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Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
loving Hell.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...er-wellies.html

quote:

Socialist Nicola Sturgeon steps out in £179 Barbour jacket and £130 Hunter wellies

While David Cameron buys £12.99 ASDA boots to look like a man of the people


It was perhaps a shock to see Nicola Sturgeon's outfit as she visited Port Elphinstone near Inverurie after the area was hit by floods.

Hundreds of people were evacuated in Aberdeenshire after the Rivers Dee, Don and Ythan burst their banks in the early hours of Friday.

Nicola Sturgeon went to visit, wearing what is known as the countryside outfit of the rich, a toff uniform perhaps.

The First Minister was looking very sophisticated in a Barbour jacket and Hunter wellington boots.

The jacket she was wearing is this Barbour international number, and it costs a pricey £179.

If you want to steal her style, you're out of luck, as it is currently sold out.

Her wellies appear to be the "Women's Balmoral Lady Neoprene Wellington Boots", at £130.

She either keeps her wellingtons very clean, or they are fresh out of the box.

Perhaps this means David Cameron needn't have worried about his image when he went to visit those affected by the floods.

He wore a pair of cheap wellington boots last year as he apparently only had a pair of green Hunter wellies.

The Prime Minister was worried that people would think he was posh.

He was also spotted in York in December in a pair of £13 value 'Countrywide' wellies.

Cameron instead wore a pair of £12.99 ASDA boots and was mocked because they looked brand new.

Socialist Sturgeon has no such worries, evidently, and looked very smart in her £309 outerwear.

Nicola Sturgeon has replied, and clarified that her jacket was actually a Christmas present.

We don't have word yet on her (very nice) boots.

I mean loving hell. Other than "If Socialist how have nice things" crap how are they calling Nicola Sturgeon a socialist?

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ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
remember this? Danczuk got paid five grand for it apparently

ShaneMacGowansTeeth fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Jan 9, 2016

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Would be a good thread title.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

remember this? Danczuk got paid five grand for it apparently



Umm he broke that silence on BBC Newsnight last week scoop harder Sun.

StoneOfShame
Jul 28, 2013

This is the best kitchen ever.

Astroclassicist posted:

Wait, you work at the PoW?

Yup, certainly do.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
I'm drunk, horny and alone all the time and I've never propositioned a 17 year old.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

thespaceinvader posted:

Umm he broke that silence on BBC Newsnight last week scoop harder Sun.

yeah, it's an old screenshot from last weekend which I never noticed when I posted it. I added in the link to the article in my original (poo poo) post

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Gonzo McFee posted:

I'm drunk, horny and alone all the time and I've never propositioned a 17 year old.

not even when you were 17?

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

not even when you were 17?

I didn't start drinking until I was 18.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Gonzo McFee posted:

I didn't start drinking until I was 18.

but.... you're Scottish?

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

LemonDrizzle posted:

I think the way to deal with this is to just attack Osborne's perceived competence by making him out to be penny-wise but pound-foolish. "He cuts a £200m flood defence project in Leeds and next year the town suffers £whatever in flood damage, he cuts social care budgets by £x and then hospitals costs increase by £n*x." Don't go on about how the cuts are harmful, talk about how they're stupid and actually making the country's financial position worse. You could easily tie that into "he's missed every target he's set himself, he's borrowed more money than every Labour government put together" etc. etc.

I think that messaging could work in 1997 - when the impact of intra-Tory mudslinging was at an all-time high - but it would be hard to reconcile today with an attempt to rally with the NHS junior doctor's strike or, for that matter, any attempt to corral MPs into shutting up about how austerity is harmful or how whole-system reform is necessary. In particular the MP for Islington North.

Leeds-floods-wise, well...

quote:

Jeremy Corbyn: In 2011, a £190 million flood defence project on the River Aire in Leeds was cancelled by the Government on cost grounds. One thousand homes and businesses in Leeds were flooded in recent weeks, and the Government are still committed only to a scaled-down version of the project, worth a fraction of its total cost. This from a Prime Minister who claimed that “money was no object” when it came to flood relief. When he or his Secretary of State meets the Leeds MPs and Judith Blake, the leader of Leeds City Council, in the near future, will he guarantee that the full scheme will go ahead to protect Leeds from future flooding?

The Prime Minister: First of all, let me make one point before answering the right hon. Gentleman’s points in detail. It is worth putting on record before we get on to flood defence investment—and I will cover it in full—that this was the wettest December for over 100 years, and actually in Leeds and in Yorkshire it was the wettest December ever on record. That is why rivers in Yorkshire flooded, including the Aire in Leeds, which was a metre higher than it has ever been in its history.

No flood defence schemes have been cancelled since 2010. The investment in flood defences was £1.5 billion in the last Labour Government, £1.7 billion in the Government I led as a coalition Government, and will be over £2 billion in this Parliament. It has gone up and up and up. It has gone up because we run an economy where we are able to invest in the things that our country needs. And one more point—let us not forget this. We inherited the Darling plan for our economy. That was a plan for a 50% cut in capital spending, and DEFRA was not a protected Department. We protected that flood spending and we increased it—something Labour would not have done.

Jeremy Corbyn: Of course the rainfall was excessive, of course the river levels were high, but the Prime Minister has still not answered the question on the Leeds flood protection scheme—I will give him an opportunity to do so in a moment. In 2014, Cumbria County Council applied for funding for new schemes in Keswick and Kendal—both were turned down and both areas flooded again in the last few weeks. Does the Prime Minister believe that turning down those schemes was also a mistake?

The Prime Minister: We are spending more on flood defence schemes and stacking up a whole series of schemes that we will spend more on. Let me make this point to the right hon. Gentleman: if he is going to spend £10 billion on renationalising our railways, where is he going to find the money for flood defences? The idea that this individual would be faster in responding to floods when it takes him three days to carry out a reshuffle is frankly laughable. Since I walked into the Chamber this morning, his shadow Foreign Minister resigned and his shadow Defence Minister resigned—he could not run anything.

Jeremy Corbyn: It is very strange that when I have asked a question about Leeds flood defence, then on Cumbria flood defence, the Prime Minister still seems unable to answer. Can he now tell us if there is going to be funding for those schemes?

In October, Professor Colin Mellors, the head of the Yorkshire regional flood and coastal committee, warned the Government about funding cuts leading to flood defences in Yorkshire being “formally discontinued” in the future. Would that also be a mistake? Can the Prime Minister now tell us: is he going to reverse the cuts in the defences that have taken place to make sure that those cities and areas are protected in the next round of floods which will no doubt come?

The Prime Minister: As I have told the right hon. Gentleman, we have increased and continued to increase the spending on flood defences. We are spending more in this Parliament, and for the first time it is a six-year spending perspective, which is £2.3 billion extra on flood defences—money that would not be available if we trashed the economy in the way that he proposes. Of course, after every incident of flooding, you go back and look at what you have spent and what you have built, you look at what you are planning to spend and what you are planning to build, and you see what more can be done. The head of the Environment Agency was absolutely clear that he had the money necessary to take the action that was necessary, but we can only do that with a strong economy—an economy that is growing, where more people are in work and more people are paying taxes. We have got the strength to solve this problem of floods, and we will do it in a proper way.

Jeremy Corbyn: The Prime Minister has not answered on Leeds, he has not answered on Cumbria, and he has not answered on the warning from Professor Mellors.

Like the Prime Minister, last week I met people in York who had been affected by flooding. I met a young couple, Chris and Victoria, whose home had been flooded over Christmas—[Interruption.] It was not very funny for them. This young couple lost many of their possessions, including photos and children’s toys and school work, and they have the foul stench of floodwater in their home, as have many families all over this country. They are asking all of us wholly legitimate questions. Why was the insufficient pump capacity at the Foss barrier—which, again, we were alerted to in 2013 by a Government report—not dealt with or the pumps upgraded? That meant that people in York were flooded and their possessions and homes severely damaged. Those people want answers from all of us, and in particular from the Prime Minister.

The Prime Minister: I have the greatest sympathy with anyone who has been flooded. We have to do what it takes to get people and communities back on their feet. That is why we have put record sums in more quickly to help communities in Cumbria, in Lancashire and now in Yorkshire. We will continue to do that. Specifically on the question of the Foss pumps, that was about to be tendered for extra investment, and that investment will now go ahead, because the money is there.

I say to the right hon. Gentleman that we are putting in the money and doing so more quickly, and the military got involved more quickly. For that couple who got flooded, we are also doing something that previous Governments have talked about but never achieved, which is to have an insurance scheme—Flood Re—so that every single household can get insured. That has not been done before.

Have lessons been learned? Yes, they have. Are there more lessons to learn? There always are, but frankly we do not need a lecture from Malta from the right hon. Gentleman.

Jeremy Corbyn: The reality is that flood defence scheme after flood defence scheme has been cancelled, postponed or cut, many more homes have been flooded and too many lessons have been ignored. Why cannot the Prime Minister support our calls for a co-ordinated, cross-party approach to flooding that looks at everything, including upland management, making people’s homes more flood resilient, and more properly funded protection schemes?

Does the Prime Minister at least agree that the fire and rescue service, which has done such a great job over the past few weeks in all parts of this country, should now be given a statutory duty to deal with floods, to help us through any crisis that might occur in the future?

The Prime Minister: I think the best I can say is that when the right hon. Gentleman has worked out how to co-ordinate his own party, perhaps he could come and have a word with me.

On the issue of a statutory duty, everybody knows what they have to do when floods take place. That is why there was such a magnificent response from the emergency services, the fire services and the emergency rescue services. They have our backing to do the vital work. We will go on investing in flood defences. We will increase the money we are spending on flood defences, because we have got a strong economy and a strong country that can back the action that is needed.

I don't know. Does Corbyn have some deep-seated moral objection to the idea of narrow cost-benefit analyses (which the government of the day might, therefore, actually be able to fail), rather than hypothetical bipartisan holistic approaches that - by the nature of all nebulous, holistic solutions - concede the judgment of its success to the incumbent government?

ronya fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jan 9, 2016

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

but.... you're Scottish?

I'm a good boy.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I have to move in the next few weeks and I'm currently experiencing the joy of the British rental market. The place I saw today was utter trash - the place was dank and filthy, all the rooms bar the kitchen and bathroom had been converted into bedrooms so everyone was shut up tight in their rooms and the tenant who initially answered the door seemed haunted and wary, and the room on offer wasn't even the one shown in the advert. loving Christ.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

Gonzo McFee posted:

loving Hell.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...er-wellies.html


I mean loving hell. Other than "If Socialist how have nice things" crap how are they calling Nicola Sturgeon a socialist?

Barbour is based in South Shields so I'm taking this as tacit admittance that in the event of Scotland breaking free, everything north of the Wear is going with it. :colbert:

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Gonzo McFee posted:

I'm drunk, horny and alone all the time and I've never propositioned a 17 year old.

Maybe that's why you're not a Labour MP yet :colbert:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Gonzo McFee posted:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...er-wellies.html


I mean loving hell. Other than "If Socialist how have nice things" crap how are they calling Nicola Sturgeon a socialist?
If you're left of the Tories you're a socialist. If you're left of the Tories and don't live in poverty you're a champagne socialist. If you have a flat screen television or a refrigerator you don't live in poverty. Simple.

Gonzo McFee posted:

I'm drunk, horny and alone all the time and I've never propositioned a 17 year old.
Yeah I was going to say. Danczuk manages to be a worse person than most goons.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Gonzo McFee posted:

I'm drunk, horny and alone all the time and I've never propositioned a 17 year old.

Yes but you're not an MP.

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!
The problem was the age of the girl. If she'd been any older, no one would have cared. And if she'd been any younger, he could have been knighted.

Pork Pie Hat
Apr 27, 2011

LemonDrizzle posted:

Osborne's perceived competence by making him out to be penny-wise

You called?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Gonzo McFee posted:

loving Hell.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...er-wellies.html


I mean loving hell. Other than "If Socialist how have nice things" crap how are they calling Nicola Sturgeon a socialist?

Do they have a point? Are they saying that Cameron isn't a rich posh prick because he bought some cheap asda wellies? Is that how it works? Your class is based on your last purchase? Are we supposed to be surprised that the leader of the Scottish government can afford to spend £300 on clothes?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
That's what happens when you start analyzing everything through a consumerist lens. Your class is based on the things you buy. Not your social circles or the power you wield or your relationship to the means of production.

HorseLord
Aug 26, 2014

ThomasPaine posted:

Today I abandoned ship from the Greens to Labour. I feel dirty. Horribly dirty. In my experience the Greens have some excellent people (like Caroline Lucas and Patrick Harvie) but their membership is stiflingly middle class and, dare I say it, full of liberals. I just couldn't stomach the constant focus on identity politics and SJW stuff

brocialist spotted

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

HorseLord posted:

brocialist spotted

From any other poster, this might be a decent point to make. From a literal Stalinist, not so much. Do we need to bring up Beria again?

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Regarde Aduck posted:

Do they have a point? Are they saying that Cameron isn't a rich posh prick because he bought some cheap asda wellies? Is that how it works? Your class is based on your last purchase? Are we supposed to be surprised that the leader of the Scottish government can afford to spend £300 on clothes?

Indeed. Clothes which probably actually belong to her. As opposed to some aide running to the nearest supermarket to buy something that will go straight in the trash after the photoshoot.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Darth Walrus posted:

From any other poster, this might be a decent point to make. From a literal Stalinist, not so much. Do we need to bring up Beria again?

How so? Social justice is very important but meaningless when each element is discussed in isolation by those it applies to without reference to the broader class issues they should all be incorporated into. It's liberal bullshit and it's a loving corrupting cancer endemic to ostensibly left wing groups.

That said I don't really know what you mean by brocialist so whatever maybe I'm ranting for no reason

il_cornuto
Oct 10, 2004

It's good that she's got a nice jacket and a good pair of wellies, those are good things to invest in especially if you live somewhere cold and wet.

David Cameron doesn't seem to realise that cheap wellies will wear out quicker and leave you with wet feet, someone should warn him about false economy.

HorseLord
Aug 26, 2014

ThomasPaine posted:

How so? Social justice is very important but meaningless when each element is discussed in isolation by those it applies to without reference to the broader class issues they should all be incorporated into. It's liberal bullshit and it's a loving corrupting cancer endemic to ostensibly left wing groups.

That said I don't really know what you mean by brocialist so whatever maybe I'm ranting for no reason

Anyone who uses the derisive term "SJW" is a reactionary rear end in a top hat. It's the millennial version of complaining about political correctness.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

ThomasPaine posted:

How so? Social justice is very important but meaningless when each element is discussed in isolation by those it applies to without reference to the broader class issues they should all be incorporated into. It's liberal bullshit and it's a loving corrupting cancer endemic to ostensibly left wing groups.

That said I don't really know what you mean by brocialist so whatever maybe I'm ranting for no reason

There's a certain tendency in the left (hi, SWP!) for a bunch of white dudes to take over and start shunting aside minority perspectives as a distraction from The Cause. Unironically using the term 'SJW' is a bit of a red flag (and not the good kind of red flag :ussr:), and while it may well not be what you meant, it creates the impression that you're grumpy about your party having to listen to all those uppity gays/blacks/women rather than focusing on the stuff that affects you as well.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

But it is true that a distressing number of people concerned with social liberty are grossly uninterested in its economic basis.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

HorseLord posted:

Anyone who uses the derisive term "SJW" is a reactionary rear end in a top hat. It's the millennial version of complaining about political correctness.

That's fair, it was a bad choice of word and I used it purely as an abbreviation because I didn't want to write a long post because I'm on my phone. It does have slightly worrying connotations now that I think about it.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

OwlFancier posted:

But it is true that a distressing number of people concerned with social liberty are grossly uninterested in its economic basis.

To be fair, a distressing number of people concerned with any particular problem at all are grossly uninterested in its economic basis. if we hang all the crims then there'll not be crimes any more, etc etc.

Though I imagine we're all actually agreeing that considering equality issues without considering wider economic issues is bad and discussing economic issues without considering equality issues is also bad. The latter is what I generally take "brocialist" to mean, though given it's been floating around the internet for a while it's probably in the process of mutating into something meaningless and terrible, as does pretty much any word/concept/meme the internet gets its hands on.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

il_cornuto posted:

David Cameron doesn't seem to realise that cheap wellies will wear out quicker and leave you with wet feet, someone should warn him about false economy.
Take wellies, for example. A really good pair of Hunter wellies cost £130. But an affordable pair of wellies, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the soles gave out, cost about £12.99. Those were the kind of wellies Cameron always bought, and wore until the cameras went away.

But the thing was that good wellies lasted for years and years. A Scot who could afford £130 had a pair of wellies that'd still be keeping her feet dry in ten years' time, while the Tory who only bought cheap wellies would have spent a £259.80 on wellies in the same time and would still have his dick in a pig when nobody was looking.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Wellies' theory.

Angepain posted:

To be fair, a distressing number of people concerned with any particular problem at all are grossly uninterested in its economic basis. if we hang all the crims then there'll not be crimes any more, etc etc.
Like every tabloid campaign to 'ban this filth'.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Jan 9, 2016

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
look if we just don't spend any money on anything then we'll have lots of money to buy whatever wellies we want in the future. most of you will have to go without shoes for a few years but it'll be worth it. Especially as many of you will get cripping foot injuries, and then you won't even need shoes at all. think of the savings.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Pissflaps posted:

Would be a good thread title.

UKMT: "I Was Drunk, Horny and Socialist"



WE ALL STRIVE DOWN HERE

Thanks for the nightmares tonight.

Astroclassicist
Aug 21, 2015

StoneOfShame posted:

Yup, certainly do.

It's undergone quite the transformation in the time I've been drinking there. When we first started going when my friends were all definitely 18 5 years ago, it was still just a pretty quiet local. Amazing what it's become now.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Gonzo McFee posted:

I'm drunk, horny and alone all the time and I've never propositioned a 17 year old.
sorry about your boring adolescence

it would've been ok to proposition 17 year olds still when you started drinking at 18

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

I think poor Simon is still horny and alone

quote:

Sophena Houlihan contacted Mr Danczuk on Saturday to say she wanted to apologise and four days later he responded and tried to persuade her to meet for a coffee by saying it would “actually be funny” and told her she would be paid a fee if she agreed to be photographed by an agency alongside him.

...

Ms Houlihan contacted Mr Danczuk on Saturday – two days after reports of the sexual exchanges were exposed – to say: “I just wanna say sorry.”

Four days later Mr Danczuk replied saying: “Hi Sophena! I’m sorry too. Hope it hasn’t caused too much upset.”

He then explained to her that a media agency was offering to organise a rendezvous for the two of him.

Mr Danczuk wrote: “Come on, let’s do this first meeting . . . it’ll actually be funny!”

He added: “It sounds like a good idea to me, think they’ll pay you a fee etc take photos.”
I mean, he's right. It is pretty funny. :v:

StoneOfShame
Jul 28, 2013

This is the best kitchen ever.

Astroclassicist posted:

It's undergone quite the transformation in the time I've been drinking there. When we first started going when my friends were all definitely 18 5 years ago, it was still just a pretty quiet local. Amazing what it's become now.

Aye, when I first drank there it was just a group of old blokes in front and a few broken tables out the back now its probably the most successful pub in the city. I just sell the cigars there, its not a bad gig get to smoke and drink all night.

Renfield
Feb 29, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

Take wellies, for example. A really good pair of Hunter wellies cost £130. But an affordable pair of wellies, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the soles gave out, cost about £12.99. Those were the kind of wellies Cameron always bought, and wore until the cameras went away.

But the thing was that good wellies lasted for years and years. A Scot who could afford £130 had a pair of wellies that'd still be keeping her feet dry in ten years' time, while the Tory who only bought cheap wellies would have spent a £259.80 on wellies in the same time and would still have his dick in a pig when nobody was looking.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Wellies' theory.



You beat me to it

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Biggus Dickus
May 18, 2005

Roadies know where to focus the spotlight.
Well this is embarrasing: Saudi arms sales "In breach of International Law"

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