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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/university-president-to-students-who-feel-victimized-this-is-not-a-day-care/ar-AAfPWgi?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=iehpEverett Piper (President of Oklahoma Wesleyan U.) posted:If you want the chaplain to tell you you're a victim rather than tell you that you need virtue, this may not be the university you're looking for. If you want to complain about a sermon that makes you feel less than loving for not showing love, this might be the wrong place. I wish a non-religious school would take this sort of stand. I don't want my kids to go to a trigger warning safe space university but a church college seems a step too far in the other direction.
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I am very triggered by this
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Dec 1, 2015 18:43
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If you're expecting your kids not to develop idiotic political ideas while they're in college, then I have bad news for you.
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I wish Kurt Vonnegut were still alive so he could write a short story taking down trigger warnings. You'd think it would be covered by Harrison Bergeron but millennials are too stupid to parse the metaphor and think Harrison's character is the villain of the story.
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Zeroisanumber posted:If you're expecting your kids not to develop idiotic political ideas while they're in college, then I have bad news for you. Can't they just flirt with communism like normal people?
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Applewhite posted:I wish Kurt Vonnegut were still alive so he could write a short story taking down trigger warnings. You'd think it would be covered by Harrison Bergeron but millennials are too stupid to parse the metaphor and think Harrison's character is the villain of the story. Any of his books could trigger your average "i'm triggered" person.
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i don't think there's anything wrong with trigger warnings, which are in reality a simple way to mark blog posts for an app to identify so people don't have to read about rape or whatever if they don't want to like yeah haha goatse but I don't think there's anything wrong with people not wanting to see it and taking steps to prevent it. It's no different from when you guys use AdBlock to block particularly annoying avatars or whatever. The problem is it gets taken too far (like in the case of the pomegranate seeds guy) or when it is misinterpreted by people who don't know how the trigger warnings are actually used in conjunction with the app to hide posts they might not want to see. For example, if we all tagged every Jastiger post with #Iowa and I felt like that poo poo is annoying, I could set my poo poo to block all #Iowa posts for me. I personally wouldn't care enough and I have 0 users on my ignore list but I know that's not true for everyone here. The NWS and NMS tags are essentially trigger warnings, just a simpler version. So maybe he who is without sin cast the first stone? Maybe we don't need 3 Tumblr threads at any one time? Maybe it isn't actually cool and good to make fun of people with mental illness? Also 'I'm triggered' is hella stale. I know because my mid 30 year old friend who regurgitates memes that are old on Reddit is making trigger jokes. We can do better imo. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Dec 1, 2015 18:50
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Moridin920 posted:i don't think there's anything wrong with trigger warnings, which are in reality a simple way to mark blog posts for an app to identify so people don't have to read about rape or whatever if they don't want to Please include a trigger warning when you include a reference to rape.
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Moridin920 posted:i don't think there's anything wrong with trigger warnings, which are in reality a simple way to mark blog posts for an app to identify so people don't have to read about rape or whatever if they don't want to whose the pomegranate seeds guy
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Parallax Scroll posted:whose the pomegranate seeds guy I don't have a link or anything but some dude posted a picture of a pomegranate on his blog and someone else freaked out on him because "you didn't tag that as 'Gore' even though it isn't but it looks kinda like it if you squint your eyes right so I am now upset and demand an apology." Like that's definitely too far. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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yeah but do they have a good football team??
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Moridin920 posted:i don't think there's anything wrong with trigger warnings, which are in reality a simple way to mark blog posts for an app to identify so people don't have to read about rape or whatever if they don't want to please add tw: poo poo to all your posts
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Moridin920 posted:i don't think there's anything wrong with trigger warnings, which are in reality a simple way to mark blog posts for an app to identify so people don't have to read about rape or whatever if they don't want to I'd argue content warnings are different from different trigger warnings because content warnings are intended to alert the consumer as to the intended level of maturity required to understand and appreciate the content. Trigger warnings put the onus on the creator to protect specific people from their content and to anticipate what of their content is triggering. Those who fail to do so are often vilified, tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. It's one thing to tag your material so people who want it can find it and so people who aren't interested can move along, but being required to tag material for ideological reasons is wrong.
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Did the mention that if you are looking for a worldly view and acceptance of other religions to go to another school?
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Moridin920 posted:Like that's definitely too far. Who's to say what's "too far"? Everyone is offended by something and some people are offended by everything. If every single person's opinion is equally valid and valuable then no content ever produced is acceptable.
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Applewhite posted:Trigger warnings put the onus on the creator to protect specific people from their content and to anticipate what of their content is triggering. Those who fail to do so are often vilified, tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. It's one thing to tag your material so people who want it can find it and so people who aren't interested can move along, but being required to tag material for ideological reasons is wrong. So how is that any different from using  tags on GBS instead of just posting whatever you want? It's not ideological, some people just don't want to see genitals in their face with no warning. Someone just got banned for that. Should I just post ISIS gore videos because hey the onus is not on me to protect you from my content?Obviously we accept the function of trigger warnings, it's just a matter of degree and nomenclature. Applewhite posted:Who's to say what's "too far"? "I'll know it when I see it."
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is there a trigger warning for photos of chicks with big butts and titties and can i search by trigger warning
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Parallax Scroll posted:is there a trigger warning for photos of chicks with big butts and titties and can i search by trigger warning #pawgs
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Moridin920 posted:i don't think there's anything wrong with trigger warnings, which are in reality a simple way to mark blog posts for an app to identify so people don't have to read about rape or whatever if they don't want to Post your tumblr
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Volume posted:Post your tumblr It's just a porn blog because what else would I use tumblr for? I don't tag or trigger warning anything and have never caught any poo poo for it.
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Moridin920 posted:#pawgs Anyone who tracks #PAWGS can't be all bad. I agree to disagree with you.
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Parallax Scroll posted:is there a trigger warning for photos of chicks with big butts and titties and can i search by trigger warning One man's trigger warning is another man's treasure
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Moridin920 posted:I don't have a link or anything but some dude posted a picture of a pomegranate on his blog and someone else freaked out on him because "you didn't tag that as 'Gore' even though it isn't but it looks kinda like it if you squint your eyes right so I am now upset and demand an apology." Like that's definitely too far. 
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TW: red.
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millennials are poo poo
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Parallax Scroll posted:millennials are poo poo More likely it's a deadpan troll.
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Trigger warnings have a dual function of making special snowflakes feel catered to and harassing people making "problematic" content by steering them away from certain topics. If you're wondering why that's bad, imagine if before creating content you'd had to list every bible verse your content contradicts or infringes upon, it's the left wing version of that. The actual original use of trigger warnings - protecting real trauma victims - has long been lost but even if it wasn't there are plenty of psychologists and studies that clearly show it's bunk science and completely counterproductive even for it's original stated goal.
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Applewhite, I think you touched on something pretty good further up. A more general "hey, this is some poo poo that might make people uncomfortable" is better and more appropriate than the pandora's box of having to cater to every single potential way to upset someone- not to mention you're poo poo outta luck if somebody comes up with something totally out of left field also lmao at the president of an evangelical university claiming "this is not a day care" when evangelicals comprise some of the weirdest, most insular religious groups in the country
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Looks like a bomb to me, imo.
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Moridin920 posted:i don't think there's anything wrong with trigger warnings, which are in reality a simple way to mark blog posts for an app to identify so people don't have to read about rape or whatever if they don't want to lol yeah, trigger warnings are all about who reads a blog. because everything is about the internet because we are stupid babby nerds
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there's just no way this is real please no
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Trigger warnings on blogs aren't as big an issue as trigger warnings in academia, imo. Nobody gives or should give a gently caress about blogs. Trigger warnings in academia stifle discussion and impede personal growth.
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i scrolled to the bottom without reading any postsa nd still managed to see the word "triggeR" like 4 times at least trigger warnings are funny its like shut up idiot i dont care if you get triggered lol
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Trigger warnings are supposed to be used in a professional therapy settings, by professionals.
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PTSD is complicated and triggers for episodes are complex and not well understood, because triggers are specific to the individual's trauma. People suffering from war-related PTSD will often find loud noises that remind them of battle (coffee grinders, cars backfiring, etc) paradoxically soothing, while certain odors combined with a phrase uttered in a familiar tone that would not otherwise be offensive might set off an episode. You would be hard pressed to find someone with a diagnosis of PTSD who finds simply reading about a similar situation to be at all triggering. Many find that reading about other people surviving similar situations can be therapeutic. Treatment for simple trigger sensitivities is NOT to insulate that person from anything potentially upsetting, but to gradually (or sometimes suddenly) reintroduce triggering media into that person's life as a means of acclimating them to reality. If someone has psychological phobia of spiders, treatment might very well be to dress up like a spider and surprise them in a therapy session without warning. After the initial reaction of shock and abject terror, the individual realizes that there is no immediate threat and can begin to process whatever trauma caused the phobia in the first place. As such, so-called trigger warnings that seek to tag and filter content are not only ineffective and counterproductive, but they reduce our understanding of the unique challenges posed to a vulnerable population down to an absurd level. For the well meaning slacktivist, it's currently a popular way to feel accomplished about making the world a better place without actually expending any effort to try to understand the world around them. TL:DR Trigger warnings are anti-science and obscure the real work that people are doing to understand mental health issues, in addition to a host of Orwellian issues. Moltke fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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pr0k posted:there's just no way this is real in any case, just shut down Tumblr already
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Applewhite posted:Trigger warnings in academia stifle discussion and impede personal growth. "personal growth" and the genuine humility and introspection that it requires are exactly what too many of these morons are terrified of. your college years/twenties are when you're supposed to have that mostly knocked out of you but the miserable nerd children of the 21st century ain't havin it
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Moridin920 posted:i don't think there's anything wrong with trigger warnings, Well I can see the problem here
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I have a solution: don't go to college
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Feranon posted:"personal growth" and the genuine humility and introspection that it requires are exactly what too many of these morons are terrified of. your college years/twenties are when you're supposed to have that mostly knocked out of you but the miserable nerd children of the 21st century ain't havin it i don't think you should be pointing fingers at the miserable nerd children of the 21st century without also pointing at yourself
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