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Speedball posted:Yeah! I remember that from way back when I originally played this game! With a note next to the minefield by Bruno saying, "Sometimes you need to wait for the right equipment to go everywhere." Close! When Bruno died there was a book next to him that I couldn't photograph since I didn't have the camera glasses and the note said sometimes you need other gadgets. The note next to the minefield was from Volkov and it said that if any idiots somehow managed to survive stepping into the minefield, he would make sure they didn't survive it for long.
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Point is, Scruffy's hopefully gonna do an intel roundup for stuff like that. 
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Well, I don't think that encryption is a basic substitution cipher, forwards or backwards, which means it's out of my league. Does anyone with proper codebreaking ability want to take a crack at it? (The only code intel I remember seeing is the second one, "pmlxp vn lfg gsv ylc ofpv") I suppose it could be a Vigenere cipher using HARM as the key maybe? Not sure what else they'd use as the key, and it's traditionally quite tricky to decode something without its key. ...Dammit, now I'm actually putting in some effort. I just checked, and it can't be a straightforward Vigenere cipher using HARM because every fourth letter would be plaintext (with 'a' as its key) and that seems to generate gibberish. Seriously, anyone who's good with codes would be much appreciated right now.
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Well, I'm terrible at everything, but it doesn't appear to be a Caesar Cipher.
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Could it be that the different encoded messages need to be put together to form a coherent whole?
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I can tell you it's an easily decrypted cipher, and it's not complicated  I looked stuff up between recordings.
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I think you just didn't get close enough with the body removal powder. Best to get right over the body and dump the powder as close as possible.
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WFGuy posted:Seriously, anyone who's good with codes would be much appreciated right now. It was pointed out earlier in the thread , the encrypted stuff is just an Atbash cipher; you just reverse the alphabet so A becomes Z and B becomes Y then so forth down the line. "pmlxp vn lfg gsv ylc ofpv" becomes "knock em out the box Luke"
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A Darker Porpoise posted:It was pointed out earlier in the thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=493ljyoox6o
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The cipher used is actually the same one as in the last mission that had one, see my previous post in this thread to figure out what kind of cipher it is and then it's easy enough to find a decoder.
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A Darker Porpoise posted:It was pointed out earlier in the thread Welp, I'm a dummy. Thanks to you and Smart Car for pointing that out. (If anyone else missed the first Atbash code, it was in Rendezvous in Hamburg, Scene 2. "kzfo rh wvzw") I will now have the Star Wars Gangsta Rap in my head for a few days again.
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At last, the face of the man himself is revealed. A Man Of Influence Scene 3/Polsy If you're curious about how it goes if you decide to not cut the Baron any slack on your questioning, try A Man Of Wealth, No Taste. dscruffy1 fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Dec 23, 2015 |
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Dec 23, 2015 19:04
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That bit about pandas is probably going to haunt me for the rest of my life. Bristol equals pandas, no escaping that association.
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Dec 23, 2015 19:15
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This guy is amazing.
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That Butler is as wonderful as I remember.
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Dec 23, 2015 19:45
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After having no dialogue choices for so long, they throw a dozen at you and they actually matter a bit. I'm not sure if I should be pleased by their return, or a bit upset at the pacing.
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It seems fairly unlikely that he is the mastermind behind H.A.R.M., unless it's all part of a grand scheme to allow them free access to every country to capture animals so he can brutally slaughter them.
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Poil posted:It seems fairly unlikely that he is the mastermind behind H.A.R.M., unless it's all part of a grand scheme to allow them free access to every country to capture animals so he can brutally slaughter them.
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anilEhilated posted:That bit about pandas is probably going to haunt me for the rest of my life. Bristol equals pandas, no escaping that association. I was living in Bristol when I first played this game. As it happens, at the time we did get a lot of people too dumb for Oxbridge but too refined for a common university, so there were quite a few events management companies, "management training" groups, etc catering to the cash-rich-but-competence-poor crowd. It didn't require much suspension of disbelief to imagine him waddling through Clifton with an elephant gun and a full complement of native bearers. EDIT: Hey dscruffy, if you're going to replay the level to check out the ammo box, then also try jumping on the empty flat cars as the train goes past and letting it carry you outside the level. There's an entertaining little sight-gag and it doesn't kill you. There's a different one if you try it a second time, too! Loxbourne fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Dec 23, 2015 |
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That's the most hilarious image of native bearers I've ever heard of.
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Years ago, lost to time, there used to be a Flash animation show on the web called "The God and Devil Show," about the two of them as talk-show hosts. In one, they go to some sort of Heston-owned shooting gallery and God is trying to shoot fish in a barrel, literally. He's got a couple of pistols and is cross-eyeing the fish and missing his shots. "This isn't as easy as people say it is!" Meanwhile, the Devil expertly shoots her fish with an assault rifle. I get the feeling Baron Dumas is not so different.
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The sad thing is that butler gets very little screen time. 
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Considering the Baron's wide...breadth of experience, an expedition to the front lawn might be quite the arduous trek. They really laid it on thick with the incompetency, didn't they? It's a marvel that his company survives under his supervision at all.
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Blastinus posted:Considering the Baron's wide...breadth of experience, an expedition to the front lawn might be quite the arduous trek. They really laid it on thick with the incompetency, didn't they? It's a marvel that his company survives under his supervision at all. He said it didn't. He has money but lets someone else make all the decisions. I think he's a puppet leader. ...no relation to the actual puppet leader of HARM we've already seen.
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Speedball posted:He said it didn't. He has money but lets someone else make all the decisions. I think he's a puppet leader. You know, this would be the perfect game where "The Butler did it!" would be the perfect capstone to the whole thing. I mean, the Baron didn't name who was running the company in his stead, right?
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berryjon posted:You know, this would be the perfect game where "The Butler did it!" would be the perfect capstone to the whole thing. I mean, the Baron didn't name who was running the company in his stead, right?
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And since it's the 60s you can also do the twist while it happens.Speedball posted:He said it didn't. He has money but lets someone else make all the decisions. I think he's a puppet leader. Poil fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Dec 24, 2015 |
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Dec 24, 2015 11:15
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What kind of crazy person would dare brave the lasers and poison gas to get into Dumas' safe? A former cat burglar turned spy trying to prove herself in a man's world? Please. I recall the upcoming level pretty fondly, even though it took me a couple of tries to get through it.
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Funny enough for the Baron, an elephant was actually killed with a .22 rifle by Peter Hathaway Capstick. He was working in Kenya for the government, culling herds and killing rampaging elephants. He did it on a bet, as he knew one specific spot (behind the foreleg where friction rubs the hide thinner) where an artery was just under the hide.
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It's Christmas and I've got obligations today. So! Please have a T-T-T-TRIPLE UPDATE. Nevermind that two of the videos are pretty short. Further Investigation Required Scene 1/Polsy Safecracker Scene 1/Polsy Scene 2/Polsy
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Safecracker 2 is like the worst and stupidest mission in the game. It makes absolutely no sense at all. I mean, the impression from the briefings is that you're supposed to try and go undetected, and yet there's a freaking boss fight in the middle. With no dialogue acknowledging it before or after. You're just dropped right in, and afterwards no one acknowledges that it happens. Why, why would Inge be hanging out randomly on a building under construction in the loving middle of the night. After this gun battle with lots of H.A.R.M. agents, you're right back to stealth and NO ALARMS OR YOU FAIL. Still on the building under construction. Godawful. It's so utterly bizarre that my take on that is that during development, it turned out that they wrote the whole game and then accidentally realized that they completely forgot about Inge after The Dive, then they hurriedly added in this ridiculous level to write her out. She's never mentioned again. Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Dec 25, 2015 |
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Or they had something more complicated in mind, but had to cut it unexpectedly and went with Safecracker 2 as a way to use the logic they'd coded. It is a pretty cool setpiece.
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The Valkyrie connection isn't all that out there, she's related to Wagner and her club was called the Einsame Valkyrie. Plus guess what's the music blasting at you in the bossfight. Besides, a lot of the mythology is shared - Odin and Wotan, that kind of stuff. Definitely close enough for some godawful operas. I never really minded this level; by now you can now that unless explicitly told, all breaking stealth does is making the game more difficult. Plus the actual safe bit is utterly awesome.
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I remember the Inge Wagner boss fight. Pain in the butt to get through and completely broke the mood of the level. Not only that, it was the first time I had to look at an online guide for how to beat a boss. There is nothing that tells you the trick of turning on the radio and then the electricity. It would have been so much better if the elevator had stopped suddenly and you would have been met with the following scene: [2 HARM Guards are pointing their guns at Cate, who immediately raises her hands] HARM Guard #1: Ah ha, I thought someone was sneaking around using that supposedly powered-down lift! HARM Guard #2: Wait, Bob, don't shoot her! Bob: Why not, Dick? Dick: She could be exactly what we need. Listen, lady, you're an intruder, right? You don't want anyone to know you were here? Cate: Let's say I don't. Go on. Dick: There's this horrible woman, Inge Wagner. The organization we work for makes us listen to her god-awful singing all the time. Bob and I are really sick of it. Bob: Yeah, and the worst part is, she uses this construction site to practice for her motivational concerts. Dick and I got to listen to her wailing while we stand guard. There are some other guys here who actually like her singing- weirdos- but we don't! Dick: We're really sick of it! We can't take it anymore! Cate: So... Dick: So we want her to have an 'accident' tonight, if you know what I mean. This construction site is dangerous, fatal accidents happen all the time. There's no surveillance cameras on this floor, Inge claims they interfere with her vibe or something. The only electronics she allows are the lights and the battery-powered radio for her background music. With no cameras, an accident is pretty easy to arrange. Bob: I was able to spill a barrel of water around her radio earlier today and place a loose cable in the water- to shock her, you know? But some of her fans saw me do that and they're being very attentive now. I had to cut the power to the cable and promise to clean things up after she's done practicing. We want Inge dead, but we don't want to get caught, you dig? Cate: Why don't you just shoot her and them, then cover things up? Dick: We thought about that, but HARM makes us account for every bullet we fire! No way we could hide using so many! Bob: It also doesn't help that Inge practices in full costume as a Wagnerian Valkyrie! Bullets of all types bounce right off her! Our pal Jim tried shooting her last week and you don't want to know what happened to him! Dick: So, look, we'll make you a deal. You take out Inge using our setup. Drop her fans too, we can hide the bodies no trouble. People quit groups like ours all the time, nobody will care if they disappear. You do this, we'll cover up that you were here and let you go on to wherever you were headed. Cate: Really? Bob: Yeah, it'll be worth it to get rid of that woman! [shudders] Just don't ask us for backup- like Dick said, we wouldn't be able to account for our bullets. You'll have to kill her and her fans all by yourself. Dick: So, we got a deal? Cate: I suppose. [Inge starts singing nearby] Bob: drat! She's started! Ok, lady, here goes. You shoot her fans and stay away from her. When you get the chance, turn her radio off to lure her into turning it back on, she won't fight without her music. When she goes to turn it on again, hit that switch there and shock her with our rigged cable. Dick and I will hide here ready to clean things up when you're done! Dick: Sorry we can't pull the switch for you. If we're seen, our goose is cooked! Cate: And if the first shock isn't enough to kill her? [Bob and Dick look at each other] Bob: Um, just keep turning off the radio. She has to have her music, and she'll keep turning it back on no matter the danger! Dick: Good luck, Miss, and thanks! [Cate grimaces and goes to handle the boss fight. The level then proceeds as normal.] That would have tied things together nicely. Bob and Dick could have even been recurring characters in later levels who would have helped fill in plot holes and aid Cate with nasty situations like this now and again. Even without them, it's still a fantastic game.
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Maybe the traitor tipped Inge off and that's why she's there. It's the best I can think of.  Oh yeah, and in real life crossbows are not silent. They are quieter than guns yes but they are quite noticeable. Poil fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Dec 25, 2015 |
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Am I the only one thinking that the codebreaker schematics on the wall in Santa's Workshop is just their concept art pasted on the wall?
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Welp, bye Inge. You were kind of a throw-away joke. Speaking of throw-away jokes, more of the Elite Guard sitting around being bored. Not all of the running gags in this game have worthwhile payoffs.
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IMJack posted:Speaking of throw-away jokes, more of the Elite Guard sitting around being bored. Not all of the running gags in this game have worthwhile payoffs.
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I wonder why she is named Inge instead of Inga. Inge is a man's name after all, at least in Scandinavia.
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Inge is a female name in Swedish.
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