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Oberleutnant posted:And yet you complain about people being unkind to you. When did I complain about people being unkind to me?
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JeremoudPissflapejad posted:Reminds me of Pissflaps
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Pissflaps posted:I've been on the receiving end of abuse and unkind words from this thread for some time now. I will not allow it to impinge upon my principles. Pissflaps posted:When did I complain about people being unkind to me?
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Clearly Pissflaps just needs to work on managing the thread's view on him better, if he can't manage effectively what people think of his posting then he should resign his account and let someone else take it over
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Dec 28, 2015 23:48
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pissflaps for not the mod ukmt needs but the mod ukmt deserves
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Angepain posted:Clearly Pissflaps just needs to work on managing the thread's view on him better, if he can't manage effectively what people think of his posting then he should resign his account and let someone else take it over Anybody but 'Flaps bandwagon.
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No that's not me complaining. That's me pointing out how the threat of being abused by this thread hasn't stopped me from posting my opinion in the past.
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thespaceinvader posted:It's really not though. It's that it's POSSIBLE. I've never claimed it's a guarantee I've claimed its a possible avenue to victory. Cerebral Bore posted:The crux of your argument is that you're literally demanding the impossible. its only even possible to win 2020 if he capitalizes on the gains today he hasn't and nothing he's done in the last 3-4 months since his win in the leadership elections gives me any faith that he can create the electoral machine needed to defeat the inbuilt tory advantage in 2020. he cant even keep his shadow cabinet on message, momentum is languishing and he's unpopular in the general electorate
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only 27% of britgoons think pissflaps will defend their posting integrity
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Pissflaps posted:No that's not me complaining. That's me pointing out how the threat of being abused by this thread hasn't stopped me from posting my opinion in the past. gently caress off, Pissflaps.
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Dec 28, 2015 23:51
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blowfish posted:only 27% of britgoons think pissflaps will defend their posting integrity flaps we can
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Malcolm XML posted:its only even possible to win 2020 if he capitalizes on the gains today labour would probably be less of a dumpster fire if the plp had switched on their brains before running their mouths
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Gonzo McFee posted:gently caress off, Pissflaps. I understand why you're like this and I will not condemn you for it. blowfish posted:labour would probably be less of a dumpster fire if the plp had switched on their brains before running their mouths I don't think Corbyn's unpopularity is because of a Labour MP criticising him in the papers.
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Gonzo McFee posted:You don't have principles. Dedication to derailing threads into pages of pedanticism is a principle of a sort.
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blowfish posted:labour would probably be less of a dumpster fire if the plp had switched on their brains before running their mouths if only there were a mechanism by which a party leader could control his/her MPs
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Malcolm XML posted:he hasn't and nothing he's done in the last 3-4 months since his win in the leadership elections gives me any faith that he can create the electoral machine needed to defeat the inbuilt tory advantage in 2020. he cant even keep his shadow cabinet on message, momentum is languishing and he's unpopular in the general electorate What opportunities has he had to do so, exactly? Bearing in mind that it takes at least a year for official Labour policies to come into existence, and you've for some reason already discounted a convincing by-election victory as evidence.
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Malcolm XML posted:if only there were a mechanism by which a party leader could control his/her MPs PURGES
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Noxville posted:Dedication to derailing threads into pages of pedanticism is a principle of a sort. It takes two to tango and the horde of posters dedicated to joining him in the descent to utter tedium are just as bad.
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Malcolm XML posted:if only there were a mechanism by which a party leader can control his members yes we get it corbyn is not the typical career politician and naively believes in basic democracy and stuff
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thespaceinvader posted:Bearing in mind that it takes at least a year for official Labour policies to come into existence, and you've for some reason already discounted a convincing by-election victory as evidence. What is it evidence of?
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serious gaylord posted:It takes two to tango and the horde of posters dedicated to joining him in the descent to utter tedium are just as bad.
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that corbyn does not magically cost labour votes by merely existing i guess
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thespaceinvader posted:
are you seriously not discounting a by-election held in a labour stronghold with a split opposition as evidence for a broad 2020 victory?
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Pissflaps posted:What is it evidence of? The ability for the Labour party to win elections under his leadership. Malcolm XML posted:this is a problem w/ labour that Jeremy "jez we can" Corbyn can and should have fixed No, he couldn't have fixed that yet. He MIGHT be able to at the next Conference, but he can't, wouldn't, and shouldn't even if he could and would, run roughshod over the established party procedures, and he can't change them without the approval of the party which happens at Conference. Give him a loving chance, seriously, it is literally not legally possible to change Labour procedures that quickly. I'm saying that evidence that the party under his leadership can win elections is evidence that the party under his leadership can win elections. No more, no less. It was the party's to lose, everyone was predicting that it would go horribly for Labour, and they increased their vote share, mostly as I understand it by means of a strong ground game from dedicated activists of exactly the sort I'm suggesting might help. It's not a guarantee of victory, by any means, but it's evidence that Labour can use its means to win elections without compromising its principles. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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thespaceinvader posted:The ability for the Labour party to win elections under his leadership. I think Corbyn is bad but even I don't think the Labour party would win no seats under his leadership in 2020.
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Dec 28, 2015 23:58
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If Labour had lost Oldham I'm sure the doom and gloom posters would be equally insistent about that result not really meaning anything.
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Pissflaps posted:I think Corbyn is bad but even I don't think the Labour party would win no seats under his leadership in 2020. Moan moan moan. It's all you do when you're not complaining about people being unkind to you.
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lfield posted:If Labour had lost Oldham I'm sure the doom and gloom posters would be equally insistent about that result not really meaning anything. Alas, the North very selfishly went and got flooded and everybody seems to have forgotten about her.
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It's telling that, on a slow news day like today, I can see 250+ new posts and know straight away that Pissflaps is on the forums this evening.
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You know which JC had a beard and stood by his leftist principles and was hounded by the establishment for it?Malcolm XML posted:what has he done in oldham that can be generalized to somerset or london or cambridge or scotland? not much. Massively beat expectations?
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The thread finds itself devided into Oberleutnant's holy Marxist Corbynisters Vs The Blarite order of Pissflaptania
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baka kaba posted:You know which JC had a beard and stood by his leftist principles and was hounded by the establishment for it? John Cena never had a beard.
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Regarde Aduck posted:The thread finds itself devided into Oberleutnant's holy Marxist Corbynisters Vs The Blarite order of Pissflaptania I wouldn't call myself a Corbynista exactly. He's not left wing enough for me personally, but he feels like the right balance for a mass party leader.
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Gonzo McFee posted:John Cena never had a beard. The internet informs me this is a lie. You know which other JC is misrepresented with lies??
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Oberleutnant posted:I wouldn't call myself a Corbynista exactly. He's not left wing enough for me personally, but he feels like the right balance for a mass party leader. To be clear I was using it in a positive light anyway. The Blairite armies are basically orcs.
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Oh hey. The Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards has confirmed there will be no investigation into Lucy Allan's conduct as of 18th of this month. I don't recall seeing that in the thread. So that's just great.
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Dec 29, 2015 00:18
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Corbyn should definitely come out to Cena's music.
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Oberleutnant posted:Oh hey. The Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards has confirmed there will be no investigation into Lucy Allan's conduct as of 18th of this month. I think someone else in this thread pointed out that her seat was a very close thing so they won't chance a byelection. Sounds legit.
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Regarde Aduck posted:I think someone else in this thread pointed out that her seat was a very close thing so they won't chance a byelection. Sounds legit. Yeah she scraped by on something like 700 votes, and the Parliamentary Commissioner is appointed by the commons and has historically been completely toothless including having commissioners bullied out of the post for daring to suggest investigating MPs.
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