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A misanthrope posted:i dont know but i hope he's doin good he is a millennial
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Minimalist Program posted:he is a millennial your are a millennial i am a millennial we are all millennials except for genesplicer
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Dec 17, 2015 13:26
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Killed a Girl in 96 posted:i'm pretty sure you can't promote outright racism against an entire group quote:In 1969, the Supreme Court protected a Ku Klux Klan member’s racist and hate-filled speech and created the "imminent danger" test to permit hate speech. The court ruled in Brandenburg v. Ohio that; "The constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a state to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force, or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action." quote:In 2011, the Supreme Court issued their ruling on Snyder v. Phelps, which concerned the right of the Westboro Baptist Church to protest with signs found offensive by many Americans. The issue presented was whether the 1st Amendment protected the expressions written on the signs. In an 8-1 decision the court sided with Phelps, the head of Westboro Baptist Church, thereby confirming their historically strong protection of hate speech, so long as it doesn't promote imminent violence. Killed a Girl in 96 posted:so what exactly does free speech cover? political ideologies? Anything that doesn't either provoke or directly represent an imminent threat of unlawful action. Even if I say, "I'm going to kill you", that's not likely to be considered unlawful in and of itself, there would need to be something more to it than that. Like if I said it repeatedly, to multiple people, at different times, or if there was evidence I actually made plans to commit a murder.
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Dec 17, 2015 13:37
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How's Doob's new auto repair shop working out? Also, updates on hamburger steak?
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Dec 17, 2015 13:38
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:Yes, you can. You might get sued but it's mostly legal. Haha trump for prez, he won't be able to kill anyone.
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Dec 17, 2015 15:06
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Killed a Girl in 96 posted:i'm pretty sure you can't promote outright racism against an entire group kill all white ppl quote:or attempt to incite a riot no justice no peace quote:so what exactly does free speech cover? things in lock step with progressive principles, such as killing all white ppl and rioting to get your way.
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Dec 17, 2015 15:14
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I think the bottom line is that people are ignorant, stupid fucks by default regardless of what political ideology they follow. Americans in particular. Democracy doesn't work so well when all of your voters are dumb as bricks
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Dec 17, 2015 15:20
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Earwicker posted:I think we should go ahead and abolish all of the amendments. When people have rights they gently caress it all up so we should go back to having kings and emperors. Heh, that's what Rand Paul's main idea was in the last Republican Debate. (At least for those pesky A-rabs).
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Dec 17, 2015 15:26
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Gammatron 64 posted:I think the bottom line is that people are ignorant, stupid fucks by default regardless of what political ideology they follow. Americans in particular. Democracy doesn't work so well when all of your voters are dumb as bricks But that's actually how democracy is supposed to work. Give dumb people the power to elect a smart person to do things for them. It all went horribly wrong when dumb people started to get votes.
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Dec 17, 2015 15:52
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Archer666 posted:But that's actually how democracy is supposed to work. Give dumb people the power to elect a smart person to do things for them. It all went horribly wrong when dumb people started to get votes. The problem is that dumb people tend to vote for dumb people.
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Dec 17, 2015 15:53
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A related problem is that there are a lot of dumb people.
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Dec 17, 2015 15:59
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Gammatron 64 posted:The problem is that dumb people tend to vote for dumb people. The problem is that smart people don't vote because the dumb people decided to target the other dumb people for votes.
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Dec 17, 2015 16:01
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Flesh Forge posted:A related problem is that there are a lot of dumb people. In fact, probably most people. Or all of them. There are no smart people, only people who are less dumb than others. People who believe they're smart tend to be the dumbest of them all.
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Dec 17, 2015 16:22
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Fox News has always been obsessed with policing the Ivy League When I was a freshman (at Brown, I think I've said this on SA before so I'm not doxxing myself) there was a sex-themed party and Bill O'Reilly sent Jesse Watters there to videotape people's butts without permission so Bill could rant about liberals some more and Midwestern moms could tut-tut and be glad their precious little shnookums was going to a local Christian college instead He did it again a couple years ago for some student-organized nudity seminar, which is obv bad because college students are having SEX   That said the Yale poo poo going on lately is a study on What Is Wrong With Modern Identity Politics in every phase, I just wish the people to be blowing the lid off it weren't doing so under the banner of conservatism because that's only going to encourage them fake-edit: for the record, the night of the sex party in question I was baking cookies and playing Super Monkey Ball with a bunch of other wet blankets loquacius fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Dec 17, 2015 |
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Dec 17, 2015 16:34
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Archer666 posted:But that's actually how democracy is supposed to work. in other words, democracy isn't supposed to work. americans love to jack off about how democracy is supposed to be some kind of ancient greek ideal. but there was never any stable long-term athenian democracy, democracy was more something athens tried every now and then and every time they did, the government collapsed under cronyism and factionalist in-fighting within a century or two. I can only assume that it's survived as long as it has in the modern world because the american oligarchy has realised that the simplest way to control stupid people is to pretend that they have some kind of choice in the matter. the problem is our capitalist oligarchs are so shortsighted they don't realise that hurting the country for their own selfish gains is actually hurting them, too.
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Dec 17, 2015 16:42
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loquacius posted:Fox News has always been obsessed with policing the Ivy League Yeah one of the MOs of the New Right was that they had to chew away at these longstanding moderate institutions like Harvard and Yale (to a lesser extent Princeton, because of how conservative it has always been) and then try to make discourse coming from places like Liberty equivalent to the scholarship at Yale. One of the ways they do that is by belittling elite students who are interested in things like trigger warnings and social justice by mocking, misleading and misrepresenting them. Friendly reminder that the New Right is actually just protofascism, and that if you have anyone in your life subscribed to this ideology you should drown them in a rain barrel.
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:Yeah one of the MOs of the New Right was that they had to chew away at these longstanding moderate institutions like Harvard and Yale (to a lesser extent Princeton, because of how conservative it has always been) and then try to make discourse coming from places like Liberty equivalent to the scholarship at Yale. One of the ways they do that is by belittling elite students who are interested in things like trigger warnings and social justice by mocking, misleading and misrepresenting them. I dunno about all this -- it makes equally as much sense if you assume it's bog-standard anti-intellectualism plus a little sour grapes (those smart people don't like our ideology? Well they ain't so smart, look, they like having sex, how weird is that), but I wouldn't put it past the RNC et al to have a goal like this in mind. quote:Friendly reminder that the New Right is actually just protofascism, and that if you have anyone in your life subscribed to this ideology you should drown them in a rain barrel. My fiancee's cousin's babydaddy (they have a kid but are not married even though she's intensely Catholic because he is an ancap and I suspect he is a red-piller) tried to argue against the ideal of democracy at Thanksgiving this year I'd had three Southern Tier Pumkings (ABV: 8.6%) to his zero and I still managed to win the argument because it is a bullshit ideology
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loquacius posted:I dunno about all this -- it makes equally as much sense if you assume it's bog-standard anti-intellectualism plus a little sour grapes (those smart people don't like our ideology? Well they ain't so smart, look, they like having sex, how weird is that), but I wouldn't put it past the RNC et al to have a goal like this in mind. I'm not any kind of conspiracy theorist but the New Right movement, complete with their own 24 hour news cycle, think tanks, universities, facts and - eventually - "truth" is a well documented phenomenon in American politics.
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A misanthrope posted:op aren't you like 19? fox news is for the OLD white bigots also sometimes the CNN app pops up alerts on my phone and i catch a quick glimpse of whatever country had a suicide bombing today
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Glad to see Leno's "Jay-walking" bit has been stolen by conservative media
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Jimmy Kimmel did a thing a while ago where he went out and got women to sign a petition to end women's suffrage, because "suffrage" doesn't sound like a good thing and a lot of people don't know what it means
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The American right wing has been batshit loving insane since the rise of the 24-hour news cycle and talk radio, and it's a goddamn shame that the left is starting to join them after the rise of blogs, twitter and tumblr. Whenever I see people talking politics, I get the impression that we live in a country of irrational, screaming lunatics. The inmates are running the asylum.
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Dec 17, 2015 20:07
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you maniacs... america was designed to be a constitutional republic. you can thank your "intellectual" forebears in the progressive movement for giving the landless, the vagina-having, the melanin-enhanced, and all other sorts of useless soft-brained layabouts the frucking franchise ah drat you drat you all to hell!
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students at elite universities are dumb babies, this is news to no one they'll graduate and they'll either grow out of it or they'll stay in academia growing fringier and more irrelevant
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Dec 17, 2015 20:27
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Gammatron 64 posted:The American right wing has been batshit loving insane since the rise of the 24-hour news cycle and talk radio, and it's a goddamn shame that the left is starting to join them after the rise of blogs, twitter and tumblr. Whenever I see people talking politics, I get the impression that we live in a country of irrational, screaming lunatics. The inmates are running the asylum. you lost me  so you are saying that since you are a sociopath we should give human rights to non-americans? dime bag darren would roll over in his grave. you need to check your privledges at the coat check on oyur way into the freakin mental ward, virgin.
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i'm pretty sure when i was an undergrad if someone had circulated a petition calling for the grinding of 1 in every 4 new babies into nutritious mush i woulda gone lol and signed it as weedlord bonerhitler
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Dec 17, 2015 20:33
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i once signed a petition to commission the the raising of the U.S.S. arizona and also the razing of arizona.
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Dec 17, 2015 20:35
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Drink Cheerwine posted:you maniacs... america was designed to be a constitutional republic. i say *puffs tobacco*
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Hahahah, that guy, the jew guy from the story, is named AMY!!! hahahaha/!
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dad gay. so what posted:i once signed a petition to commission the the raising of the U.S.S. arizona and also the razing of arizona.
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dad gay. so what posted:i once signed a petition to commission the the raising of the U.S.S. arizona and also the razing of arizona. The Coen brothers make good films.
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Dec 18, 2015 06:42
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Killed a Girl in 96 posted:i dont want to read a bunch of legal documents on the US constitution, but isn't free speech not entirely protected anyways? like you can't just go around saying whatever you want. you can't threaten the life of the president, you can't make oral contracts and then back out, and i'm pretty sure you can't promote outright racism against an entire group or attempt to incite a riot. so what exactly does free speech cover? political ideologies? more or less, and religions the most egregious cases against free speech though that are still good law are against communists, so that's the no-no political ideology
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Kitchner posted:What is it with news websites and videos these days? I don't want to watch a lovely loving video, tell me what the petition said and give me some quotes of why students said they supported it. 
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:Friendly reminder that the New Right is actually just protofascism, and that if you have anyone in your life subscribed to this ideology you should drown them in a rain barrel. Friendly reminder that the young wannabe left is also full of rabid [trigger warning: bad words] oppressive authoritarians except they haven't been running things yet so gently caress em both
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Dec 18, 2015 11:08
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Haier posted:LOL @ people who say this. They're cops so it's ok.
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omg look at that douche 
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Roy posted:omg look at that douche get that OUT of my face fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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nomadologique posted:"do you wan to sign a petition?" Yeah pretty much- "As a college student, I like to be INVOLVED and also as a Millenial I like to see my name on things" SlipUp posted:I remember my freshman year. Some lunatic killed a dog by dragged it behind his truck, the next day the resident SJW was out with a petition she did up in like 30 minutes in excel. lol ArbitraryC posted:I seriously see people complain about unformatted walls of text with a post that's literally a single paragraph with a couple of sentences. Its like people have gotten used to how many words they can see on their cellphone screen at a given time and think anything past that is longwinded. Yeah it's really annoying and I think you've hit the reason for it on the head. It's sad how most English classes I'm in for have switched from novels to novellas because students won't and/or can't read for long lengths of time, and they're not going to read at home. I was in for English 12 class a few weeks ago and they were reading Animal Farm and the months-away-from-graduating students told me that they couldn't understand what the characters were saying to each other haha
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