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Uncle Boogeyman posted:It's more like Snowpiercer but vertical instead of horizontal You forget that goons don't understand allegory.
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LORD OF BUTT posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96EChBYVFhU I think I'm broken. I'd like to be interested in this but i rather just play gta or any FPS game
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Feb 13, 2016 01:52
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Don't worry it doesn't really do anything for me either. I never liked the original short, its not that I dislike the idea of a first person camera like that I just don't think its being done in an interesting way
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Feb 13, 2016 02:15
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To be honest, I'm not interested in POV movies either. Maybe they could do a thing where the POV doesn't see like somebody hiding a murder weapon or something, but it still wouldn't be enough... Maybe if like a unanimous chorus of critis rose up and covered the movie with accolades? Otherwise, it just seems like an early 3D movie... Gimmick for gimmick's sake.
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Feb 13, 2016 02:19
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The original short was absolutely wretched, and the footage in the trailer that comes from it is still wretched, but some of the newer footage at least looks like it's trying to have an aesthetic, so that's progress
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Feb 13, 2016 03:27
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Yeah I was about to make a similar reply earlier but then I was like eh whatever floats your boats. Really I don't get anything from this stuff though, it's like watching someone play an FPS on YouTube (which is a big thing among a certain populace). Like I don't mind shakey cam POV stuff in theory when it's Cloverfield style just holding a camera, that can get gimmicky but it has been used in good movies...this straight POV cam poo poo with hands and all just feels gimmicky and boring for me though. It's somehow even worse that it's an action spectacle, it's just like watching a video of BADASS CoD KILLZ or something. Oh wait that reminds me of Enter the Void actually, was the POV like that in EtV or did you not get the arms/FPS cam? I forget. That was effective. I'm sure this technique could be cool and effective if used selectively and in other genres. Like I could see a good horror movie maybe, I just find all the gunplay and action super tedious like this for some reason.
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Feb 13, 2016 03:59
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It basically reminds me of the basic advice you hear with joke writing or any sort of idea, where you just don't go with the first thing that pops into your head. And Hardcore, the short, just felt like doing all the first things that pop into your head. The full movie seems like they are going to do some other stuff but I dunno, I think its good its coming out though because it might let the person who has a really crazy idea for a POV movie to actually get their poo poo done or whatever.
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Feb 13, 2016 04:03
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Oh wait that reminds me of Enter the Void actually, was the POV like that in EtV or did you not get the arms/FPS cam? I forget. That was effective. I'm sure this technique could be cool and effective if used selectively and in other genres. Like I could see a good horror movie maybe, I just find all the gunplay and action super tedious like this for some reason. I haven't watched Enter the Void in a while, but yeah, you saw the guy's arms and hands, but IIRC, it wasn't shot with a fisheye lens like Hardcore Henry appears to have been and there were several sequences shot over-the-shoulder of the main character.
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Vagabundo posted:I haven't watched Enter the Void in a while, but yeah, you saw the guy's arms and hands, but IIRC, it wasn't shot with a fisheye lens like Hardcore Henry appears to have been and there were several sequences shot over-the-shoulder of the main character. The first person stuff only lasts for the first 15 minutes of Enter the Void really. After he dies you're technically still in first person, but the first person of a disembodied spirit, which means the camera can go wherever the hell it wants. The lenses used were extremely wide, but not lovely gopro fisheyes.
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Feb 13, 2016 06:28
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POV movies should have been made with the Oculus Rift in mind. Does porn have to do all the thinking for you, indie filmmakers?
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GrandpaPants posted:POV movies should have been made with the Oculus Rift in mind. Does porn have to do all the thinking for you, indie filmmakers? Great idea in concept, really loving hard in practice. Imagine filming a scene that has to be playing out in full 360. Where do you put your lights? Oh...you can't. Where is your crew/director? Well they better all hide under the floor before you yell "action". How do you move your camera? If it's mounted on a person, then you have to commit to showing their hands/feet the entire movie. If not, you're pretty much hosed and it has to be some kind of remote control robot thing. This is why most Oculus movies you see are like 3 minute long demos, and of those, if they have moving cameras they're usually in fully CG animated movies.
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bullet3 posted:Great idea in concept, really loving hard in practice. Imagine filming a scene that has to be playing out in full 360. Actually, you film the whole thing with a 360 panoramic camera attached to a person's head or digitally add the hands and feet later. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQd41nbQM-U The big problem right now with filming in 360 video is that there's no real cues' to focus the audiences attention. It's like the inverse of doing stage directions for theater in the round. The traditional theater and video/film formatting of the "picture frame" limits the director to conduct everything on stage or on the screen, which has been made over the years to fit within the visual angle of a human. I don't have to rotate my head or turn around to get what's going on the screen, I can sit back and just let the visuals come into my eyeballs. With 360 video, there can be stuff happening behind your head that you can completely miss out on or your focus wanders and is pulled from the main action. Until we develop a language for how to control how we interpret 360 video, it's a novelty for now.
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A person wrote in to a podcast I listen to a couple of weeks ago talking about a 360 video they viewed with a vr kit. They said right now its too easy to hit a seam and have everything fall apart.
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muscles like this? posted:A person wrote in to a podcast I listen to a couple of weeks ago talking about a 360 video they viewed with a vr kit. They said right now its too easy to hit a seam and have everything fall apart. Sometimes you just read a thing and go "poo poo, it's really 2016 isn't it."
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Feb 13, 2016 12:39
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VHS2 had some good 1st person POV bits, mostly in the section that The Raid guy directed.
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So did Always Sunny this week.
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The point break remake should've done that for some shots.
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Feb 13, 2016 16:34
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Pft, Peep Show already did all this POV stuff.
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It seems like one of those things that works better as a trailer than an actual movie. Like there are only so many jokes you can make about "Its like a video game, get it?" and they pretty much landed all of them in trailer
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GrandpaPants posted:POV movies should have been made with the Oculus Rift in mind. Does porn have to do all the thinking for you, indie filmmakers? The director of Hardcore Henry actually did an AMA and one of the people asked him about that. They're working on it, they just wanted to get solid with regular POV stuff before they mess with 360 cameras. e: also, it doesn't seem to really be playing the FPS similarities as a joke? Honestly, the impression I'm getting is that it's like a Russian dash cam video and The Raid hosed and had a baby, and that's probably going to be loving insane. The stunt work in this movie just looks like the craziest poo poo since Road Warrior. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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Feb 13, 2016 21:54
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why does it need 360 movement to adapt to vr. why not just make it 3D
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scary ghost dog posted:why does it need 360 movement to adapt to vr. why not just make it 3D Be....Cause VR involves you freely moving your head around an environment?
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scary ghost dog posted:why does it need 360 movement to adapt to vr. why not just make it 3D how goddamn stupid are you?
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The Saddest Rhino posted:how goddamn stupid are you? No reason to be rude, he's simply raising the idea of using a vr headset as a 3d display. You should apologize for being so mean.
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Feb 14, 2016 04:24
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Since this is the post production thread, here's an interview with the editor of Deadpool: http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/13/10981366/deadpool-editing-julian-clarke-interview
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computer parts posted:She's doing the job, it's called negotiation. If an actress came in and said she wanted to be Mystique but not be blue, they wouldn't hire her for the reason that she doesn't want to do the job. To already be hired then say you won't do something is being egotistical and lovely. That she can get away with it means nothing, nor that ofc someone doesn't want to sit in makeup all day. Do the job and don't sign-up for more roles like it- it's called a learning lesson. Any other area of life, no one would have trouble calling the person who does that an unprofessional punk. PBS Newshour posted:who knew you have to earn being poo poo on, and here i thought it was just because you are a loser, but how can you be a loser when you only poo poo on those who earn it? Are you on drugs?
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Lady Naga posted:Be....Cause VR involves you freely moving your head around an environment?
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soapgish posted:If an actress came in and said she wanted to be Mystique but not be blue, they wouldn't hire her for the reason that she doesn't want to do the job. To already be hired then say you won't do something is being egotistical and lovely. That she can get away with it means nothing, nor that ofc someone doesn't want to sit in makeup all day. Do the job and don't sign-up for more roles like it- it's called a learning lesson. Any other area of life, no one would have trouble calling the person who does that an unprofessional punk. Haha, really? Other actors literally have groups of handpicked writers come in to alter scripts they sign onto, no one calls them unprofessional punks.
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soapgish posted:If an actress came in and said she wanted to be Mystique but not be blue, they wouldn't hire her for the reason that she doesn't want to do the job. To already be hired then say you won't do something is being egotistical and lovely. That she can get away with it means nothing, nor that ofc someone doesn't want to sit in makeup all day. Do the job and don't sign-up for more roles like it- it's called a learning lesson. Any other area of life, no one would have trouble calling the person who does that an unprofessional punk. Did Jennifer Lawrence steal your lunch money as a kid or something?
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A Buttery Pastry posted:But there's no inherent reason that using the Oculus Rift means having to create a full 360 degree environment. It might be what it was designed for, but that doesn't mean you couldn't use it simply for the 3D effect. I guess if you expect your audience to never move their necks an inch and make sure they're okay with strapping a giant hunk of plastic to their face instead of just wearing thick-rimmed glasses.
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Lady Naga posted:I guess if you expect your audience to never move their necks an inch and make sure they're okay with strapping a giant hunk of plastic to their face instead of just wearing thick-rimmed glasses. Wtf r u saying? If they're wearing VR headsets they're wearing VR headsets. It's not like they can't move their necks, it just wouldn't do anything? Ur arguing a completely different point too which is that VR Headsets used exclusively to see movies in theaters in 3d wouldn't work because people use glasses, to which my response is duhhhhhhhhhhhh
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soapgish posted:If an actress came in and said she wanted to be Mystique but not be blue, they wouldn't hire her for the reason that she doesn't want to do the job. To already be hired then say you won't do something is being egotistical and lovely. That she can get away with it means nothing, nor that ofc someone doesn't want to sit in makeup all day. Do the job and don't sign-up for more roles like it- it's called a learning lesson. Any other area of life, no one would have trouble calling the person who does that an unprofessional punk. What the gently caress is wrong with you
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The final BvS trailer got me hype as hell, especially since we finally heard a line of dialogue from Gal Gadot  Had some free time over the weekend so I cut a trailer together for the solo Wonder Woman movie because I'm an overly excited nerd. Literally finished it 10 minutes ago. Now I can sleep, lmao.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24AAbBosQ0s
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computer parts posted:Haha, really? Other actors literally have groups of handpicked writers come in to alter scripts they sign onto, no one calls them unprofessional punks. Industry. If you did that at your job, how would it go over? Not at all. That there's a reasonable expectation these things occur in Hollywood is moot. Again, what one can get away with is meaningless. No other field of work would tolerate that behavior. Apparently a Sisyphean concept to divorce actual life from the movie industry, holy poo poo. The Saddest Rhino posted:What the gently caress is wrong with you People respect me and know my word is a guarantee, challenges you'll never face. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nah I am pretty sure this is a thing you can find outside of Hollywood.
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soapgish posted:Industry. If you did that at your job, how would it go over? Not at all. That there's a reasonable expectation these things occur in Hollywood is moot. Again, what one can get away with is meaningless. No other field of work would tolerate that behavior. In literally every other industry, the reasonable expectation is that key figures in an organization get to set their own terms within limits.
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Feb 14, 2016 13:28
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Hello I am an unprofessional punk because I have these skills and a noteworthy person and there are aspects of a job I don't like and I am asking not to do them.
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soapgish posted:If an actress came in and said she wanted to be Mystique but not be blue, they wouldn't hire her for the reason that she doesn't want to do the job. To already be hired then say you won't do something is being egotistical and lovely. That she can get away with it means nothing, nor that ofc someone doesn't want to sit in makeup all day. Do the job and don't sign-up for more roles like it- it's called a learning lesson. Any other area of life, no one would have trouble calling the person who does that an unprofessional punk. I would agree, except for two things: 1) It's already been established repeatedly in both First Class and Days of Future Past that Mystique is not yet comfortable with her natural appearance. Both Charles and Erik think she should be, but she isn't. 2) Jennifer Lawrence doesn't want to do the make-up because it's causing serious irritation to her skin, not because she can't be arsed to sit in a chair. It's why they switched from full body make-up to a bodysuit for DOFP.
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She did the whole movie in blue, though. Then when more movies came along they were willing to negotiate instead of firing and replacing her. I'm not sure why you insist the poor company is a helpless victim here.
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soapgish posted:People respect me and know my word is a guarantee, challenges you'll never face. you literally know nothing about me and are already making snap judgments against my person. what does that say about you? The Saddest Rhino fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Feb 14, 2016 |
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