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jabby posted:Do you mean 'these people' the press or 'these people' Labour MPs? Not expecting her to read JC's mind, but you would expect it to have come up in conversation between the two of them.
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Hitchens side-along... Well, I'm not sure 'support' is the word, but affectations towards Corbyn is still one of the more surreal parts of it all.
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tentish klown posted:They need media training. All of them. And someone like Mandelson to whip them into shape and stop them saying stupid things. Wasn't that Campbell not Mandelson? But still yeah, this is embarrassing.
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El Scotch posted:Hitchens side-along... Well, I'm not sure 'support' is the word, but affectations towards Corbyn is still one of the more surreal parts of it all.
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Puntification posted:Wasn't that Campbell not Mandelson? But still yeah, this is embarrassing. Sorry, wrong Sith Lord.
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Cerv posted:"I don't know why Jeremy gave me this job" - our new shadow defence secretary. I paid her to say that to annoy pissflaps
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El Scotch posted:Hitchens side-along... Well, I'm not sure 'support' is the word, but affectations towards Corbyn is still one of the more surreal parts of it all. Hitchens I think considers himself a man of principle and see Corbyn as the same even if there's little overlap in those principles. You can't say the same thing of Call Me Dave or of the vast majority of the intake of either party during the Blair years.
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So a local pub/venue that's basically been the heart of Norwich's music scene since it opened a few years ago just got bought out by a caricature of capitalist scum in order to build a block of flats or some poo poo. This is the story in the owner's own words... My question to people that might know, how legal is this loving travesty?
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Whorelord posted:So a local pub/venue that's basically been the heart of Norwich's music scene since it opened a few years ago just got bought out by a caricature of capitalist scum in order to build a block of flats or some poo poo. This is the story in the owner's own words... My question to people that might know, how legal is this loving travesty? Don't be silly, everyone knows the Waterfront is the heart of Norwich's music scene.... In all seriousness this is rubbish though 
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Whorelord posted:So a local pub/venue that's basically been the heart of Norwich's music scene since it opened a few years ago just got bought out by a caricature of capitalist scum in order to build a block of flats or some poo poo. This is the story in the owner's own words... My question to people that might know, how legal is this loving travesty? The legal reality of this may be different to what that post suggests. According to the person at the centre of this, the lease that the Owl Sanctuary has was a fixed term, with no option for extension in the lease agreement, and it expires in March. They're not being kicked out, or bought out - their lease has expired, in accordance with the contract they signed with the old owner. He may be bending the truth of course, but that sounds like a slightly more plausible version of events. In a sidenote, I think I'm randomly going to be moving to Norwich for a job - what's it like?
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Prince John posted:The legal reality of this may be different to what that post suggests. poo poo.
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Whorelord posted:So a local pub/venue that's basically been the heart of Norwich's music scene since it opened a few years ago just got bought out by a caricature of capitalist scum in order to build a block of flats or some poo poo. This is the story in the owner's own words... My question to people that might know, how legal is this loving travesty? This does seem a bit odd as the building next to the Marquee (yes i am that old you loving hipster) is a listed building so the chance of him being able to do anything to that is small and the space behind the building isn't very big so he couldn't get many flats behind it (plus the archtects next door will cause issues). The footpath between the two buildings could very well be argued to be a right of way so can't be blocked and the pedstrian crossing makes getting into the site very difficult without tearing up the road and moving things that can't easily be moved. Either the developer is an idiot or something else is going on.
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I went to Norwich just to have a look at it last year. It's an isolated city, which has allowed it to retain a lot more individual character than other places. It's got tonnes of medieval buildings and churches in the centre and a ginormous cathedral. Lots of good pubs, an old-fashioned market and, slightly incongruously, loads of strip clubs (I was puzzled by this until I realised Norwich must be the only place within a 30 mile radius where this sort of thing is available for stag nights etc). I imagine you wouldn't have to live there too long before your boundaries started to shrink and the rest of the Uk began to seem a looooong way away.
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Foxtrot_13 posted:Either the developer is an idiot or something else is going on. As this deal involves property, there is indeed a high probability that the developer is an idiot.
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Pistol_Pete posted:As this deal involves property, there is indeed a high probability that the developer is an idiot. The area within Rose Lane, Mountagate and King Street is being completely flattened and redeveloped with two large office buildings, a warehouse, a car park and some light industrial units being torn down to be replaced with a multi-storey carpark and housing. Maybe the developer is thinking the Marquee would make a decent investment as it is only a hundred meters from all this. The local rag has more info and a statement from the guy http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/campaign_launched_to_save_the_owl_sanctuary_in_norwich_from_closure_1_4371557
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There will be something else going on, if a big build is being planned, the developer has a lot of money and knows enough influential local figures they well get to build no matter what is done. The pub I work at is for the second time trying to block planning permission for a block of luxury apartments next door. They're fighting this as the pubs trade is based largely on its beer garden and flats will result in noise complaints, the garden having to close early and the loss of the businesses viability. Local residents and businesses are opposed and the Moseley Society who basically run the suburb are opposed. This is the second time planning permission has been applied for as the developers let it expire and have since sold it to a new developer who are reapplying. The first application a similar campaign was fought and in the hearing planning permission was voted down, however a private sidebar was quickly called and planning permission was granted. With big property builds the developers are going to get what they want.
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Whorelord posted:So a local pub/venue that's basically been the heart of Norwich's music scene since it opened a few years ago just got bought out by a caricature of capitalist scum in order to build a block of flats or some poo poo. This is the story in the owner's own words... My question to people that might know, how legal is this loving travesty?
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Pistol_Pete posted:I went to Norwich just to have a look at it last year. It's an isolated city, which has allowed it to retain a lot more individual character than other places. It's got tonnes of medieval buildings and churches in the centre and a ginormous cathedral. Lots of good pubs, an old-fashioned market and, slightly incongruously, loads of strip clubs (I was puzzled by this until I realised Norwich must be the only place within a 30 mile radius where this sort of thing is available for stag nights etc). As someone whose lived in Norwich all their life I kind of have to disagree a out the isolation and shrinking boundaries thing. You're two hours away from London on the train/driving which is no more than somewhere like Bristol.
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Libel and slander That's people from Yarmouth
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Norwich is basically Innsmouth.
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Again, that's Yarmouth. Norwich is actually good.
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Oberleutnant posted:So the BBC, in its chase for a political scoop, convinced one of the Labour shadow ministers to resign live on air 5 minutes before PMQs started, ensuring that it would cause the maximum amount of damage: the cached version of the BBC blog is: [url]http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:tCufUeYIpA4J:https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/collegeofjournalism/entries/82a00c77-c0cc-4e79-99ca-25e9c21d01a7+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk[/url] [/quote] Just to pop this bullshit back up again, for someone who's apparently keeping her head down... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35258182 Laura Kuenssberg loving hates Corbyn with a disturbing amount of passion. Goddamn that's a good line and an impressive control of the interview from, to be fair, someone no doubt very used to giving difficult to swallow information to people not interested in hearing it. E: again: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12088804/Nigel-Farage-I-made-a-terrible-terrible-mistake-over-assassination-attempt-claims.html Farage has twigged that people realised he just didn't bother to listen to the recall notice. But on a much sadder note http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-35268713 breaking news about a shooting in an Egyptian hotel. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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The last part is the bit that got me: "ultimately, do you want to seen by someone at the end of a hundred hour shift?". Silence, then "err, well, that is a question that I'm sure many other of your colleagues will be asking as this debate continues", which is so obviously a canned response to end the interview it's unreal. Stuck the ending nicely.
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thespaceinvader posted:Laura Kuenssberg loving hates Corbyn with a disturbing amount of passion. Man that's a pretty terrible piece, and this quote:It's not clear that the levels of drama really merit four departures is a bit loving rich given her role in one of those departures.
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StoneOfShame posted:There will be something else going on, if a big build is being planned, the developer has a lot of money and knows enough influential local figures they well get to build no matter what is done. The pub I work at is for the second time trying to block planning permission for a block of luxury apartments next door. They're fighting this as the pubs trade is based largely on its beer garden and flats will result in noise complaints, the garden having to close early and the loss of the businesses viability. Local residents and businesses are opposed and the Moseley Society who basically run the suburb are opposed. This is the second time planning permission has been applied for as the developers let it expire and have since sold it to a new developer who are reapplying. The first application a similar campaign was fought and in the hearing planning permission was voted down, however a private sidebar was quickly called and planning permission was granted. With big property builds the developers are going to get what they want. Wait, you work at the PoW?
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lol https://twitter.com/eyespymp/status/685470941078511617quote:Authentic Northern working-class @MichaelDugher and @DPJHodges in the Bar at the Groucho. I await the next Dan Hodges anti Corbyn hit piece with glee.
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Well anyone wondering if the BBC thing would get buried, apparently someone noticed. That someone being the Labour Party. http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/labour-complains-about-shadow-ministers-resignation-on-bbc/ quote:The Labour party has this evening complained about the BBC arranging for Stephen Doughty to announce his resignation on the Daily Politics. A spokesperson for Jeremy Corbyn said: It's a pretty good wording of it and interestingly contradicts the MP's claim that he sent in his resignation first before chatting with the BBC. I don't think this is going away now. Fans fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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OzyMandrill posted:Good riddance tho. My guess is new minister thought he could get some coverage and that everyone else would join him, first of the rebels or something. Now the big rebellion hasn't appeared, he probably feels a bit of a prat right now. "And then everyone stood up and clapped, and that minister's name was Albert Einstein."
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LemonDrizzle posted:If the old owners violated the terms of the tenant's lease when selling up, the tenant will be able to sue for compensation. However, it's very unlikely that they'll be able to force a reversal of the sale. Indeed. I can't imagine a lease would be written up so as to prevent the freeholder from selling up, and anything more than that's going to be down to the leasehold agreement. In any case if its a pub that no one actually uses as a residence its almost certainly going to be civil law rather than criminal, so probably a matter of how much money the new buyer is willing to throw at the problem to make it go away. (Disclaimer: Not a lawyer.)
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Fans posted:Well anyone wondering if the BBC thing would get buried, apparently someone noticed. That someone being the Labour Party. Hardman was calling people crazy conspiracy theorists for suggesting that what the beeb did was wrong, last night.
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Oberleutnant posted:Hardman was calling people crazy conspiracy theorists for suggesting that what the beeb did was wrong, last night. now if twitterbot was functional it could spam those words at his article, as well as call him a oval office, to make the point. I hope Labour burn them to the ground and the BBC is forced back sharply into its role as an ethical journalistic enterprise, but that's fantasy talk.
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Oberleutnant posted:Hardman was calling people crazy conspiracy theorists for suggesting that what the beeb did was wrong, last night.  Well now Isabel...
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35252472The BBC posted:Independent schools should be required to provide more support for local state schools as a condition of their charitable status, according to proposals from the Labour party. If they already meet these requirements then why are they so angry about them?
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Lord of the Llamas posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35252472 What they probably mean is that many private schools share sports facilities (or, more precisely, let people rent them over the weekends when no-ones in school) Music? Arts? Drama? Those are parts of the actual school! Can't have any non-feepayers going near those. It is pretty rediculus that private schools don't pay any tax and can claim to be charities, simply because they are not designed to make profits for their owners.
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shrike82 posted:Hopefully this results in further funding cuts at the BBC It's one of those weird situations. I do happen to, on a very personal level, love the BBC. Always have. That's why it saddens me when they resort to poo poo like this. There definitely needs to be some sort of reprisal, because they very clearly hosed up, and that is never acceptable, but they're in such a state that those who wish to destroy it find it that much easier to do so. It's a real damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
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Ddraig posted:It's one of those weird situations. I do happen to, on a very personal level, love the BBC. Always have. That's why it saddens me when they resort to poo poo like this. Seriously. Someone should loving hang for this, but you can guarantee that if anything happens at all, the people responsible won't, and the BBC as a whole will.
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