but I guess that's the way the story has to go. Can't have Alphys saving us without a fight.
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ProfessorProf posted:
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my dad posted:OK, I did not see this coming. Yeah, wow, hold on. I know nothing about this.
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StrangeAeon posted:I have a sneaking suspicion that the Knight Knight is a reference to Esturk and Necrosaro, from Dragon Warrior/Quest 4. Also, I think it's a play on "night night", the traditional farewell you give someone just before you leave them alone to let them go to sleep.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Mettaton. Yep, love this response of his.
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:Also, I think it's a play on "night night", the traditional farewell you give someone just before you leave them alone to let them go to sleep. Whoa, hold on, are you saying the Good Morningstar is in fact connected to something too? 
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slowbeef posted:Yeah, wow, hold on. I know nothing about this. I'm delirious with anticipation.
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ProfessorProf posted:Next time: The truth. Is this contingent on maintaining a pacifist run up until now? Can it be triggered before selling your soul, post-genocide?
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Rangpur posted:What in the F? I knew I only saw a fraction of the posssibilities during my playthroughs, but this drat game somehow manages to keep throwing out stuff I never even see discussed. You can't trigger it on a neutral run. It has to be on a pacifist run.
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